Except that there are different levels of dealer cost. Just the same, $2,700 is lower than I know of ANY dealer selling them for.

Well guys I called the dealer back again to reconfirm XD50A and he said it is an XD50A and pulled it for me. I drove over there and back in this snow flurries and traffic is starting to stack up and a few slick spots in shadows of underpasses (saw 1 car skid and wreck). Got there and owner was out. They had the unit behind the desk brand new but it was a 38!!!

I knew it had to be too good to be true but you'd think after 2 calls asking for model verification for sure that the guys could read. The shop wasn't busy either.

Awaiting reviews of the Pulsar Trail Thermal and price points which I thinks should hit market after next week Shot Show probably about March.

Yeah I just found out last week that Flir bought Armasight for 41 million dollars. I had to send my Armasight Long Range IR illuminator back to them because it junked out on me.

I've seen a few articles mentioning this, most of which guesstimate the MSRP to be between $3-5K. THIS ARTICLE however, stated the MSRP would be $2,799.97.

It sounds interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing full specs.

The Pulsar Trail may just fit the ticket. I can wait 3 months I guess unless I get a deal I can't refuse on a XD50A.

I just stumbled across this on YouTube. UNV video of the Pulsar Trail. Pretty dang impressive if it's really going to be a sub $3k scope. It says XP-38, I wonder if there's going to be an XP-50?



Charlie

It will be a shock to the industry if they release a sub 3k 640 cored scope. Not seeing that, but I'm thinking they will continue to be the low price leader when compared to comparable products from other competitors. Add their reputation for the best customer service in the industry. What's not to like?

Agree.
The article I referenced did not mention any particular details, so I'm certainly interested in hearing what comes out of the SHOT show next week.

Yessir.... I was mainly responding to Charlie's statement, "Pretty dang impressive if it's really going to be a sub $3k scope." Just don't see a sub 3k scope with a 640 core and certainly no bigger than their 38 at that price.

It has convinced me to wait a few weeks to see that's for sure.

A shock? That looks more like an electrocution, but that is something the industry needs!

For that price, I would buy one just to have it as a spotting scope!

I will be reviewing the Pulsar Trail Tuesday at Shot....stay tuned.

Gamechanger....

Yessir...it is absolutely what the industry needs and for that price I would buy a couple just because. LOL...

Since the UNV version was a prototype, be sure to tell us if the final version has audio or not.

That is an impressive video- I will cross my fingers the production version will look that good.
I am sure we will hear more after the SHOT show next week.

BG, I got to field test the prototype Apex XD50 before the production models came out. There is no reason to believe that the quality will fall off with production. There were some minor changes with the firmware control features, IIRC correctly, but things turned out as good or better than the prototype when it came to production.

Yeah, with Pulsar I'm sure it will be as good as the prototype. They do a pretty good job of getting things worked out. I bet it has sound too. Don't get your heart set on sub 3k for a 640 core though.

Archer

See what you can find out around price given the disparity on what we've seen publishing.

Charlie

According to my buddy at Pulsar, the new trail series is gonna be a game changer. I'm supposed to find out some more on them pretty soon.

Tell him you know where a group of willing testers are located...

Charlie

We'll see. Unless they are really offering this scope at under 3K and it works properly, none of the technology described for it so far is a game changer. The description so far just sounds like they are playing catch-up with ATN, though I suspect they will do it much better. UNV's post on AR15.com just says it will be sub $5K and if so, put it squarely in ATN's neighborhood for the Thor HD 640 series.

Charlie, they have a whole pro-staff system, but I do believe you are a little late to join this year.

I talked to one of my guys at Sellmark yesterday, he is 99% sure it is not audio capable. It is rated IPX7 which is
Suitable:
•Splashes
•Rain or Snow
•Showering
•Incidental exposure to water of up to 1 meter for up to 30 minutes


With this knowledge in mind, I am GUESSING that it does not have audio capability. My solution is simple, I have a mini digital voice recorder that I have on occasions "velcroed" to my rifle or pistol, if you watch some of my videos, I do like to lay down multiple video tracks, so, adding a separate audio track in synchronous with the video from the Trail is no big deal.

As for the Pulsar trail, I do recall that my guy told me that, I think [and don't quote me yet!!..lol] there are 320/330? core and of course 640 core versions....thus the 3K - 5K pricing that has been discussed.

Game Changer? well....in my mind, the features versus the competition such as being able to ZOOM the PIP video INDEPENDENT of the non-PIP video is BIGLY...

You get the ZOOM of the PIP while still maintaining the full field of view of the non-PIP. This is for the guys who have seen and used the current Apex Thermals that still have the straight PIP.

ALSO....depending on your internet connection on your smartphone..all the software is done via a smartphone app. AND any F/W software changes/updates = BIGLY, too...

In fact...you with a 3.5 second delay can stream video "live" while you are "filming" live.

One feature that I think someone else uses..is the "money shot" as I call it..lol. As soon as you turn on the unit it starts recording [8GB onboard] which is plenty for 640x480 video quality. The recording fills the memory until it is FULL, then the oldest video starts getting pushed out/deleted/purged to make room for newer video.

....if the shot recoil is detected it saves so much video time before and after.

I am not sold on this feature yet...I like to have FULL CONTROL of the video recording, which is also available via a simple menu change.

Another nice feature, the remote control of which I dearly love on my Apex thermal is now FULLY CAPABLE to control all MENU selections [as opposed to the simple ON/OFF/Display Off, Calibrate, Black-hot/white-hot/PIP 3 button on the current models.


So many features....at SHOT I will do a duo-video setup...I'll have my big Canon video camera recording [which will capture audio] synchronized with the Pulsar Trail video. I plan on doing a FULL VIDEO REVIEW at the booth...

stay tuned...I fly from Freezing Cold Ohio to Sunny Las Vegas tomorrow morning...

Did a quick google search, found this as far as memory capacity, your mileage will vary as I do not know the Pulsar Trail's frame rate

CREDITS: I uploaded these pics from the article Pulsar Trail Thermal