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 Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 11:51 AM
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been seeing the mex bird around Austin for at least 26 yrs
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 12:48 PM
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We have seen them both along with a young Golden Eagle between South Bend And Eliasville.....
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 01:52 PM
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1okiebirdhunter
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Picture of mexican eagle anyone.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 02:26 PM
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I've seen the Mexican eagles in McLennan and Falls county. Odd, though. I saw a lot more 10-15 years ago than now for some reason. I've seen bald eagles nesting on the bluffs of the middle Bosque river, and saw one cross Hwy-7 in Robinson county about a month ago. He was huge, wing span wide as or wider than my truck. Very impressive bird.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 02:32 PM
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Picture of mexican eagle anyone. Bald Eagle in Colorado County  Caracara in Goliad County    I used to see Golden Eagles annually in Jan-March and then in the early fall in Kendall County. Seen one down in La Salle County late in deer season one winter.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 04:02 PM
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Golden Eagles actually are the bird on the Mexican flag.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 06:21 PM
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caracaras are commonly referd to as Mx eagles around these parts...
colloquial name is qui-che...
hence the nane of Quihi Tx...
true Mx eagles are Golden eagle which range thru WTx as far E as Rocksprings, WTx and into Mx and South and N into the Rockies
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 07:27 PM
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Not very good pictures - second one you have to zoom on to get a better look - what do yall think? First pic taken by my neighbor. The second picture was taken on my pond dam - when the bird took off its wing span was huge - sure looked like a bald eagle to me  
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 07:50 PM
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That second pic sure looks like a Bald Eagle to me tlk. About 2 years ago there were some talk that one had had been seen at he dam, everybody was saying it was caracaras. But looking at that pic and where you took it, hhmmm.....
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 08:12 PM
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tlk
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That second pic sure looks like a Bald Eagle to me tlk. About 2 years ago there were some talk that one had had been seen at he dam, everybody was saying it was caracaras. But looking at that pic and where you took it, hhmmm..... That pond is about 10-15 minutes from Granger Lake -
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 10:27 PM
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Haven't seen any here in Frisco..... But I hear they are DELICIOUS 
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 10:52 PM
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I've seen a bunch of Caracara's in Johnson,Hood and Somervell counties the last couple years. I didn't know what the hell they were when I first saw one,but took a good pic of one on my phone and searched on the internet until I found out what it was.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/10/18 11:35 PM
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tlk,
those both unquestionably are eagles. The bill/beak on the first one is distinctive. The second photo with the white head and tail is distinctive for an adult. Congratulations! Very neat, thank you for sharing.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 12:31 AM
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tlk
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tlk,
those both unquestionably are eagles. The bill/beak on the first one is distinctive. The second photo with the white head and tail is distinctive for an adult. Congratulations! Very neat, thank you for sharing. Wish I had better pics but taken with my Iphone from a distance - after I saw him/her I googled it - come to find out if you have bald eagles nesting on your property the government can basically come in and take it over as a sanctuary
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 12:49 AM
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Yep tlk kinda worry about that. When the Whopping Cranes were here, they were on where I live and my neighbors place. All the farmers/ranchers were worried what THE MAN might do because they are such a endangered species. Everybody was sure glad when they moved on!!
