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Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 02:53 PM
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Uncle Zeek
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https://www.silencershop.com/silencerco-hybrid-46m.htmlI'm waiting on the Form 1 to get approved on a 45acp SBR build. In the meantime, I'm wondering if a multi-purpose suppressor like this one is worth getting for it, as I'd like to be able to use it on one or two of my rifles from time to time. My thinking is that I'd rather only go through the Form 4 route once for a single can that could be used on multiple firearms, rather than having to get a separate suppressor for each firearm. Or is it better to get a dedicated can for each gun? (Yes, I know plenty about the laws on this subject. But what I know about the actual mechanics of suppressors could fill a few 3x5 index cards) Thanks all.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 03:22 PM
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I have a Hybrid 46 and it's a decent suppressor. I don't care for the way the QD attaches but everyone has an opinion on that. I fully support buying a multi-caliber suppressor to minimize the amount of time you go through the stamping process.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 04:16 PM
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I also have a Hybrid 46. I agree that the QD attachment is not the best. I really like that you can also use it on pistols as well as rifles.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 04:26 PM
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Multi tools are good.
My son just went through this decision process recently & my advice was that I'd rather have a Leatherman in the glove box than a custom made svelte gentleman's pen knife.
For my current uses I don't like the QD on anything either. On my last form4 I chose the Griffin Bushwacker 46 because the Hybrid46 has a proprietary sized adapter at the muzzle end and options for mounting it are more limited because of that.
The Bushwacker uses standard ASR thread pattern. I can pick up an ASR threaded adapter pretty much anywhere. You can use any number of manufacturer's devices for the mounting option & this allowed it to fit my crossover needs better than the Hybrid46. I've used the Bushwacker46 on several rifles in .223, X39, .308, 6creed, 357, 44mag etc. I have a couple handfuls of other cans to compare the performance against and I have no complaints on the sound reduction.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 04:42 PM
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Silencer Co makes great products and product recommendation are subjective on the forum. Your money, your gun...do as you wish. Good luck with your project.
IMO...QD attachment should be avoided, DT only, if available.
That is all!
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 05:06 PM
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I had the same approach and bought a Hybrid 46. The sacrifice is that it is often oversized which can cause problems with even suppressor height sights.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 05:07 PM
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Multi caliber suppressors are great. I have a 30 cal and use it on a lot of smaller calibers. I am not sure how well something with a bore that big would work on something really small like a 556. My dealer told me that shooting smaller calibers is fine you just lose some sound deadening performance. The smaller the bullet relative to the can the more you lose. It will certainly work just not sure how well it will perform on small calibers relative to a properly sized unit.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 06:28 PM
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Look at the Dead Air Primal. It is a 458 caliber, weighs 16.5 oz, 7.9" long and is full auto rated. Maximum muzzle energy of 5100 ft-lbs (up to 338 Lapua). They offer several mounting solutions, Xeno, Keymount, and direct thread. Can be used on handguns as well with the P-Series booster assembly and pistons. There are different endcaps that can be used if you want to increase its effectiveness in the smaller calibers.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 07:53 PM
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Multi caliber suppressors are great. I have a 30 cal and use it on a lot of smaller calibers. I am not sure how well something with a bore that big would work on something really small like a 556. My dealer told me that shooting smaller calibers is fine you just lose some sound deadening performance. The smaller the bullet relative to the can the more you lose. It will certainly work just not sure how well it will perform on small calibers relative to a properly sized unit. Well, the rifles I'd be using it on are 308, so hopefully it would work better. Look at the Dead Air Primal. It is a 458 caliber, weighs 16.5 oz, 7.9" long and is full auto rated. Maximum muzzle energy of 5100 ft-lbs (up to 338 Lapua). They offer several mounting solutions, Xeno, Keymount, and direct thread. Can be used on handguns as well with the P-Series booster assembly and pistons. There are different endcaps that can be used if you want to increase its effectiveness in the smaller calibers. Thank you, will look into this as well.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 07:59 PM
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The multi's normally are okay at everything but not good at anything. You'd be better off buying a 308 can and a big bore for your other needs...it's just money and this won't be your last one.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 08:10 PM
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Silencer Co makes great products and product recommendation are subjective on the forum. Your money, your gun...do as you wish. Good luck with your project.
IMO...QD attachment should be avoided, DT only, if available.
That is all! YHM has an awesome (and universal) QD system. I took the SilencerCo crap QD garbage off my Saker 762 and installed the YHM. Screw on, screw off. Couldn't get more perfect than that.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 08:11 PM
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First suppressor, .300 Win Mag rated, all Titanium, as short, narrow, and light as you can find.
