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6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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my dad has an ar15 that i could put a 6.8 upper on. what about the 22-250. i just want a low recoiling rifle that will put deer down for a child. i have shot a couple of 243's that had some good amount of recoil for a 9 year old.
who has the best price on the 6.8. it seems like a mild version of a 257 roberts. would it recoil like a 243?
any info - thanks
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 02:18 AM
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In an AR non of those should be an issue with recoil!
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 02:25 AM
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Just sold a 6.8 and recoil was very mild. Great round to start a kid on.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 03:49 AM
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my dad has an ar15 that i could put a 6.8 upper on. what about the 22-250. i just want a low recoiling rifle that will put deer down for a child. i have shot a couple of 243's that had some good amount of recoil for a 9 year old.
who has the best price on the 6.8. it seems like a mild version of a 257 roberts. would it recoil like a 243?
any info - thanks
The 6.8 recoils about the same as a .243, though an AR eats up some of the recoil. The 22-250 would recoil even less & with a good bullet (TSX or Partition), put in the right place it will hammer any deer walking. The ARs usually have shorter barrels and/or a flash hider/brake, which may be a lot louder. That can scare a kid, sometimes. A 22-250 usually will have a longer barrel & will be quieter for the shooter, as well as be very low recoil.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 04:48 AM
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I'm actually about to build a 6.8 upper.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 11:45 AM
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I can hardly tell the difference in recoil from my 6.8spc and 5.56. Slightly more shoulder push back and a little longer to get back on target with the 6.8.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 12:31 PM
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i would get a good bolt action .22-250.
i have a rem 700 that came with they fance recoil pad and the recoil is non existent. a .243 is mild but does have more recoil. I've killed chingo's of deer with a .22-250
my ar, although the don't kick, are loud and the triggers arn't great unless its a target model.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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I'm a huge fan of the .243. My Savage has very, very little recoil.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 01:10 PM
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have you put the 22-250 behind the shoulder? i noticed you can get barnes and nosler partition in the 22-250. i am sure its all about knowing the limits.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 02:14 PM
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they all work and I have a lot of experience with all calibers
My dad has since 1966 used a 22-250 with 63g softpoints and has killed a LOT of deer with it, big south Texas deer
I hadn't shot it in a while but worked up loads for it last year for him as he didn't have his reloading gear anymore no recoil hardly at all
I also have an old Sako in 243 that I gave my son when he was 10 hardly any recoil and I have killed deer out to 350 yards with it..
I have been hunting a lot with a 6.8 AR the last few years
all are frankly equally effective on Texas deer and hogs
the nice thing about the 6.8 and an AR is that you can have one gun with an adjustable rear stock to fit the whole family
A decent 6.8 upper will cost about the same as a decent bolt action..
Can't go wrong with any of them really
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 02:27 PM
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I have a 6.8 and my son has a 243 and theres not any noticable difference in loudness. Should be wearing hearing protection anyway so it shouldnt matter. My son is 8 and and he shoots the 6.8 with no problems and my little girl is about to get started on it. Its a good gun with very low recoil. Easily adjustable for differnet shooters. A lot of bullet choices for all game.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 02:54 PM
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appreciate all the info
what 6.8 upper should i look into buying.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 03:28 PM
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All I will say is I own a Stag and like it. Some people on here think the upper has to be some outrageous cost or its no good. The most popular mid range uppers are the Bushmaster,DPMS,Stag,RRA,Spikes. And then the upper range are the noveske,ar performance,wilson combat and I cant think of any others.Oh and get ready for the "I own this gun and that makes it better than everything else" responses.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 03:40 PM
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 03:58 PM
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243 or 22-250 with good bullets Partitions, TSX, or TTSX
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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Oh and get ready for the "I own this gun and that makes it better than everything else" responses. what? gun guys being highly opinionated ? ha! I was telling that to someone a few moments ago... "I like X and everything else is crap and here's why"
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/30/10 07:37 PM
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Deer should not be hunted with a .22 caliber bullet. There I said it. Hate me if you want to, I'll still own what I said. .243 or larger for deer.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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07/31/10 01:52 PM
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Deer should not be hunted with a .22 caliber bullet. There I said it. Hate me if you want to, I'll still own what I said. .243 or larger for deer. There are thousands with experience and proof who disagree with that blanket statement. No hate, at all, just an honest difference of opinion. Especially now with the quality bullets available, it's even more untrue. Put a good bullet in the right spot & get a knife. It's only as tough as you make it, or think it is.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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The 6.8 built on an AR platform is just pain fun.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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08/01/10 01:28 AM
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Deer should not be hunted with a .22 caliber bullet. There I said it. Hate me if you want to, I'll still own what I said. .243 or larger for deer. How many people do you know that have used a 22-250 on a deer and only wounded it? I have never, ever heard from anyone that has used a 22-250 and had a deer that wasnt dead.
