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chesapeake bay ret. #151537 02/26/07 04:38 AM
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what do yall know bout these dogs and whats yalls experiences??


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get rid of it and get a lab...lolol just kidding.i know very little..look up Mike Haffley,he is a pro trainer and specializes in chessies.they are very head strong and will test you


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If you are a first time trainer and want a Chesy for a gun dog, skip it and get a Lab. If you want a pro trained Chesy, go for it.


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Hold on now, I have a chessie pup that is 10 months old and I have not had any problems training her. It is all about how you socialize them. You do not want to have a chessie pup trained by a professional trainer because they are often "one man dogs" meaning that they will only perform for one person, Chessie's do better if they are trained by their owner. They are the most willing to please dogs out there I believe. There is a quote that i go by when training my chessie "you can ask a golden, tell a lab, but you must negotiate with a chessie". It's true in some aspects. But if you want a dog that loves to please, will drive hard and bust its butt for every bird than a chessie is the breed for you. PM if you have any questions, I know just about everything there is to know about these dogs.



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You do not want to have a chessie pup trained by a professional trainer because they are often "one man dogs" meaning that they will only perform for one person




This made me giggle.


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You do not want to have a chessie pup trained by a professional trainer because they are often "one man dogs" meaning that they will only perform for one person




This made me giggle.




I would have thought it would have made you laugh hysterically!!



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I'm not saying it cant be done; and people do have their chessies trained by a pro. with great success I might add. I think with a chessie you can create more of a bond because of their want to please you if you train them yourself, or in my case try to train them by yourself. I know your a pro trainer and yah that made you laugh cool, but for me and my experience with my chessie its about the ride not about the destination... most of the time. I think maybe in some ways thats true with all dogs.



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I think the exact oposite.I think if one was wanting a dog to train by himself he would get a lab.Most chessie are too much for the average amateur.Some I have seen have even had a little aggressive streak in them also.A chessie will sometime try and be the alpha instead of yourself. just my opinion.


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Howdy, I've had four or five Chessie's over the years, males and females. The best one I had was with me 24 hours a day, as we had a farm and he was always with me. He knew what I wanted and fulfilled it with gusto. He was headstrong and loved to hunt. He hunted pheasant and waterfowl like nothing you ever saw. He'd bring home a pheasant at least 3-4 days a week on the farm. He saw me load up the shotgun one time and I didn't take him - he ran away for a week. He was a bit agressive with other dogs, he was the boss. I've others, both males and females that were too agressive towards other dogs and people. I had one male that attacked my son, I shot him on the spot. I think they are very good, but make sure you know the histroy of the parents for several generations and that there's little agression, especailly if you have any kids. Good luck and have lots of patience.


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They are headstrong....as people noted here. And they are known for dog aggression. But the latter can be controled by getting a dog from good stock, strong obedience, and good socialization. Great dogs, but they are usually just a one person dog. You and only you. Labs and Goldens will usually listen to anyone and can be trained/hunted by several people, but Chessie's typically is just a one man dog. Expect a battle, he will test you and he will want to be alpha. Chessie's can make good family dogs, but don't expect the family to be treated the same as you. If you want a family dog and a hunting dog, go with a lab. I would say golden, but they aren't the easiest to train and hard to find a good one. I train Goldens, I say labs are easier and tolerate more pressure mistakes in training.


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But, if you go with Chessie. I suggest you find someone who has experience in them and ask them questions along your training or ask them to mentor you. The bulk is training is the same for all retriever breeds, but not all dogs are treated equal as same goes for breeds. In some situations I approach things differently with goldens as I would a lab or chessie.

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I havent ever been around one that was that headstrong i mean with my pup she knows when she is doing somthing wrong and she still does it sometime but she like pa said is with me all the time 24/7, you do have to be more patient with a chessie i will admit, the more socialization that you do with any pup the better off they will be.



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Please don�t take this wrong, but from what I have read here from Chessie owners and trainers, why would someone take a Chessie over a Lab? What are the benefits over a lab? I am just curious.


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Good question, why not a lab? I mean I can understand why someone would want a GSH over a lab, the advantage is they sometimes point better than a lab.



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I cant arguee with a man that cant figure out the differance between a GSH and a GSP



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I know what a GSP is, that is one of those radar things that tells you where you are.


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Good question, why not a lab? I mean I can understand why someone would want a GSH over a lab, the advantage is they sometimes point better than a lab.





Hmmm, I've heard them called GST's before (german short tail) but never a GSH. As far as the big difference in pointing ability, a GSP will insticively point wild game and a Lap-brador will instictively point his food bowl. Sometimes (read "most of the time") a LAP will get so hungry while hunting he'll mistake a bird for food rather than a bumper with feathers... hence a "point" happens.



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a LAP will get so hungry while hunting he'll mistake a bird for food rather than a bumper with feathers




thats true, I have seen it, although i think it was a chesapeake. I refuse to let my GSP around labs, he picks up to many bad habits



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a LAP will get so hungry while hunting he'll mistake a bird for food rather than a bumper with feathers... hence a "point" happens.




Excuse me, but I don�t see a food bowl in the pic below! What you can�t see in the picture though is the GSH pointing at the heater in the truck! I rest my case, thank you very much.




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yep I have one of those GSP's on my boat so I dont get lost on the lake at night.They do point real well.But why a chessie over lab.


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it appears that picture was just taken in mid stride... obviously there is a shorthair in front of him just out of the picture pointing a mob of ringnecks and that Lap is moving in for a good healthy A$$-sniff while the shorthair is occupied. Notice that straight tail... he's just walking!!!

here's what a "point" looks like




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Is he pointing at the boat dock...My handheld gsp takes batteries but it dont poop in the boat.


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Well, I got my first chessie by accident. there was a fella that was letting his dogs stretch their legs since he was traveling. We stopped and started talking to him and low and behold he had a pup in the car too. We bought him and the rest was history. If you look up their history, the chesapeak bay retrievers were originally bred for market hunters and they also needed guard dogs and protection, hence the aggression. The best one I had would not quit no matter what. He was not lazy and we never had a better guard dog. I got more hoping to find another like "Butch" but never did. Butch was known all over town, the pizza delivery guy especially didn't like him, cause ol Butch would take away his pizzas and bring 'em home and he was darn proud of himself. I have lots of funny stories about ole Butch.


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Notice that straight tail... he's just walking!!!



If you chopped off half the tail it would be strait!


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all in all there are some good chessies out there and the right one with the right person/trainer will turn out good.There are good dogs in every breed.Heck at a hunt test I have seen a standard poodle run and do better than alot of the labs and goldens.Looked kinda funny but did the work.


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