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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/21/21 03:33 PM
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No more Monarch russian stuff, Wolf, or Tula...
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/21/21 03:36 PM
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scottfromdallas
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I’ll live just fine without garbage Russian ammo.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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08/21/21 04:19 PM
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Biscuit
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I’ll live just fine without garbage Russian ammo. Never owned a round myself
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/21/21 06:23 PM
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I've shot may hundreds of rounds of both Tula and Wolf without a single problem. Good cheap plinking ammo.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/21/21 08:22 PM
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I have seen Wolf Gold 223 shoot lights out in a friend’s AR
"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/21/21 08:59 PM
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Russian factory garbage is as good as American factory garbage. Quite disappointing move really. Our government has essentially decided that making a political statement against the Russian Federation is more important than taking actions to alleviate the ammo problem that has plagued our population for going on two years. We should be working on increasing foreign ammo and ammo component imports, not keeping them low or restricting them further. All I know is, I'm glad to have enough supplies to load what I need for years to come
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: HenryL]
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08/22/21 12:26 AM
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Russian factory garbage is as good as American factory garbage. Quite disappointing move really. Our government has essentially decided that making a political statement against the Russian Federation is more important than taking actions to alleviate the ammo problem that has plagued our population for going on two years. We should be working on increasing foreign ammo and ammo component imports, not keeping them low or restricting them further. All I know is, I'm glad to have enough supplies to load what I need for years to come The Russian oil and gas deal was allowed though. It's a political statement, but not against Russia.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: edwardd]
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08/22/21 01:15 AM
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Russian factory garbage is as good as American factory garbage. Quite disappointing move really. Our government has essentially decided that making a political statement against the Russian Federation is more important than taking actions to alleviate the ammo problem that has plagued our population for going on two years. We should be working on increasing foreign ammo and ammo component imports, not keeping them low or restricting them further. All I know is, I'm glad to have enough supplies to load what I need for years to come The Russian oil and gas deal was allowed though. It's a political statement, but not against Russia. https://c.tenor.com/Te4htNcAmmQAAAAM/morgan-freeman-pointing.gif
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/22/21 02:02 AM
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I use quite a bit of the 7.62x39 and 5.56 steel case. When you are shooting hogs from a chopper who cares what happens to the casing. You sure as hell don't want to throw brass away. Last night I ordered another 1000 rounds of Tulammo in a 123 gr HP. Went back later and the price was higher. This morning it was gone!! Same thing today at Academy. Bought some at $10.99 a box this morning. Later today it was $12.99 for the same thing.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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08/22/21 03:54 AM
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I’ll live just fine without garbage Russian ammo. You may not have shot it, but it removes supply when demand is already sky high, making the shortage worse. This was done solely to hurt American gun owners.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/22/21 03:59 AM
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Any supply stream items like that, wolf 22, wolf primers, barnul primers etc for get about it.. makes it tighter for main stream items.
This world we live in is really in bad shape
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: Biscuit]
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08/22/21 11:34 AM
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I’ll live just fine without garbage Russian ammo. Never owned a round myself Golden Tiger is about the best 7.62X39 you can get from any country. It's made to run in the AK platform which is Russian by the way...
Pass the gravy.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/22/21 12:19 PM
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Biden making sure it all goes to Afghanistan. Yes, Russia produces .223/5.56mm also in big demand now.
One shot is all it should take.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/22/21 12:22 PM
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One shot is all it should take.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: HenryL]
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08/22/21 01:57 PM
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scottfromdallas
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Russian factory garbage is as good as American factory garbage I agree. We need some American companies to step up their production of garbage steel case ammo. American jobs.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: yotehater]
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08/22/21 02:01 PM
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scottfromdallas
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Biden making sure it all goes to Afghanistan. Yes, Russia produces .223/5.56mm also in big demand now. Timing seems like it. I don't believe in coincidences.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: DStroud]
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08/22/21 03:03 PM
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I have seen Wolf Gold 223 shoot lights out in a friend’s AR The ones I have are made in Taiwan, I believe.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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08/22/21 03:35 PM
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Garbage in what way? I got acceptable accuracy with most of it and it functioned reliably. It is nice sometimes to not have to search for cases in the dark.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: rickt300]
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08/22/21 05:57 PM
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Garbage in what way? I got acceptable accuracy with most of it and it functioned reliably. It is nice sometimes to not have to search for cases in the dark. Russian Bot! Just kidding. It's fine for plinking.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: rickt300]
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08/22/21 06:25 PM
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Garbage in what way? I got acceptable accuracy with most of it and it functioned reliably. It is nice sometimes to not have to search for cases in the dark. All factory ammo is garbage, doesn't matter what country makes it. And by garbage, I don't mean that it doesn't have acceptable accuracy for most purposes - as it certainly does. Most factory ammo is just fine for the purposes that the majority of people will use it for. I simply mean it's like comparing a KIA (factory ammo) with an Aston Martin (precision hand loaded ammo made custom for a specific firearm). And once you have an your Aston Martin, everything else is garbage in comparison.
Last edited by HenryL; 08/22/21 06:32 PM.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: J Hills]
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08/22/21 10:04 PM
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This shouldnt be surprising. Obama is why we dont see any Saigas or 5.45 ammo. Trump didnt do anything to help. Biden is just picking it up where left off. Sure wish I would have picked up a couple of Saigas when they were dirt cheap.
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: jeepercreeper]
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08/22/21 11:27 PM
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Sure wish I would have picked up a couple of Saigas when they were dirt cheap. Yes, that's the key isn't it. Buy it before it becomes something everyone wants just because they believe everyone wants it too.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: New Sanctions on Russian Ammo
[Re: HenryL]
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08/23/21 11:42 AM
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Garbage in what way? I got acceptable accuracy with most of it and it functioned reliably. It is nice sometimes to not have to search for cases in the dark. All factory ammo is garbage, doesn't matter what country makes it. And by garbage, I don't mean that it doesn't have acceptable accuracy for most purposes - as it certainly does. Most factory ammo is just fine for the purposes that the majority of people will use it for. I simply mean it's like comparing a KIA (factory ammo) with an Aston Martin (precision hand loaded ammo made custom for a specific firearm). And once you have an your Aston Martin, everything else is garbage in comparison. Aston Martin? Bad comparison...the Brits have proven to be horrible at automobile design and manufacturing.
Pass the gravy.
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