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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: JCB]
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11/06/09 04:41 PM
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Cooper, Lavon and T-Wok all have ducks right now! I seen them while fishing! Good luck everyone!  Oh yeah, Tawakoni is loaded up with ducks right now.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: Driller]
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11/06/09 05:40 PM
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yeah I have been reading through some of this section for about 2 hrs now and I am stunned. Never wouldve expected Texas hunters to act like this reguardless of what they are hunting. You must not hunt many public areas or if you do your not hunting the right areas or being very successful. Try a little experiment here and post some kill pics with "the real" lake name and tell me how it works for ya next time you hunt your spot!  I don't think you have yet witnessed the influence the internet has on posting specific spots on specific lakes near DFW, Austin, or Houston. 
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: DukCollectR]
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11/06/09 05:45 PM
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Driller J is probably just a Deer hunter over here to stir the pot.
Ask him to let you sit in his blind and shoot a deer and see if his reaction is similar.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/06/09 08:29 PM
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selfish american greed at its finest I don't know what you're definition of selfish is, but tell me what is so selfish about iviting people I don't even know out to hunt with me at a spot I've found on public land? 
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/06/09 10:13 PM
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I think my problem with it is some these post just come off as plain lazy. Can I hunt lake X. I don't know genious how about doing a google search, call the GW, call the Lake Office but for the love of pete don't just go naming a lake because you couldn't do the 3 minutes worth of work.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: FowlDreams]
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11/06/09 10:36 PM
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It comes from not understanding that 10,000 acre lake isn't that big when it comes to spots that are huntable. Especially if you are walking in.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/06/09 10:47 PM
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Thank goodness for Sniper John. When I see a new member ask a question about a specific lake he is usually the first (and sometimes only) to provide the poster with direction on where to find the answer themselves. Sniper John is probably responsible for more people coming back to this site than any other member and for that I applaud him. We all (I hope) agree that in order to protect our beloved waterfowl tradition, we must recruit new hunters. License sales have decreased over the years. I can say it would be discouraging if I were a new hunter seeking information on this site and read my first few replys after and "accidentally" named a lake.
In addition, rarely do I see a poster asking for specific coordinates on a 10k acre lake. Most just want to know if you can hunt the lake. In 20 years at this rate of licenses sales at least you'll be hunting all alone until they revoke hunting privilges.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: denton]
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11/06/09 11:05 PM
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Thank goodness for Sniper John. When I see a new member ask a question about a specific lake he is usually the first (and sometimes only) to provide the poster with direction on where to find the answer themselves. Sniper John is probably responsible for more people coming back to this site than any other member and for that I applaud him. We all (I hope) agree that in order to protect our beloved waterfowl tradition, we must recruit new hunters. License sales have decreased over the years. I can say it would be discouraging if I were a new hunter seeking information on this site and read my first few replys after and "accidentally" named a lake.
In addition, rarely do I see a poster asking for specific coordinates on a 10k acre lake. Most just want to know if you can hunt the lake. In 20 years at this rate of licenses sales at least you'll be hunting all alone until they revoke hunting privilges. 
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: denton]
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11/06/09 11:12 PM
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I think there's a big difference between someone saying, "Yes you can hunt Lake X." and killed a quick limit of mallards this morning at Lake X.
Chance are because you say "Yes you can hunt Lake X" there won't be tons of people showing up the next day just because you told someone the lake is open to the public. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to post where they are hunting and how many ducks they are seeing.
