Forums46
Topics538,717
Posts9,740,410
Members87,103
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6888598
09/15/17 08:19 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 15,588
TexFlip
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 15,588 |
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6888725
09/15/17 10:47 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,787
P_102
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,787 |
This would be great, but doubtful. Too much lost revenue and too many lost gov't. jobs. P_102.
Do not trifle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: P_102]
#6888748
09/15/17 11:19 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,697
krmitchell
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,697 |
This would be great, but doubtful. Too much lost revenue and too many lost gov't. jobs. P_102. I would agree if it was a standalone bill but being lumped in with the SHARE act I think it had a good chance.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: P_102]
#6888757
09/15/17 11:34 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6,288
scalebuster
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6,288 |
This would be great, but doubtful. Too much lost revenue and too many lost gov't. jobs. P_102. I don't think the revenue loss will be that substantial. With 1.3 million suppressors registered in the US. That's only $26 million. That's a drop In the bucket. I don't own one and never will until the government bullsht to own one is lifted. They could still charge for the tax and I'd buy one. I think there a lot of sportsmen that feel this way.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6888831
09/16/17 01:30 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,787
P_102
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,787 |
Maybe my numbers are wrong, aren't tax stamps $200 and not $20? In an article 15 months ago about SilencerCo, they were selling 18,000 suppressors a month, had 65% market share and were growing 100% every year. Using those numbers, If you run the math I think you'll find that 2017 tax revenues from the entire market should be somewhere around $150,000,000 and close to $300,000,000 in 2018 if the growth rate stays the same.
P_102
Do not trifle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6895037
09/22/17 01:55 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 877
wtjim
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 877 |
I'd pay the $200 to cash and carry, no BS
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: wtjim]
#6895524
09/22/17 05:14 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 65,548
SnakeWrangler
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 65,548 |
I'd pay the $200 to cash and carry, no BS Same here....
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6895695
09/22/17 07:45 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,843
Hunter-Steve
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,843 |
We will have to wait and see. If it passes the House vote I will get excited. But even then it could get stripped out.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6895948
09/23/17 12:29 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 698
rogerh
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 698 |
Keep your fingers crossed
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: wtjim]
#6896097
09/23/17 02:54 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
syncerus
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519 |
I'd pay the $200 to cash and carry, no BS I understand and sympathize with your view, but suppressors, stripped of Hollywood BS, are simply **safety** devices that reduce noise output by 30 db and nothing more. Having them on the NFA is irrational and is based on factual misinformation. Look, how many people have you met **in person** who have had hearing damaged caused by firearms? For me, the number is well over 100, and probably over 200. Firearms are a serious danger to hearing and suppressors are the best way to reduce the epidemic of hearing damage within the shooting community.
NRA Patriot Benefactor & DSC Lifer
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
#6896789
09/24/17 01:28 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,697
krmitchell
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 4,697 |
I'd pay the $200 to cash and carry, no BS Same here.... I've been willing to compromise on that for years. I'll put up the money but I want to walk out the door with it that day.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: syncerus]
#6908220
10/04/17 04:19 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,663
Dustnsand
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,663 |
I'd pay the $200 to cash and carry, no BS I understand and sympathize with your view, but suppressors, stripped of Hollywood BS, are simply **safety** devices that reduce noise output by 30 db and nothing more. Having them on the NFA is irrational and is based on factual misinformation. Look, how many people have you met **in person** who have had hearing damaged caused by firearms? For me, the number is well over 100, and probably over 200. Firearms are a serious danger to hearing and suppressors are the best way to reduce the epidemic of hearing damage within the shooting community. No, hearing protection is. That's just a silly justification
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6908413
10/04/17 01:39 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 34,122
Buzzsaw
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 34,122 |
SPACE FOR RENT
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6908740
10/04/17 05:40 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,243
Spacemonkey
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,243 |
Yep it’s been shelved indefinitely!
They are remaining mum on national retroprocity. My bet is it will die too!
Last edited by Spacemonkey; 10/04/17 05:42 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6909920
10/05/17 05:18 PM
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,091
CharlieCTx
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,091 |
I wish one of the major news organizations would show a supersonic round test with and without a suppressor. It would go a long way in dispelling the myth of what everyone believes a suppressed round sounds like.
Charlie
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: DocHorton]
#6909958
10/05/17 05:51 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 270
Threelranch
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 270 |
One word " movies " is why they think they sound like they do .
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: CharlieCTx]
#6910016
10/05/17 06:27 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 65,548
SnakeWrangler
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 65,548 |
I wish one of the major news organizations would show a supersonic round test with and without a suppressor. It would go a long way in dispelling the myth of what everyone believes a suppressed round sounds like.
Charlie Why would they do that....they are the ones amplifying and advancing the agenda.....
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: SnakeWrangler]
#6916330
10/11/17 07:33 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,712
pigplinker
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,712 |
I wish one of the major news organizations would show a supersonic round test with and without a suppressor. It would go a long way in dispelling the myth of what everyone believes a suppressed round sounds like.
Charlie Why would they do that....they are the ones amplifying and advancing the agenda..... Yes they are.
|
|
|
Re: Hearing Protection Act passes first hurdle...
[Re: Dustnsand]
#6918161
10/12/17 06:55 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 121
HankTheTank
Woodsman
|
Woodsman
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 121 |
I'd pay the $200 to cash and carry, no BS I understand and sympathize with your view, but suppressors, stripped of Hollywood BS, are simply **safety** devices that reduce noise output by 30 db and nothing more. Having them on the NFA is irrational and is based on factual misinformation. Look, how many people have you met **in person** who have had hearing damaged caused by firearms? For me, the number is well over 100, and probably over 200. Firearms are a serious danger to hearing and suppressors are the best way to reduce the epidemic of hearing damage within the shooting community. No, hearing protection is. That's just a silly justification Not silly, both should be an option decided by the individual using the firearm. I wear hearing protection at the range where it is practical. In the field, I want to be able to hear what's going on around me. I want to be able to hear the birds and squirrels as they can be a good source of information and add to the enjoyment of the hunt. Not blow a hunt because I couldn't hear the deer/hog/whatever approaching from the distance or because I was fumbling with ear plugs just before taking aim and firing. I also don't want to get bit by a rattlesnake because I couldn't hear it's warning as I walk past or reach down to pick up my empties from bird hunting. As it stands now, I have to choose hearing protection or none while I hunt and I go with none for reasons above and then some. At some point I'll probably have to start yelling 'WHAT?!!!' while cupping my ears like my dad does because I opted for no protection and can't hear well. But, that's okay because by that point I will have a lot of successful hunts where I didn't get bit by the big ol' rattler. I'm a big boy who can usually take care of himself and don't need government or others telling me what's best for 'my own good'. Let me live my life and I'll deal with the consequences, good or bad.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, txcornhusker
|