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Re: I'm going to put a blind right here [Re: DQ Kid] #7217022 07/06/18 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: DQ Kid
I think a lot of times the fenceline hunting argument is overplayed on here, especially when feeders are clearly set up 100-200 yards into the adjacent property, but that setup is definitely a dangerous and counterproductive situation. I would first attempt to have a direct, civil discussion about it.


IMO, there's no foul when you have deer holding habitat on your side of the fence and you're shooting away from it. It becomes a problem when you have nothing on your side of the fence that provides deer with food and natural cover to sustain them.


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Re: I'm going to put a blind right here [Re: RattlesnakeDan] #7217198 07/06/18 04:42 PM
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Everyone has an opinion , I guess I do to. I would start by leaving a note in a baggie taped to the fence explaining the situation with my phone # and contact info. Figure out an option that you can agree on and may become friends. If it doesn't work out you can go to option #2 and get someone else involved. They may just be ignorant, first lease, new hunter etc...


I would do that, and * then also put a hidden game trail camera up to see if they pick up the note*...if so, you have evidence they have seen it. If they still haven't moved it or at least contacted you after a set amount of time, call the game warden.


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Originally Posted By: George - w/ Map My Ranch
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Everyone has an opinion , I guess I do to. I would start by leaving a note in a baggie taped to the fence explaining the situation with my phone # and contact info. Figure out an option that you can agree on and may become friends. If it doesn't work out you can go to option #2 and get someone else involved. They may just be ignorant, first lease, new hunter etc...


I would do that, and * then also put a hidden game trail camera up to see if they pick up the note*...if so, you have evidence they have seen it. If they still haven't moved it or at least contacted you after a set amount of time, call the game warden.


If they don't reach out to you, I'd reach out to the bank that's running the show. They have an excellent grasp on liability and will most likely not want to be part of any suit that could result from their leaser's incompetence.


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Re: I'm going to put a blind right here [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #7217939 07/07/18 01:32 PM
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If they don't reach out to you, I'd reach out to the bank that's running the show. They have an excellent grasp on liability and will most likely not want to be part of any suit that could result from their leaser's incompetence.


Bingo!....I think we have a winner!



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Re: I'm going to put a blind right here [Re: HWY_MAN] #7217943 07/07/18 01:37 PM
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If the blind and feeder were reversed how many of y’all would still be upset? I have a set up with the blind on the fence line...I own my section, built the fence, and like the how easy it is for me to park at the gate walk a short distance and be in my blind. Glad some of y’all are not my neighbors.

Hunting deer coming off my place headed to the neighbors, since everyone here claims the deer as “theirs” I guess I’m hunting “my” deer. If one comes from my neighbors side I’d shoot “his” deer I guess.

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If the blind and feeder were reversed how many of y’all would still be upset? I have a set up with the blind on the fence line...I own my section, built the fence, and like the how easy it is for me to park at the gate walk a short distance and be in my blind. Glad some of y’all are not my neighbors.

Hunting deer coming off my place headed to the neighbors, since everyone here claims the deer as “theirs” I guess I’m hunting “my” deer. If one comes from my neighbors side I’d shoot “his” deer I guess.


So, you own 640 acres, but hunt right on the fence line?

How do you know your neighbors won’t let an errant round cross the fence & hit you in the stand? From that perspective, how smart is it to hunt the fence line?

The closer you are to the neighbors, the more likely you are to be shot, by accident or design.

I just can’t understand fence line hunters.

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Originally Posted By: 8pointdrop
If the blind and feeder were reversed how many of y’all would still be upset?


From what I've read, most would agree with reversing the blind and feeder to be acceptable, which is the point when it comes to safety being the issue.
There are some who don't like someone hunting on the fenceline, but it's not against the law, but really just a matter of common sense.
If you have 640+ acres and put a blind on the fenceline, you are basically giving the middle finger to your neighbor to be honest.
Those same folks would probably troll on the internet.