I drove 2 hours away to a lake and drove every single road that goes around the lake only to see a Fence surrounding the entire lake even when there is 5 foot of land between the road and the lake. I went talk to the new guy at the Marina, which is super nice by the way, and he really didn't know of any places accessible by the public. I was told by two other guys to stop on the middle of the bridge, unload my Stealth, then park across the bridge, walk back on the bridge to my Otter and go hunting. Well if thats the only way to access that part, I'll keep looking. I'm not really crazy about stopping on a bridge to unload a boat, decoys, etc. I drove the ara, I found ducks. I was just asking if there was anywhere near there where I could access the lake from the shore besides 3 miles away at the marina. But since I can't hunt it, I may as well share it with everyone else. Lake Stamford south of the bridge was holding several big rafts of ducks when I was there 3 weeks ago. Good Luck.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: denton]
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11/06/09 11:17 PM
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Thank goodness for Sniper John. When I see a new member ask a question about a specific lake he is usually the first (and sometimes only) to provide the poster with direction on where to find the answer themselves. Sniper John is probably responsible for more people coming back to this site than any other member and for that I applaud him. We all (I hope) agree that in order to protect our beloved waterfowl tradition, we must recruit new hunters. License sales have decreased over the years. I can say it would be discouraging if I were a new hunter seeking information on this site and read my first few replys after and "accidentally" named a lake.
In addition, rarely do I see a poster asking for specific coordinates on a 10k acre lake. Most just want to know if you can hunt the lake. In 20 years at this rate of licenses sales at least you'll be hunting all alone until they revoke hunting privilges. 
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: JCB]
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11/06/09 11:27 PM
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Guy
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But since I can't hunt it, I may as well share it with everyone else. Lake Stamford south of the bridge was holding several big rafts of ducks when I was there 3 weeks ago. Good Luck. Since "I" can't hunt it, I'll tell all the cyber scouters, and hurt the ones that put in the leg work. Cooper, Lavon and T-Wok all have ducks right now! I seen them while fishing!
Since "I" don’t duck hunt, I'll tell all the cyber scouters, and hurt the ones that put in the leg work. 
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: wal1809]
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11/06/09 11:27 PM
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I don't believe license sales are down one bit. I have seen the mass increase over the years and the license sales crap doesn't wash with me. They are giving percentages instead of true numbers. Percentage per population not the actual sales number. If you don't believe that go to anyone of the good lakes and tell me you saw that 30 years ago. If you tell me you see a decrease then I will know your full of  . Sniper is a nice guy and he smuzes things over pretty good. But you haven't been around long enough to know who does what for who. You certainly couldn't claim to know about PMs sent to guys in need. You certainly could not know about the soldier hunts that take place. There is a lot of things you apparently don't look at before you spouted your opinion about how we are the big bad mean SOBs. I don't like lake naming and I don't like lake namers. If you want to do it then I can't stop you. If you wantto kick your feet up and talk about duck hunting, then I am on call and can't go anywhere so we can chat duck hunting all night. But for the sake of keeping this thread clean and off of lock down, please knock off the blind accusations.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: wal1809]
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11/07/09 12:18 AM
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Wayne I've emptied some pms, so shoot!
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 12:25 AM
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I understand now. Thank you. Never thought of the squaters just wathing.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 12:34 AM
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That's all I wanted Folsom. Like I said I knew there was a lot of folks that probably didn't realize that. I'll even admit I didn't think about it till a couple years ago. I'll also admit that I even lurk on a few other sites every once in a while, and shame on somebody if they post a lake I'm interested in I still think some folks here are missing my point of this thread. It wasn't a 'who helps who' thread. The point was just to shed some light on the effects of naming lakes and asking about areas specifically. But I guess you just can't fix stupid.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 01:02 AM
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I like spoonie, his humor is dryer than my duck lease.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 01:13 AM
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 02:16 AM
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I promise you fouldreams I am constantly on the alert for birds. If somebody messes up and posts a pic with a background or marker anything, my research begins. Sorry JJ but I honed in your area, I just haven't had the time to go. I got a bro in law that lives in Sanger and I was up there for a few days last year. I had already seen posts and landmarks up there. A few google earth hours and I got a pretty good idea where to go. One day on the water and the rest will be duck smacking history. A couple of cups of coffee at the ramps and hey I got all I need.
So you folks just keep on with the keeping on. I run a 20 foot Gator Trax with a Go Devil surface drive. A big yellow lab hangin off the front. Your boat best be able to run 25 mph because Mine runs a smooth 24mph and I could very well be headed to your spot.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 02:57 AM
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Naming lakes doesn't increase pressure.
