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Re: Home build [Re: Ramball36] #6937754 10/29/17 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ramball36
I guess inspector gadget missed that little bitty skytrak in the background


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Originally Posted By: ducknbass
No safe room. Thinking about one of those little rooms from home depot in the garage though. Probably hide in there when my two daughters get a bit older.


Just letting you know what I'm doing in 18 months.

With an open slab, I'll have weld plates installed in the field, right where I will put in the safe room. 3" square tubing as columns, 3" channel iron as purlins, 1/4" plate welded to the outter wall. I figure I'm a welder and can build that cheaper than hiring masons to build the typical cinder block filled wall.


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Impressed.
Very. Gonna' be a sweet crib. Love my metal roof. 3 car garage is a must for me too. Looking good DnB up


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That looks great! Can't wait to see it finished. up


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The lumber is still banded....so you had them drive those fork lifts up on that semi-green slab with that much weight.... eek2


I guess inspector gadget missed that little bitty skytrak in the background


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No safe room. Thinking about one of those little rooms from home depot in the garage though. Probably hide in there when my two daughters get a bit older.


Just letting you know what I'm doing in 18 months.

With an open slab, I'll have weld plates installed in the field, right where I will put in the safe room. 3" square tubing as columns, 3" channel iron as purlins, 1/4" plate welded to the outter wall. I figure I'm a welder and can build that cheaper than hiring masons to build the typical cinder block filled wall.


I am fixing to do the same thing. The steel is going to run quite a bit more than CMU's
Using steel it's going to be about 6000 lbs while just the CMU's alone will weigh appx 11,000 lbs

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Another weekend of fun.

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Looking great. Keep us updated


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Re: Home build [Re: ducknbass] #6948323 11/06/17 05:14 PM
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I talked it over with 2 framers and my inspector all agreed no roof load no headers needed on Windows and doors

What say you?

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Im digging how you're doing the walls, even a moron like me could prolly build that house that way

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Originally Posted By: Ramball36
Im digging how you're doing the walls, even a moron like me could prolly build that house that way


That's my hope!

Well actually my hope is that a moron like me could build it.. which may still be a stretch.

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Originally Posted By: Ramball36
Im digging how you're doing the walls, even a moron like me could prolly build that house that way


Let's not get carried away.


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Re: Home build [Re: ducknbass] #6951255 11/08/17 02:10 PM
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I'm gonna be the more mature, talented, and overall good looking person in this and calmly walk away

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I dont know if you are planning on a vaulted ceiling,,, but I HIGHLY recommend it !!!! At least in the living room. Makes a huge difference .


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I talked it over with 2 framers and my inspector all agreed no roof load no headers needed on Windows and doors

What say you?

If you are supporting the ceilings off that top plate I would atleast do 2x6 headers.

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I'm gonna be the more mature, talented, and overall good looking person in this and calmly walk away


Man, I seriously thought you were going with “I’m going to be the taller man here and just walk away.”

roflmao

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I'm gonna be the more mature, talented, and overall good looking person in this and calmly walk away


Man, I seriously thought you were going with “I’m going to be the taller man here and just walk away.”

roflmao


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Re: Home build [Re: ducknbass] #6955245 11/11/17 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: ducknbass
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I talked it over with 2 framers and my inspector all agreed no roof load no headers needed on Windows and doors

What say you?


2x6 min. just cuz. even no load you still have an opening to support with the short cripples.

only time I use flat headers is for interior no load doors, even pass thrus I put in a 2x6 (people seem to like to hang stuff above pass thrus).

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I talked it over with 2 framers and my inspector all agreed no roof load no headers needed on Windows and doors

What say you?


2x6 min. just cuz. even no load you still have an opening to support with the short cripples.

only time I use flat headers is for interior no load doors, even pass thrus I put in a 2x6 (people seem to like to hang stuff above pass thrus).


Dumb question, forgetting load, wouldn't the headers still give the window frame more strength for when someone slams a door in the house, windows dont rattle?


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I talked it over with 2 framers and my inspector all agreed no roof load no headers needed on Windows and doors

What say you?


2x6 min. just cuz. even no load you still have an opening to support with the short cripples.

only time I use flat headers is for interior no load doors, even pass thrus I put in a 2x6 (people seem to like to hang stuff above pass thrus).


Dumb question, forgetting load, wouldn't the headers still give the window frame more strength for when someone slams a door in the house, windows dont rattle?




they do keep jambs tighter (window openings are always considered load bearing though, exterior wall), also support top plate over the opening. joists, purlin cripples etc. could all end up over one. also not enough cost difference to add much for what you get in return.
I never did windows/exterior doors with less than a 2x10 header, 2x12 tight to plate preferred.

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I talked it over with 2 framers and my inspector all agreed no roof load no headers needed on Windows and doors

What say you?


2x6 min. just cuz. even no load you still have an opening to support with the short cripples.

only time I use flat headers is for interior no load doors, even pass thrus I put in a 2x6 (people seem to like to hang stuff above pass thrus).


Dumb question, forgetting load, wouldn't the headers still give the window frame more strength for when someone slams a door in the house, windows dont rattle?




they do keep jambs tighter (window openings are always considered load bearing though, exterior wall), also support top plate over the opening. joists, purlin cripples etc. could all end up over one. also not enough cost difference to add much for what you get in return.
I never did windows/exterior doors with less than a 2x10 header, 2x12 tight to plate preferred.


Interesting to say the least. Been DIY'ing my barndo and using headers over every opening regardless.
6632 lbs of steel was delivered yesterday for the safe room.

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The lumber is still banded....so you had them drive those fork lifts up on that semi-green slab with that much weight.... eek2


I guess inspector gadget missed that little bitty skytrak in the background


Hardy har har..... grin And that "little bitty skytrak" weighs how much compared to a loaded heavy duty fork lift?

And to the window and door headers......Obviously the roof load is with the metal building. However, what about ceiling joists and ceiling sheetrock or other covering? That doesn't rate up there with the weight of traditional construction, but it isn't exactly weightless. I would think some kind of headers would be necessary. Or did "Inspector Gadget" miss something else?

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Danny you should google how a skytrak works.........stay hot

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