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Re: I'm going to put a blind right here [Re: HWY_MAN] #7218073 07/07/18 05:21 PM
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I am amazed that this discussion is not filled with all those who generally take the contrary position!!! It's legal, stop whining, your selfish, how do you know they'll trespass?, etc, etc. It's common sense not to hunt someone else's property line. That set up tells you to reduce your IQ 50 points to have and equitable conversation. I have my own place and Again I have great neighbors, they don't hunt my line and with a call they are ALWAYS have my consent to retrieve anything they shoot that crosses my line. If I'm there I will help them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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If the blind and feeder were reversed how many of y’all would still be upset? I have a set up with the blind on the fence line...I own my section, built the fence, and like the how easy it is for me to park at the gate walk a short distance and be in my blind. Glad some of y’all are not my neighbors.

Hunting deer coming off my place headed to the neighbors, since everyone here claims the deer as “theirs” I guess I’m hunting “my” deer. If one comes from my neighbors side I’d shoot “his” deer I guess.


So, you own 640 acres, but hunt right on the fence line?

How do you know your neighbors won’t let an errant round cross the fence & hit you in the stand? From that perspective, how smart is it to hunt the fence line?

The closer you are to the neighbors, the more likely you are to be shot, by accident or design.

I just can’t understand fence line hunters.

Have 6 blinds on the place, one of which is on the front fence line about 60 yards from mine and the neighbors gate. We call it the front blind for obvious reasons....it’s facing a thick grove of mesquite and chap that deer bed in during the day. Some head north deeper into my place and some head east to his place in the evening, no feeder on this blind hunting the natural pattern of the deer. It’s nice to get off work and go straight to this blind during the week. Depending on wind direction I hunt the other blinds if I have more time for an evening hunt or in the mornings. Probably won’t kill the biggest buck on the place from the front blind but you never know. If the neighbor put one directly across the fence from mine facing his property I wouldn’t give a rip, Hell we could share beers thru the window.

Shooting across a fence is stupid and dangerous. Don’t agree with what hwyman’s neighbor did at all, but I’m not giving my neighbors the finger, a pos or a lazy azz because I have a blind on a fence line.

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Probably over half the people on this forum support fence hunting. And most are the people who hate high fences.

That warms all my cockles.


How close to the fence do your property rights go? popcorn

For the record, I don't hunt fence lines but don't care when the neighbors do. With a set up like in the OP, I would ask them to move it like we did with our neighbors. Not move it off the fence, move it so they aren't shooting onto our property. I also don't care about high fences. Just find it interesting that a HF proponent that lays the claim on property rights would argue against someone utilizing their entire property.


Just because something is legal, don’t make it ethical.

A 60 yo man could date a 17 yo high school girl legally. He’d still be an unethical scumbag. He also shouldn’t be surprised when he gets his azz kicked (or shot) for doin it.



He could obviously afford to hunt a HF place though.

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Originally Posted By: 8pointdrop
If the blind and feeder were reversed how many of y’all would still be upset? I have a set up with the blind on the fence line...I own my section, built the fence, and like the how easy it is for me to park at the gate walk a short distance and be in my blind. Glad some of y’all are not my neighbors.

Hunting deer coming off my place headed to the neighbors, since everyone here claims the deer as “theirs” I guess I’m hunting “my” deer. If one comes from my neighbors side I’d shoot “his” deer I guess.


Depends on what they could see on my place. Been letting a situation ride for the past few years but last year pushed me over the edge after a mid week visit to the place. Now they can look at 100yds of pines on a 3x3 plot and the fence moved to the actual surveyed property line.

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Easy remedy for them fockers. Get the GW out there and let him take a look and make contact.

Sec. 62.0121. DISCHARGE OF FIREARM ACROSS PROPERTY LINE. (a) In this section, "firearm" has the meaning assigned by Section 62.014(a).

(b) A person commits an offense if:

(1) the person, while hunting or engaging in recreational shooting, knowingly discharges a firearm; and

(2) the projectile from the firearm travels across a property line.

(c) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the person:

(1) owns the property on both sides of each property line crossed by the projectile; or

(2) has a written agreement with any person who owns property on either side of each property line crossed by the projectile that allows the person to discharge a firearm on, over, or across the property or property line.

(d) The written agreement required under Subsection (c)(2) must:

(1) contain the name of the person allowed to hunt or engage in recreational shooting in a manner described by Subsection (b);

(2) identify the property on either side of the property line crossed by the projectile; and

(3) be signed by any person who owns the property on either side of the line crossed by the projectile.

