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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Not a gun topic per say but I’ve been told a coyote is the only animal fast enough to dodge a bullet.
When I asked how they figured that they said “well, it ducked when I shot at it”
Never heard of jumping the powder.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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My 25-06 shoots in a corkscrew pattern just like it's supposed to. My 22mag must be trying to imitate your 25-06. I can't get it to shoot under 3 inch groups at 100. Not really stupid stuff people say but did everyone see that post about Franklin "Reformation" with straight rifling shooting special bullets? I'm still not sure if that is a hoax, or did they really produce this rifle tube with trigger.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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I once told my uncle after he explained how he Shot an elk at 750yds with his 257 Weatherby by just holding a little high on it’s shoulder that if that’s the case then he should be sure and step to the left if he ever missed a shot. He asked why and I explained that way when the bullet traveled around the world it wouldn’t hit him in the back of the head. Yes! That's a good one. I had a similar experience at a store talking ammo and hunting. A guy said he shot an elk at about 700 yards by holding at the top of his back. I forget the slow round he was shooting, but I quickly said that animal wasn't 700 yards then. He argued, and I quickly told him what I did and ran a quick trajectory chart. I told him sure, that elk was probably 300-400 yards, but not 700. It's not possible with the round/bullet you are shooting and the hold on the elk you describe. He left mumbling off. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ there are piles of animals killed every year at "500" yards probably as many that are hit fatally and never recovered or looked for because they didn't fall right away and ran maybe 10 yards and fell just out of sight
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Guy I know claimed to shoot an elk at 500 yards running with a 7mm mag. He said he held the crosshairs on the tip of the bulls nose to compensate for lead and drop. Didn't believe it then and don't now.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Lots of cartridges are somewhere between 2.0 and 3.0 Mil at 500 yards, from a 100 yard zero.
In inches, at the target, that's between 36" and 54" of elevation.
I'm not saying he didn't, but I'm not saying he did either.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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It was supposedly also standing on a running 4 wheeler and off hand at dusk lol. He has a lot of good stories.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Well, that changes things a bit.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Glocks never jam AK’s never jam You can’t shoot lead bullets in a glock Open carry makes you a target Don’t put a grip plug in your glock; the air comes out of the hole and will cause a malfunction if it’s plugged Uzi is what you need for clearing rooms You can’t miss with a shotgun 12ga loaded with 00 buck is the best HD gun, even for your 78yo grandma. You can’t miss. 30-30 isn’t powerful enough to kill deer/bear/hogs
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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.223 isn't enough gun for deer or hogs. It may not be the best choice, but it will do the job.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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They should set up bleachers and serve refreshments at Academy gun counter! And Wal Mart check outs.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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You just gotta file down that pin to make it full auto
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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That a 45 ACP will knock a man backwards and off his feet. Overheard a box store gun counter guy tell this to a customer. It's true. I have seen it happen several times in movies.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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You just gotta file down that pin to make it full auto You can actually do that with a 10/22, it's why I mailed my trigger group to Brimstone. I feared I'd screw it up and have to replace.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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That a 45 ACP will knock a man backwards and off his feet. Overheard a box store gun counter guy tell this to a customer. It's true. I have seen it happen several times in movies. No Doubt! If Steve McGarrett on Hawaii Five-0 can shoot down a single engine aircraft with a S&W model 36 38 special, I do not doubt anything firearm related being possible.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Oh, the #1 thing I hear that's BS, is "that my gun doesn't like this XYZ bullet". That's a false statement (and true at the same time)! Yes, the true part is the current ammunition (load) you are shooting with that bullet your rifle does not like (currently). What your rifle does NOT like is the powder and powder charge used with that bullet. I can (generally) take most any bullet and make it shoot good out of that rifle that you said doesn't like this bullet, and make it shoot. I do this by tuning the powder and powder charge to the harmonics of the barrel. This will dial in "the bullet" to shoot accurately and consistently. I have done it MANY times!
Or, "My gun only likes XX grain weight bullets". No, it will like other weight bullets. Same thing as above.
Chad, this may be an ignorant question, but can you tune the powder and charge for various different "XX grain weight bullets" to make it shoot regardless of barrel twist?
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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That the 6.5 Creed is the only cartridge you will ever need and that it is better than a 270!
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Chad, this may be an ignorant question, but can you tune the powder and charge for various different "XX grain weight bullets" to make it shoot regardless of barrel twist?
That would be a NO. Rate of twist imposes limits on bullet lengths (and by extension, weights) that will work.
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Re: BS stuff about guns you hear?
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Oh, the #1 thing I hear that's BS, is "that my gun doesn't like this XYZ bullet". That's a false statement (and true at the same time)! Yes, the true part is the current ammunition (load) you are shooting with that bullet your rifle does not like (currently). What your rifle does NOT like is the powder and powder charge used with that bullet. I can (generally) take most any bullet and make it shoot good out of that rifle that you said doesn't like this bullet, and make it shoot. I do this by tuning the powder and powder charge to the harmonics of the barrel. This will dial in "the bullet" to shoot accurately and consistently. I have done it MANY times!
Or, "My gun only likes XX grain weight bullets". No, it will like other weight bullets. Same thing as above.
Chad, this may be an ignorant question, but can you tune the powder and charge for various different "XX grain weight bullets" to make it shoot regardless of barrel twist? Like what RR said, if the bullet is adequately stable for the twist for the barrel, I can generally get it to shoot well. There are some rifles that I have shot that we tried an aggressive bullet for that rifle set up (short mag box, bullet seated deep, long jump to the rifling, or slower twist rate) and I simply could not get it to shoot for good accuracy (acceptable accuracy). There are those rifles that are finicky. Finicky rifles, I drop down in bullet length (shorter bullet) to a flat base soft point, which is generally lighter, and then slow it down some. I'll also go to a faster burning powder for that combination (bullet weight vs cartridge). Faster burning powders in a given combo have a much larger sweet spot, or accuracy node. There are some calibers that do not like to shoot well at the top speeds, like a 26 Nosler. I can push a 140 grain 150-200 fps faster, but it shoots like crap. Slow it down a little, and it's a hammer. But I have taken many rifles that a customer said, "My rifle doesn't like XX bullet". They want to shoot that bullet, so I tell them let's go with it, and I make it shoot it very well. They are shocked when I do. That's why I say it's not the "bullet" that the rifle dislikes, it's the load used with that bullet that the rifle doesn't like.
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