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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/17/17 11:11 AM
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Interesting how/what criteria people use as a "ruler" to judge things such as accuracy and appearance. Many of national .22 records are over 40 years old, have not been broken. Which could mean older people were better shooters, older guns were more accurate, or ammo was more consistent. May just be that people chase things they can't obtain easily and when they get discouraged they just quit and move on to a new game. One example that always comes to mind is drag racing. Every town has a local champion.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/17/17 12:24 PM
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I had a Kidd Supergrade. It shot unbelievable. I used to give the 25 yard benchresters fits HAD? Why Had? That's when I decided to get into a whole .22 benchrest set up. I'll try and find pics of the Kidd. I had a custom air brush job on the stock.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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I had a Kidd Supergrade. It shot unbelievable. I used to give the 25 yard benchresters fits HAD? Why Had? That's when I decided to get into a whole .22 benchrest set up. I'll try and find pics of the Kidd. I had a custom air brush job on the stock. photobucket is holding them hostage
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/17/17 01:22 PM
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You need to give 10/22's more credit. They're much better than just a cheap rifle. You completely left out Win 82's. My nib 82 is not afraid of your top of the line rifle.
You ammo knowledge is impressive and right in line with my experience. Nice write up.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/17/17 01:58 PM
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/17/17 04:21 PM
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I have had really great results with my early 80's model 77/22. I floated the barrel, added a Volquartsen sear and spring kit, and polished the internals. It currently wears a Viper HST 6-24 mil/mil scope and likes CCI SV. Most days it will get .5 to .6 inch groups at 50 yards. I've also taken it out to 400 yards with Mini Mags on a 16 inch gong. I'm hitting somewhere around 35 - 40% at that range. I really need a 20 or 30 MOA base since I'm completely running out of adjustment around 350 yards, but I've never been able to find anything that would fit.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/17/17 04:42 PM
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What are the elevation corrections for 22lr beyond 100 yards?
The SK Standard Plus with a 25 yard zero requires 9 MOA for 100m.
That is as far as I have taken it, but would be interested in going out to 200.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/17/17 06:56 PM
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nicely done I have two 452s, a scout and an American Then I got a 455 threaded which is the only one that gets used these days... All 3 will drive thumb tacks at 50 yards and they aren't that picky about ammo. Been running Weaver rimfire scopes on them, 2-7 on the Scout and the 455 has the 3-9 with AO Damned nice little scopes that I have had for over 10 years
10/22 with a red dot ad Gemtech Mist integrally suppressed barrel is the fun, plinking gun!
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/17/17 08:29 PM
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I have a SAKO Quad and a Remington 541-T
I do like the trigger on the Remington, and if it has a better stock I think it'll shoot better.... the bedding at the front came loose
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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I have a SAKO Quad and a Remington 541-T
I do like the trigger on the Remington, and if it has a better stock I think it'll shoot better.... the bedding at the front came loose Those are both very fine rifles. I would be happy to own either of them. My all time "grail" rimfire is a Winchester 52d. Maybe I will cruise the next gunshow and pick one up.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/18/17 01:31 AM
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my 452s both had the trigger mods that were popular and have held up great. I didn't really think the 455 needed it.
My 452 American is beautiful and I didn't have the heart the thread the barrel and so I got the 455 threaded. My brother has the Savage 22LR "Tactical" and I have the 22 Mag version. Good rifles as well
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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my 452s both had the trigger mods that were popular and have held up great. I didn't really think the 455 needed it.
My 452 American is beautiful and I didn't have the heart the thread the barrel and so I got the 455 threaded. My brother has the Savage 22LR "Tactical" and I have the 22 Mag version. Good rifles as well There is really a huge difference (to me) between the 452 and the 455. Like you, my 455 trigger came crisp out of the box, but a little heavy (3lbs) which is why I used the YoDave kit. The 452 was not as good as the 455 as far as triggers go, and really needed the YoDave kit. Made a world of difference. Also, I agree on not chopping and threading the bbl on the 452. If they were switch barrels like the 455 series it wouldnt be that big of an issue.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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I need to lighten the trigger on this rifle, it kills me. .22lr ammo is finicky as heck. Bix N Andy makes a trigger for the Quad nut its almost $500
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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Looking good Buzz. I really like those blue zero targets as well. Never seen those.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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Jeffbird, with a 25 yard zero and CCI SV's, it's 6.8 MOA for me at 100....BUT, with subsonic ammo your scope height will also make a lot of difference. P_102
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/18/17 09:57 PM
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Looking good Buzz. I really like those blue zero targets as well. Never seen those. Mountain Plains make the targets, I think you can buy direct and Brownell's stocks them. I really like them cuz the have 3 holes punched. I keep all my targets in 3 ring binders so I can go back and review. I'm blaming the trigger (and me)on my quad for larger groups, I squeeze the trigger feels like it will never break. I think its 4# way too heavy for precision shooting. I ordered a box of Tenex to try. I'll blame the ammo too,
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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Looking good Buzz. I really like those blue zero targets as well. Never seen those. Mountain Plains make the targets, I think you can buy direct and Brownell's stocks them. I really like them cuz the have 3 holes punched. I keep all my targets in 3 ring binders so I can go back and review. I'm blaming the trigger (and me)on my quad for larger groups, I squeeze the trigger feels like it will never break. I think its 4# way too heavy for precision shooting. I ordered a box of Tenex to try. I'll blame the ammo too, Thats funny. You sound like me now. lol, And why would a Sako Quad have a #4 trigger?
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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I design and print my own targets. That blue target would be a snap to build in Excel.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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10/22/17 11:38 PM
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Looking good Buzz. I really like those blue zero targets as well. Never seen those. Mountain Plains make the targets, I think you can buy direct and Brownell's stocks them. I really like them cuz the have 3 holes punched. I keep all my targets in 3 ring binders so I can go back and review. I'm blaming the trigger (and me)on my quad for larger groups, I squeeze the trigger feels like it will never break. I think its 4# way too heavy for precision shooting. I ordered a box of Tenex to try. I'll blame the ammo too, Thats funny. You sound like me now. lol, And why would a Sako Quad have a #4 trigger? I still have some old 1957-58 W-W Match ammo that I use with my Remington M37. I could give you an empty box and you could put your new ammo in the old yellow paper box. Tell people financing is dictating you use up all your old ammo before buying any modern.
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Re: Precision Rimfire. A Primer.
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I actually wouldnt mind just having an empty box for display. Thats gotta be some cool stuff. Old match ammo from the 60s.
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