(e) An offense under this section is a Class C Parks and Wildlife Code misdemeanor.

(f) If conduct constituting an offense under this section constitutes an offense under a section of the Penal Code, the person may be prosecuted under either section or both sections


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I cleared a fence line and put up a fence, with no help from my neighbor. I never had intentions of putting a blind up...within 6 months they had 2 feeders up and blinds shooting directly down the fence line. Legally, they can do that, but it’s just not very friendly imo. We all share deer, so I am not too worried about it.

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We have a neighbor to the west that just has 2 acres. He has a feeder set up where he can shoot deer from his kitchen window. I wouldn’t begrudge a man wanting to kill a few deer. I killed a nice buck heading towards his place during the rut years back. The only problem I’ve ever had with the guy is he takes in strays. One morning one bowed up to one of my bird dogs. Luckily I got her in the box before a fight started. I told him if his pit mix jumped on a good dog I’d have to kill it. Never saw that dog again. It helps to make freinds with your neighbors.

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I would suspect this is an inexperienced hunter (at least hope so). Not only is the location disturbing and potentially dangerous, I see what looks to be an O&G pipeline right by the feeder so you might want to call that out as well.


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What ever happened to if you had a problem, walking up and talking with them. All these people saying call the law, and suggesting ways to get “even”.
In most cases if you presented it the right way, the problem would probably get resolved. And you might even make a friend out of the deal. You can never have too many hunting buddies. Especially in rural areas where help could be quite a ways away. Like someone else mentioned, it’s probably an inexperienced hunter who doesn’t know any better.
If that doesn’t work then you use other measures.


^Something along these lines is how I would handle it as well. After this problem gets resolved you and the adjacent landowner are still gonna be neighbors......


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First, I'd leave a note asking the hunter to get in contact with me. I'd then explain to him how his setup is unsafe and that the location of his blind makes it pretty much impossible to not break the law when shooting a deer at the feeder. I'd tell him that I had left the letter in hopes that we could resolve this problem without having to get the game warden involved. Basically, I'd show him how I am trying to give him a break by not immediately calling the law. Regardless of his response, I'd tell him that he had a specific amount of time (a month maybe) to move or rearrange his setup before I called the game warden.

Like was said above, he's going to be your neighbor after this is resolved so you might as well do your part to not immediately become enemies.

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First, I'd leave a note asking the hunter to get in contact with me. I'd then explain to him how his setup is unsafe and that the location of his blind makes it pretty much impossible to not break the law when shooting a deer at the feeder. I'd tell him that I had left the letter in hopes that we could resolve this problem without having to get the game warden involved. Basically, I'd show him how I am trying to give him a break by not immediately calling the law. Regardless of his response, I'd tell him that he had a specific amount of time (a month maybe) to move or rearrange his setup before I called the game warden.

Like was said above, he's going to be your neighbor after this is resolved so you might as well do your part to not immediately become enemies.


If I owned property, I'd like to think I'd make it a point to know who shares fence line with me so this type of issue would be minimized from the get-go.

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First, I'd leave a note asking the hunter to get in contact with me. I'd then explain to him how his setup is unsafe and that the location of his blind makes it pretty much impossible to not break the law when shooting a deer at the feeder. I'd tell him that I had left the letter in hopes that we could resolve this problem without having to get the game warden involved. Basically, I'd show him how I am trying to give him a break by not immediately calling the law. Regardless of his response, I'd tell him that he had a specific amount of time (a month maybe) to move or rearrange his setup before I called the game warden.

Like was said above, he's going to be your neighbor after this is resolved so you might as well do your part to not immediately become enemies.


The game warden is not going to do anything. No laws have been broken. If you were my neighbor and asked me for something reasonable I’d do it for you. If you threatened to involve the law I’d tell you to go F yourself and I’d keep telling you that until the day one of us died or moved.

