Kahles are made in Austria. So there's one German manufacturer that's making a capable scope for PRS. I personally think Swarovski has the best glass in earth. With their unmatched optical quality, why aren't they dominating precision matches? I bet there's more competition shooters running scopes manufactured at the LOW plant than the entire country of Germany.

Money.

Why do you think Kevin Van Dam fishes a Nitro, or Rory Mcilroy plays Nike?

Isn't Kahles owned by Swarovski?

Not comparable. Those guys are making millions to pimp their sponsors. Show me one PRS shooter that makes real money endorsing a scope.

Hell if I know. Their website doesn't indicate it. Just that every Kahles scope is made under the same roof in Austria.

Close enough it doesn't matter as both are steps above anything low makes except maybe march. Schmidt priced themselves out of the game but are working their way back. Low scopes cost a good bit less so you're going to see more. Downsides are glass quality and qc. If in a heavy mirage boil the European glass stands out by leaps and bounds.

Yes they are and the khales will soon be rebranded a swaro according to the reps.

That makes me really want to look through a Kahles. I love Swaro glass.

They aren't the same level. Each has their highs and lows.

Cabelas in Allen has a SB and a Kahles in the case. I didn't play with them long but he kahles was pretty dang good

I'm just saying. Unless the difference is night and day, people are gonna use what's free. I know a guide who fishes the FLW Tour and uses Garmin graphs. He used to use Lowrance exclusively before he was sponsored. I can't imagine he believes the Garmin is the best. But it's free and he makes a few bucks and it's good enough to still be competitive. I would assume that's how most of the PRS shooters feel. I don't have a dog in the fight, but to believe people are making equipment decisions 100% based on the quality of the equipment is a bit naive IMHO.

There's no scope company in prs giving shooters optics. If they are sponsored there are incentives in discount below what most can pay but that's about it. Only exception would possibly be athlon but I've only ever seen one in person and it would have to be free for me to take it.

most popular does not mean the best

I am not disagreeing with you nor trying to change topics.
But are you 100% sure of this statement or only in a 200 mile radius?
And how are you certain?

Fortunate enough to shoot with some of the top sponsored shooters in the 400mile radius and they are more than willing to share intel.

The only exception could possibly team gap and their bushy elites as they are in pretty deep with them. Not sure if it would be bushy donating or gap paying for them. Only other person who might get a scope free is Shannon Kay and khales but then again he designed 2 or more of their reticles.

I was gonna bring this up too. I shoot with a PRS guy occasionally and i was surprised to find out he has to pay for his scopes. And he finished in the top 10 last season. If they're not giving free gear to the top 10, they're not giving free gear to anyone. So it's not comparable to a Bassmaster Elite pro or PGA Tour pro that have companies throwing tons of money and free gear at them. There's more incentive for a PRS shooter to use whatever they feel will help them hit targets since they're buying their own equipment.

If that's true, then I agree my comparison isn't valid. I have a much better idea of how the golf and fishing sponsorships work than the shooting ones. And in golf and fishing, you use the equipment made by whoever gives you the most money.

I know what you mean. I love Bassmaster and PGA golf too.

Know why there's so many Razors on that list?

Because the Razor guys have one on their rifle, and one in the truck as a back-up for break downs.

That's why I'm gonna buy 3 more Gen 2 PSTs to keep in the truck. Im hoping 1 out of 5 will be good enough to use.

You disappoint me.

You know me better than that. Your ATACR has me looking at scopes a little different now. I think I'd rather have 1 $3k scope than 3 $1k scopes.

I'd just like one $1k scope...

I started out with this one a couple years ago. It got me to 1000 yards with no problem.