You get some florida strain bass, a large aquarium, feed heavy until one finally makes it to record, then move it to your pond, catch it, submit it. End up record holder but is it the same thing? High fence guys always put the argument forth that they are improving the herd, whose herd, I am a landowner, I can restrict access to my property, ie who hunts it or accesses it.I have never come to terms with restricting movement of game which belongs to the state. I am going to guess the whole deal got started with exotics, which I consider a different deal. (I would not shoot one out of a pen either) How do the deer end up on a high fenced property, especially a small one. Is it luck when you close the fence, are they drawn in with feed then gates are closed, Are they bought and stocked like cattle. If it is luck fine. If it is like a cattle deal the they are livestock, If you are drawing deer onto a property then restricting their ability to leave I take issue with that. Somebody tell me how you get a sustainable herd on a small high fenced property. They don't fly.

Nice try but that is a ridiculous analogy. Bass have the choice to hit your lure or not, whereas a HF deer has no escape and it will be shot no matter where it goes. You can keep justifying that your HF lease or day "shoot" is actually hunting, but the rest of us who grew up being taught how to hunt and find wild game know the difference.

"...a HF deer has no escape and it will be shot no matter where it goes."

That qualifies as the most ignorant comment ever posted on this forum.

that is some of the dumbest sh*t i have ever heard.

bass have a choice to hit the lure, but a high fence deer has no escape....i guess they are forced to come into shooting range of the blind whenever it is occupied by a hunter. i guess no deer ever dies of old age on a high fence place, no matter what the size, becuase they have no escape and will be shot no matter where it goes..never mind all the brush, trees and other inaccesable places they hide in.

it is obvious by your statement that you have done little to no deer hunting. if you can't provide an intellegent post stay off the forum and keep our topics uncluttered from ignorant bulls*t

some of you guys posts amaze me....how do you people function in today's society with the lack of common sense your portray by these posts.

We highfenced our ranch (1200) acres, back in 94. we estimated that we had around 50 deer on the place. we kept our harvest low, fed the crap outta them. 10 years later we have 300 deer.

In a nutshell, deer breed and if they don't get shot live and breed some more....this in turn makes for more deer!

This is day one stuff man

Yep.. keep on believing HF is actually hunting, and come home and show off your kill to your wife and kids. Little do they know it came from some 250 to 750 acre HF ranchette that 3/4 of place is covered in food plots, feeders, monitoring systems that track each deer all over the property.

another thing that amazes me is that a number of folks who cry foul over shooting a whitetail under a high fence line up to shoot these ferel sheep bought at auction on some "exotic ranch".

somehow thats okay but the former isn't

yep, i have a gps on every single deer, know there exact coordinates at any given moment.....come on now your being rediculous. btw only an 1/8 of our property is covered in food plots.....

anyway, its no secret that i hunt on several high fence properties....my wife could give a sh*t less.

Its unfortunate that a lot of the people on here complaining about high fences wish they were hunting a high fence ranch!!!

If people would hunt and manage properties that actually hold and "raise" deer and not hunt whatever jumps the fence from the neighbors a lot less high fences would be up. Sad to say but true.

Could't have said it better

You got that right...do we have an anti here on the board ???

I dont hunt HF I am not saying I wouldnt. But its legal and a person that owns land can do it within the law. When I was younger I guided on 55oo acre HF place. Its not the given you think it is. If you are so hec bent on controling the freedoms of others because your ego tells you that your a better hunter mr lowfence.Your just another commie democrat. MOve up north please.Or at least visit a northwest state site , like the chick from washington that was on this site a few weeks ago. She doesnt like the way texan low fence hunters have feeders and down grades that. You got the Lib mind set for sure.

They may have had a little too much free goverment alcohol celebrating pelosi and reids health care bill that was passed !!!

some of you guys posts amaze me....how do you people function in today's society with the lack of common sense your portray by these posts.

We highfenced our ranch (1200) acres, back in 94. we estimated that we had around 50 deer on the place. we kept our harvest low, fed the crap outta them. 10 years later we have 300 deer.

In a nutshell, deer breed and if they don't get shot live and breed some more....this in turn makes for more deer!





I think I said small property, meaning 300-400 acres, not 1200. I understand the biology. You would be suprised how well I function. You may call it what you want you are resticting movement of the animal. No different than raising cattle. You are limiting the animals access to other properties, it won't be hit by a car, no one else will shoot it. It will not be pushed from it's range by another buck. You are raising these deer the same as a steer. When it gets to a certain size you harvest, barring sickness or injury the outcome is not in doubt. And if you are running 300 deer on 1200 acres then they are livestock exactly.

As ignorant as I think this guy is for spouting all is baseless gibberish about high fences, blaming high fences solely on the hunting of low fence neighbors is silly too. There are lots of us that manage quite intensively, and reap the benefits without having to resort to high fence. No doubt it makes management easier, but it is just a tool and not the solution. You can manage and harvest top of the line deer without HF...

Your right rockin , my son hunts on low fence place . Its been managed for 13 yrs he killed a 204 gross this yr.

That's awesome, congrats to him.

you can manage deer without a high fence, but it does take substantial acreage and good neighbors.

never in any of my posts have I ever said that you can never grow big deer without a high fence....but it takes certain things that are pretty rare

Never mind...I admit that i grow deer, the same native deer that were on the property when we bought it, for the purpose of enjoyment through watching them grown and hopefully harvesting a big one now and then.

raising them imo requires things like medicating them, bottle feeding them, cubeing them to make them gentle, etc.

i do none of that.

anyway, you continue to hunt the way you please, and I'll continue to do things the way i've done it for the last 10 years. You may call it Raising deer, I call it management

Hey, if you guys like shooting captive deer and hanging it on your living room wall that is fine. Just be sure when your telling the story of "Bucky" to your friends and neighbors, be sure and explain to them it came from a completely enclosed property with no means of escape.

Like trying to teach a pig to sing...

your an idiot....go get yourself a mocha latte and a pedicure and stay off the forum

Tell Pelosi and PETA hello for us...

Think about what youve said. With no means of escape. Have you you ever hunted on a HF ranch or even visited one. I have seen helicoper surveys been way off there mark. I have seen animals that nobody thought were still living on the ranch.Granted theres small places under HF I wouldnt hunt if given the oppertunity . But Its someone elses right to do so. As americans and texans lets support that right. Please alot of men have been where the metal meets the meat so we can live where a mans land and hm are his to do within the rights granted to us. Lets all support and respect it.

Do you guys throw insults because you cannot defend your argument. A person is not an "idiot, involved in PETA, or a democrat" because they believe that shooting animals in a captive environment is a little short of sporting. Nobody supports canned hunting and there is a difference between the two but they are in the same ballpark. You are holding an animal in an enclosed area until harvest. In some cases these animals are bought and brought in. If that is your cup of tea enjoy, it is what it is.