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First, I'd leave a note asking the hunter to get in contact with me. I'd then explain to him how his setup is unsafe and that the location of his blind makes it pretty much impossible to not break the law when shooting a deer at the feeder. I'd tell him that I had left the letter in hopes that we could resolve this problem without having to get the game warden involved. Basically, I'd show him how I am trying to give him a break by not immediately calling the law. Regardless of his response, I'd tell him that he had a specific amount of time (a month maybe) to move or rearrange his setup before I called the game warden.

Like was said above, he's going to be your neighbor after this is resolved so you might as well do your part to not immediately become enemies.


If I owned property, I'd like to think I'd make it a point to know who shares fence line with me so this type of issue would be minimized from the get-go.


Thinking it would not be problem and it actually being a problem is quite a bit different. My buddy had to put up a mile of high fence on one side due to it. Just because you have owned a place for 30 years doesn't make you immune to it.

Look at my post above, one of our members here did it to me. It was resolved amically. I put a corn bag target in the fence and took a picture. Having 8 miles of fence makes it hard to know everyone all the time. Hwy_man is dealing with a trust so not a person.

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First, I'd leave a note asking the hunter to get in contact with me. I'd then explain to him how his setup is unsafe and that the location of his blind makes it pretty much impossible to not break the law when shooting a deer at the feeder. I'd tell him that I had left the letter in hopes that we could resolve this problem without having to get the game warden involved. Basically, I'd show him how I am trying to give him a break by not immediately calling the law. Regardless of his response, I'd tell him that he had a specific amount of time (a month maybe) to move or rearrange his setup before I called the game warden.

Like was said above, he's going to be your neighbor after this is resolved so you might as well do your part to not immediately become enemies.


The game warden is not going to do anything. No laws have been broken. If you were my neighbor and asked me for something reasonable I’d do it for you. If you threatened to involve the law I’d tell you to go F yourself and I’d keep telling you that until the day one of us died or moved.


Originally Posted By: txshntr
We had a similar incident at our place. GW came out and asked them to move it and they did with no issue.


I guess some wardens would try to do something about it, whether a law was broken or not.

I didn't say that the first thing I'd do was threaten to call the call the law. Obviously, if he agrees to move it after I pointed out the problem, I wouldn't mention anything else because he already agreed to do what I wanted him to do. If someone is being an [censored] about something, at a certain point all you can do is threaten them or give up the fight. I'd rather be threatened (warned) then just have the law called on me without warning.

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First, I'd leave a note asking the hunter to get in contact with me. I'd then explain to him how his setup is unsafe and that the location of his blind makes it pretty much impossible to not break the law when shooting a deer at the feeder. I'd tell him that I had left the letter in hopes that we could resolve this problem without having to get the game warden involved. Basically, I'd show him how I am trying to give him a break by not immediately calling the law. Regardless of his response, I'd tell him that he had a specific amount of time (a month maybe) to move or rearrange his setup before I called the game warden.

Like was said above, he's going to be your neighbor after this is resolved so you might as well do your part to not immediately become enemies.


If I owned property, I'd like to think I'd make it a point to know who shares fence line with me so this type of issue would be minimized from the get-go.


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Hwy man, is this a deer lease or is it the property owner that put the stand there. If it’s a lease, the owner may not know about it. We told our lease owner about a similar situation and the problem was solved when our owner called his neighbor. The stand was gone the next weekend


This is an estate with multiple family members handled by a local bank from what I know.


OP doesn't know his neighbors and it doesn't sound like he's ever going to know all of them. I doubt he even knows if its the owners or someone they leased to.

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I was on a lease years back in South Texas. We ended up with way to many hunters and no place for stands. Lease Mgr put a stand on a Fence. I said this aint East texas, the Rancher next door will more than likley set it on fire. He no he won't, he is the bother to the guy that owns this ranch. I said all the more reason.

A few days later the Rancher tied a rope around the stand pulled it over the fence to his side of the property, with the rope left on it. Called his brother and said he'd shoot anybody that tried to retrieve the stand. Problem solved.


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Originally Posted By: therancher
Probably over half the people on this forum support fence hunting. And most are the people who hate high fences.

That warms all my cockles.

I'm guessing most on here don't support hunting fence lines. As far as high fences, if you have the money, go for it.
FWIW, we have 2 stands with 4 feeders on one of our fences. One feeder leg is tied off to a t post


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