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Deer should not be hunted with a .22 caliber bullet. There I said it. Hate me if you want to, I'll still own what I said. .243 or larger for deer. How many people do you know that have used a 22-250 on a deer and only wounded it? I have never, ever heard from anyone that has used a 22-250 and had a deer that wasnt dead. Yeah, it may be dead, but 100-300 yards from where you shot it. It may jump fences, find some brush, and die a slow death. Not very ethical in my mind, but my opinion is like a butt hole, every one has one. If you are a grown man, there is no reason for you to be shooting a .22-250 for deer. Any man should be able to take the recoil of at least a .243. Just more ethical in my mind and is fair to the animal. .22-250 is good for varmints, but not deer, in my opinion. Too small of a bullet and shooting to fast for a fair, ethical kill shot...Now all the .22-250, shot placement people on here go ahead and ridicule me for what I just said. It is going to happen, so have at it.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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Deer should not be hunted with a .22 caliber bullet. There I said it. Hate me if you want to, I'll still own what I said. .243 or larger for deer. How many people do you know that have used a 22-250 on a deer and only wounded it? I have never, ever heard from anyone that has used a 22-250 and had a deer that wasnt dead. Yeah, it may be dead, but 100-300 yards from where you shot it. It may jump fences, find some brush, and die a slow death. Not very ethical in my mind, but my opinion is like a butt hole, every one has one. If you are a grown man, there is no reason for you to be shooting a .22-250 for deer. Any man should be able to take the recoil of at least a .243. Just more ethical in my mind and is fair to the animal. .22-250 is good for varmints, but not deer, in my opinion. Too small of a bullet and shooting to fast for a fair, ethical kill shot...Now all the .22-250, shot placement people on here go ahead and ridicule me for what I just said. It is going to happen, so have at it. with varmint bullets, I would agree with you, unless your taking head or neck shots. but with a partition or a barnes, then no, those bullets are deadly when launched from a .22-250. horace gore kills butt-loads of deer with a .224 tth, which shoots a .22 caliber bullet, usually a TSX, at really high velocities. I will agree, if you go down and buy a box of remmy softpoints and go shoot a deer in the shoulder, your going to be dissapointed. with a .22 caliber(only calibers i would use is the .22-250 and .220 swift regardless of bullet) bullet design and shot placement are critical.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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08/02/10 07:38 AM
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why dont ya just use the .223 or 5.56?
this aint the wild west you cant clean up the streets with a gun, but sometimes it is needed..... got papers?
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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Deer should not be hunted with a .22 caliber bullet. There I said it. Hate me if you want to, I'll still own what I said. .243 or larger for deer. How many people do you know that have used a 22-250 on a deer and only wounded it? I have never, ever heard from anyone that has used a 22-250 and had a deer that wasnt dead. Yeah, it may be dead, but 100-300 yards from where you shot it. It may jump fences, find some brush, and die a slow death. Not very ethical in my mind, but my opinion is like a butt hole, every one has one. If you are a grown man, there is no reason for you to be shooting a .22-250 for deer. Any man should be able to take the recoil of at least a .243. Just more ethical in my mind and is fair to the animal. .22-250 is good for varmints, but not deer, in my opinion. Too small of a bullet and shooting to fast for a fair, ethical kill shot...Now all the .22-250, shot placement people on here go ahead and ridicule me for what I just said. It is going to happen, so have at it. That's exactly how I feel about it. Oh, and the .223/ 5.56mm would be an even worse choice for deer than the .22-250.
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Re: 6.8 spc or .243 or .22-250 for deer
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Deer should not be hunted with a .22 caliber bullet. There I said it. Hate me if you want to, I'll still own what I said. .243 or larger for deer. How many people do you know that have used a 22-250 on a deer and only wounded it? I have never, ever heard from anyone that has used a 22-250 and had a deer that wasnt dead. Yeah, it may be dead, but 100-300 yards from where you shot it. It may jump fences, find some brush, and die a slow death. Not very ethical in my mind, but my opinion is like a butt hole, every one has one. If you are a grown man, there is no reason for you to be shooting a .22-250 for deer. Any man should be able to take the recoil of at least a .243. Just more ethical in my mind and is fair to the animal. .22-250 is good for varmints, but not deer, in my opinion. Too small of a bullet and shooting to fast for a fair, ethical kill shot...Now all the .22-250, shot placement people on here go ahead and ridicule me for what I just said. It is going to happen, so have at it. with varmint bullets, I would agree with you, unless your taking head or neck shots. but with a partition or a barnes, then no, those bullets are deadly when launched from a .22-250. horace gore kills butt-loads of deer with a .224 tth, which shoots a .22 caliber bullet, usually a TSX, at really high velocities. I will agree, if you go down and buy a box of remmy softpoints and go shoot a deer in the shoulder, your going to be dissapointed. with a .22 caliber(only calibers i would use is the .22-250 and .220 swift regardless of bullet) bullet design and shot placement are critical. x2
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