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 Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/19/09 12:10 AM
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Absolutely, Positively, Never has been, or Never will be any such thing as an accidental discharge. Negligent Discharge is the only option. Either you are negligent in your handling, in the functioning of your weapon, or of the safety rules.
Loading a gun in the house can be as safe or dangerous this applys to loading it in the stand just the same.
Until each person can accept this as his own and full responsibility accident will continue to happen.
Accidental discharge puts the blame on something else, rather than where it belongs.........YOU so all those rem 700 that were messin up and firing when the bolt was closed... yep total disregard for hunting safety. I believe that would fall under knowing you weapon. The problem with the remy's firing will happen with or with out a round in it. You should know the safety features of your weapon and there limitation. If I handed you a loaded weapon and said it was empty and the safety was on....would you not check it or would you just take my word for it.... same thing If the weapon is in your hands, it now becomes your responsibility.
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/19/09 12:18 AM
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Closed Traverse
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thats dumb.... thats like me handing u a bomb, telling u it is safe, and then it blows up while ur just sitting there....well, u shouldve known the bomb and completely disabled it.... cmon, the bolt closes and BAM! not much u can do about that except always keep the muzzle in a safe direction, but it is still an ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE!
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/19/09 01:00 AM
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helomech
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thats dumb.... thats like me handing u a bomb, telling u it is safe, and then it blows up while ur just sitting there....well, u shouldve known the bomb and completely disabled it.... cmon, the bolt closes and BAM! not much u can do about that except always keep the muzzle in a safe direction, but it is still an ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE! 
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/19/09 02:28 AM
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KG68
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First off, I am never satisfied taking someone's word when it comes to guns. The only gun I trust is one that I have unloaded myself. That doesn't mean no one else has sense enough to handle a gun it just means I am not willing to put my life or welfare in some strangers hands when it comes to guns. I know first hand that guns fail sometimes but in most cases when people are injured or killed it is carelessness on someone's part.
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/19/09 03:22 AM
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See KG gets it.
Back to the Remy it was never the bolt, it was a problem with the trigger/safety mechanism.
When a firearm discharges negligently, more than one action must be scrutinized. The mechanical aspect in only one variation of the problem.
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/19/09 03:24 AM
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eevinrude
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I took hunter safety many years ago when I was just a youngster and I'm old enough not to need it but my parents knew it was a good idea. The first thing I learned was: Never load your gun until your actually setup and ready to hunt and always treat every gun as if it is loaded and could discharge at any time. Next was always check if a gun is loaded even if you just unloaded it and it was out of your control for even a second.
The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Genesis 9:2
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/20/09 06:43 PM
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My dad has and old sportarized Enfield and one of his buddies reworked the trigger. It would go off sometimes when you click the safety off. I was ashame because it was really a good shooting gun.
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/22/09 05:32 AM
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There is no such thing as a accidential discharg negligent.guns dont go off unless u dont have it on safe or u have it on fire with your finger on it. Sorry that always work for me.
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/22/09 05:52 AM
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There is no such thing as a accidential discharg negligent.guns dont go off unless u dont have it on safe or u have it on fire with your finger on it. Sorry that always work for me. Yeah, right. "No such thing as a "accidential discharg negligent.guns dont go off unless u dont have it on safe or u have it fire with your finger on it. Sorry that always work for me." I will have to bring this brilliant piece of gun safety to my next meeting. May I quote you?
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/22/09 11:01 AM
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Big Joe
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Anything mechanical is subject to failure. A safe handling procedure is the ONLY way to prevent gun accidents.
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/25/09 11:46 PM
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My Dad's old truck had a hole in the floorboard where my grandpa shot a hole in it while unloading it going down the road. Shot through the floorboard and into the right front tire while driving down the camp road. Since no one was hurt it always made for a good story, that was my first truck and when someone would ride with me they would always ask what is that silicone doing all over the floorboard. it was a lever action 30-30 that was given to me after he passed away.
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/29/09 06:02 PM
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There is no such thing as a accidential discharg negligent.guns dont go off unless u dont have it on safe or u have it on fire with your finger on it. Sorry that always work for me. Your right. Whatever happens with a gun in my hands, is my responsibility, period. I won't handle a closed gun, will correct others, and will check it when its handed to me, even if I saw you clear it. I will clear one, lay it down, and when I pick it up I will check it again. There are no accidents with loaded firearms. Yes, my Sig P226 is loaded and chambered right now. If it goes off laying there on the counter, it's still my fault. My M4 is loaded but not chambered. If I need it I'll have time to charge it.
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Re: Sat. Morning accidential discharge
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11/29/09 07:57 PM
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Sounds like he dont need a firearm in his possession.Typical Dumb ARSE if you ask me.Thats how Innocent people get Killed.He needs a lesson in Firearm Safety.You now they have Classes Everywhere.JMO
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