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 01:27 AM
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tlk,
those both unquestionably are eagles. The bill/beak on the first one is distinctive. The second photo with the white head and tail is distinctive for an adult. Congratulations! Very neat, thank you for sharing. Wish I had better pics but taken with my Iphone from a distance - after I saw him/her I googled it - come to find out if you have bald eagles nesting on your property the government can basically come in and take it over as a sanctuary No, that is not correct, even a little. You cannot harass them or destroy their nest. The one thing that is a bit heavy-handed is that it is not legal to possess their feathers. So if a feather falls out, and they will, leave it alone. They come down hard on that to prevent people from killing them to sell the feathers, which is a felony as it ought to be. Bottom line - count yourself lucky and enjoy them. The black helicopters are not on their way.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 01:34 AM
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tlk
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I realize this is a different state but I read somewhere awhile back that if they nest on your property in Texas the state can protect that area? I am sure I may be wrong but I recall reading something to that effect I dont think I will have a nest but just curious http://www.echopress.com/news/3994026-you-asked-what-if-eagle-builds-nest-your-property
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 01:46 AM
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Stripping out the sensationalism, the key statements are what I just said above. "You cannot harass them or destroy their nest. The one thing that is a bit heavy-handed is that it is not legal to possess their feathers. So if a feather falls out, and they will, leave it alone." vs. the article "Both laws prohibit “take” and possession of eagles, their parts, nests and eggs. The Eagle Act also protects from “disturbance.” This means no one can agitate an eagle to the degree that it causes injury, decrease in productivity or nest abandonment." Continue using the property as you have been and you'll be fine. The eagles like what you are doing, so there should be no issues. If you find a nest, do not go and cut it down, that will bring trouble, as it should. The IRS is a way bigger thing to worry about than having eagles on your property. If anything, you ought to be able to claim a conservation exemption on your property to minimize property taxes. So, they may have some financial benefit to you.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 02:15 AM
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tlk
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Stripping out the sensationalism, the key statements are what I just said above. "You cannot harass them or destroy their nest. The one thing that is a bit heavy-handed is that it is not legal to possess their feathers. So if a feather falls out, and they will, leave it alone." vs. the article "Both laws prohibit “take” and possession of eagles, their parts, nests and eggs. The Eagle Act also protects from “disturbance.” This means no one can agitate an eagle to the degree that it causes injury, decrease in productivity or nest abandonment." Continue using the property as you have been and you'll be fine. The eagles like what you are doing, so there should be no issues. If you find a nest, do not go and cut it down, that will bring trouble, as it should. The IRS is a way bigger thing to worry about than having eagles on your property. If anything, you ought to be able to claim a conservation exemption on your property to minimize property taxes. So, they may have some financial benefit to you.
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 02:18 AM
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tlk
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Stripping out the sensationalism, the key statements are what I just said above. "You cannot harass them or destroy their nest. The one thing that is a bit heavy-handed is that it is not legal to possess their feathers. So if a feather falls out, and they will, leave it alone." vs. the article "Both laws prohibit “take” and possession of eagles, their parts, nests and eggs. The Eagle Act also protects from “disturbance.” This means no one can agitate an eagle to the degree that it causes injury, decrease in productivity or nest abandonment." Continue using the property as you have been and you'll be fine. The eagles like what you are doing, so there should be no issues. If you find a nest, do not go and cut it down, that will bring trouble, as it should. The IRS is a way bigger thing to worry about than having eagles on your property. If anything, you ought to be able to claim a conservation exemption on your property to minimize property taxes. So, they may have some financial benefit to you. You know way more than I do about it - I doubt they would nest on my place - too much activity. My guess is the bird was passing through looking for a mate. At any rate it was very cool to see - thank you for the expertise
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 02:23 AM
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Even if they are not nesting on the property, if they are using it periodically to feed or rest, you still may qualify for a conservation exemption. You’re welcome and congratulations! 
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 02:36 AM
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I’ve always called them Mexican buzzards.....not Mexican eagles....
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 02:56 AM
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jeffbird, you sound like you have great knowledge of the laws/rules. That is something else, not making anything of it, just wondering if you are in TPWD,USFW? The reason I am asking is a USFW biologist came out here(when the WC) were here he was saying the same thing. You are spot on what he said!!!! About the Whooping Cranes when they were here!
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Re: Mexican eagle (caracara) and bald eagles
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06/11/18 04:01 AM
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Vocation is a lawyer for 30 years. My avocation is conservation, especially bird conservation, which is where the "bird" comes from in my handle. I manage to combine the two on cases involving conservation issues, endangered species and water rights. Tough way to make money, but hopefully the effort makes the state I love a better place for all of us now and in the future. A bird sanctuary on the coast was named after me for all my volunteers hours and miles, which is one of the real highlights of my life. Thanks for the nice note Billy.
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06/11/18 04:31 AM
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jeffbird, my hat is off to you SIR. When the WC were here, I didn't tell anybody that they were here, beside LL, you know who I am talking about. Just was so amazed!!! I was made a member of the ICF. It was a tongue in cheek to say the least to not tell anybody, but I knew!! Thanks jeffbird!! Sorry tlk to get off your topic!
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