Eventually you will want one for .45 cal bullets.
Eventually you will want one for .22 lr
Direct thread on all of them. End caps in 5/8-24 and 1/2-28 as needed.
I saw some good advice from a shooter buddy. As soon as your fist suppressor is in your hand, apply for the next one. The year wait isn't so painful when you're already shooting quiet. I know I forgot about my second one in wait several times. Out of the blue one day, my dealer called me and said he had my stamp.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 08:53 PM
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It’s a good jack of all calibers, master of none. For your first suppressor it’s a good choice, you’ll eventually want gun specific suppressors. I started with a SiCo Omega 30, then SiCo Spectre II, now I have a SiCo 46 Hybrid and 45 Octane locked up. Why 2 45 calibers? The 45 Octane will be soley used on a pistol carbine while the 46 Hybrid will be used on a 45 Raptor rifle.
I don’t know why so many dislike the QD mounting from SiCo. If you pay attention when threading the suppressor the system is fool proof. And I wish they would get away from QD “quick disconnect” and start calling it “multi caliber adapter.” It’s really not that quick, but the muzzle devices allow for use on a variety of calibers and threads.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 08:55 PM
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Another rec for the YHM system, and the 30 cal Resonator, Resonator 2, and Resonator K.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/03/22 09:00 PM
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Another rec for the YHM system, and the 30 cal Resonator, Resonator 2, and Resonator K. Yep YHM system is solid.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/04/22 02:00 AM
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T he multi's normally are okay at everything but not good at anything. You'd be better off buying a 308 can and a big bore for your other needs...it's just money and this won't be your last one. This. I have a hybrid and it works for what I want and covers everything I have. I want another can but it will be a minute. My next will be a nomad TI 30 cal
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/04/22 02:13 AM
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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Silencer Co makes great products and product recommendation are subjective on the forum. Your money, your gun...do as you wish. Good luck with your project.
IMO...QD attachment should be avoided, DT only, if available.
That is all! This! I have a Silencerco Omega I use for all my rifle applications. Nothing greater than .308 for now but covers my .300blk, 223/556, .308, and 7.62x39. That’s 7 rifles for me but who’s counting. DT on most for ease of swapping. Next is the Octane 45. Perfect for 9, 40 and 45. It stays on my AR9 but can be moved to any/all pistols with threaded barrels. I’ve shot it with 1911s, my FNX tactical, and G19. Muy bueno! Other silencer makers have great products too. Just make the most of your money is my suggestion.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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10/04/22 03:10 AM
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Silencer Co makes great products and product recommendation are subjective on the forum. Your money, your gun...do as you wish. Good luck with your project.
IMO...QD attachment should be avoided, DT only, if available.
That is all! DT can be a problem on guns like the Sig P226 where the factory threaded barrel has a left hand thread pattern. I got tired of my suppressor coming apart every time I attached it so went with a QD mount from Griffin Armament.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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The multi's normally are okay at everything but not good at anything. You'd be better off buying a 308 can and a big bore for your other needs...it's just money and this won't be your last one. This. Just buy 3 at once and get it over with: 1. Ti 30 cal 2. Pistol 45 cal 3. Rimfire I started with a heavy 30 cal, then rimfire, then got tired of the heavy 30 cal and bought a Thunderbeast. It was downhill from there....
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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The multi's normally are okay at everything but not good at anything. You'd be better off buying a 308 can and a big bore for your other needs...it's just money and this won't be your last one. This. Just buy 3 at once and get it over with: 1. Ti 30 cal 2. Pistol 45 cal 3. Rimfire I started with a heavy 30 cal, then rimfire, then got tired of the heavy 30 cal and bought a Thunderbeast. It was downhill from there.... ^
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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The multi's normally are okay at everything but not good at anything. You'd be better off buying a 308 can and a big bore for your other needs...it's just money and this won't be your last one. This. Just buy 3 at once and get it over with: 1. Ti 30 cal 2. Pistol 45 cal 3. Rimfire I started with a heavy 30 cal, then rimfire, then got tired of the heavy 30 cal and bought a Thunderbeast. It was downhill from there.... Anyone that can afford that, I agree.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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I didn't buy them all at once, but I wen .30 cal, then rimfire, and have a Primal .46 cal in jail (since last november). Went all Dead Air for mine. Hardest part is the waiting.
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Re: Suppressor question: multi-caliber, multi-use?
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I have a multi-cal suppressor but I hardly ever use it. Outside of rimfire suppressors the one I use the most is a Thunder Beast Ultra 338 and I put it on darn near every rifle that isn't a rimfire. Eventually I will pick up the same model except in 50 caliber and will use it on everything that has the correct threads.
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