Posting pictures of dead ducks with landmarks in the background or discussing specific lake featurees does. Period.
I have hunted public lakes in Texas, mostly on weekends, for the past 8 years and have only had one or two barney issues. I hunt hard and go where barney doesn't have the determination or gear to get to. I always have multiple spots on each lake in case someone is where i want to be and have had MANY hunts saved by other hunters keeping the birds aloft.
Unless someone is mentioning specific arms or coves or ramps that they launch from, name away...
MODS could easily put an end to this mess by placing a sticky that sets ground rules and then following through with the AX.
1) No pictures with recognizable backround (signs, terrain features, etc) 2) No discussion of specific lake features, ramps, or success rates at specific lakes. 3) No threads asking stupid, 3 second googlable questions pertaining to legality of hunting certain lakes or parts of lakes.
PROBLEM SOLVED
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: FowlDreams]
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11/07/09 02:59 AM
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For what it's worth, I think the lake-naming phobia is blown WAY WAY out of proportion. I hunt one of the giant lakes north of Dallas. It's generally terrible recenetly, in part because of the number of people, but in larger part because of the lack of ducks. Since the peanuts have gone, so have the ducks.
In my view, hunting in general (and duck hunting especially) is about the enjoyment of being out there. People joke about how bad certain ducks taste (and divers taste bad, no doubt), so it's certainly not ALL about getting food out of a hunt - the price per pound for any of us is out of whack (except those fotunate enough to live on a huntable property). Personally, I think a lot of ducks taste great, and I really, really enjoy duck hunting, particularly when I can go with my dad. We go to said lake -- we've been all over the entire lake in boat and at the walk-in spots -- but we don't really do very well there these days. I don't think it's because people on the internet can figure out where that lake is.
As a better example, I expect that at least 90% of the people here know the public lake that JJ hunts, but that doesn't seem to ruin it for him. And he's posting pictures of limits 8 days a week! (although I'm sure he's had his share of too-close encounters, whether the internet is involved in that or not).
I would like to the people that read about lakes here also read about respecting the minimal distances between one hunter and the next -- anyone "scouting" here would understand why it's important to keep a necessary distance.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 03:30 AM
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I'll tell you what, ole Wayne will get fired up over some lake naming 
Attention rickym, this is not a troll post, just a good hearted fun type of post
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 03:48 AM
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great thread. JCB go back to the fishing forum. Oh nevermind you let your mouth run away over there, and my boy trimble chased you back over here. DrillerJ if you dont get it you just dont hunt public for ducks real simple. Sabot if you believe that your totally wrong. It does increase pressure i have seen it. it is not debatable.
a few years ago I was smacking the birds real steady on a certain lake. everyone on the lake was racing to one end. I was staying out in front of them. 0 pressure. all the sudden there was two or three threads about lake __________ and yes imagine that my spot that was easier to get to than the rest of the lake where you have to race two started getting hammered. Two days in a row i had people try and come in on me over an hour after LST. no these people where not duck hunters. No they do not kill ducks. But they skyblast and kazoo blow loud nough to run the ducks to Argentina.
It does effect the brids. Most of the time I am like you Sabot I hunt areas a barney does not know or even dream of. But when the birds are not there yet. I gotta follow the birds.
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 05:52 AM
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To the original post....have a few more beeerszy! hahahahaha
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
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11/07/09 06:03 AM
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darn duck n bass, u didnt even mention me... btw, ray roberts is still holding them in the north end, saw hundreds of green heads fishin this morning!
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Re: Reason why NOT to name lakes
[Re: Closed Traverse]
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11/07/09 03:29 PM
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darn duck n bass, u didnt even mention me... btw, ray roberts is still holding them in the north end, saw hundreds of green heads fishin this morning! Quit being a dildo Brandon. You live in Austin, you just started fishing after some guy gave you a boat, and you don't even know how to get to Ray Roberts. As far as I can tell everyone likes you, leave it alone.
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