Strutty's in Boerne is now carrying Double Down Deer Feed

That's right by me. I'll have to look up what it is. Price?

It's not cheap as you know. I guess I am also paying for the convenience of not having to drive to Dilly. I paid around $14.50 a bag I think.

My bud is running DD on his ranch and deer became addicted to it. It's crazy....deer eat, then go lay down for a while then back on it. And this is an area with very lush range conditions. Bud has 2 protein stations on his 300ac and since he switched to DD his deer numbers have gone way up. I know there could be other factors involved but I've never seen deer literally run to protein stations like a kid to the ice creme truck.
Darn sure something in it they really like.

I am not familiar with this feed. Is it a complete deer ration or some type of mineral?
Thanks and Adios,
Gary

It is a complete deer ration to include a mineral package,very high fat content(peanuts) and fiber (cotton seed) from what I have seen on a couple of different ranches that feed DD the body weight and antler growth is remarkable. If you are looking for a distributor in the Boerne area call Petra at Strutty's 830-981-2258 they received their first load of DD Monday and they are already out. She said she can fill your order within a couple of days notice if they are out.

20% protein
4% fat
6.5% fiber
So far no public info of nutrient / mineral content or a guaranteed analysis so it can be compared to other well known / reputable feeds.



The marketing sounds like Buck Crack in a 50lb bag.

I've been feeding it two years now it has made a very noticeable difference for us. Just be ready to dig deeper in your pocket. I fed over 90,000 worth last year compared to about 70,000 the year before we switched

DH....you not the first I've heard this from in so tex. In fact im pretty sure our manager at the HF ranch near Catarina is going to switch to it next year. I'm hearing more and more positive feedback from DD and believe me I'm a very skeptical person.

I've taken many, many photos of deer on a large place in SW Texas for several years now. The deer have added more mass and length than I thought was possible from year to year. I'm not selling the stuff and I don't care what anyone feeds but I know what I've seen and photographed!

think the record rainfall for the past two years has anything to do with it? We feed a different brand and have had awesome horn growth the past two seasons

we also saw noticeable improvement when we added cottonseed to our ranch

The ranch I'm referring to in Maverick county had 7" last year per the land owner. Not exactly a record!

I am in Maverick County and there was officially right at 38 inches of rain last year (2015) - the year before that (2014) it got 19 inches or almost three times the average - the average is 7 inches a year. I am less than 20 miles from that ranch - If that ranch only got 7 inches then its gauges need to be checked

I'll trust my eyes over an internet report everytime

no internet report - we track it in several different ways and off of actual gauges - Also know several other LO in Maverick and they all recorded the same levels - so if you really believe that a ranch in Maverick County got 7 inches total in 2015 then you keep believing that.

I'm sure the stuff is great. But I already can't justify what I spend on my little "deer field" at the home place and there's enough German blood in me that I'd have a conniption fit trying to buy it.

Big operations growing big horns for clients - I understand.

I was a little hesitant to switch my protein feed which has done pretty good over the last 10yrs to DD, but I did visit several ranches that have feed DD for several years now and I believe that DD will be an improvement to the quality of the deer on my place. I am willing to spend the extra money to see and I will keep everyone posted of my findings.

I belive you got what you said you got but I can tell the 3 different times of the year I was there last year the tanks were not full and I was eating dust from the roads

I know the owner of the ranch bordering the one you are saying got 7 inches. He keeps meticulous rainfall records - I am asking him what his ranch got in 2015 and will get back to you

Ok I just found your ranch on Farmlogs which is a very accurate rainfall site - 2014 you had 20 inches. 2015 you had 31 inches. So far this year to date you have had 11.5 inches. In a county that averages 7 inches of rain per year I would say those are pretty darn wet years

If you dont think this is accurate I will post what the neighbor tells me he got last year in his gauges as soon as he gets back to me.

Not saying DD is a bad feed - just saying that mother nature has the biggest hand by far on how deer do from year to year - and the rainfall all over south texas and maverick county last year was off the charts

I agree that rainfall is a big factor on year to year antler production. That ranch in no way is my ranch. I've never fired a shot on the place and only comment on what I see. I'm not associated with the owners and couldn't care less what people feed their deer!

Never said you owned the ranch. I know who the owners are. But careful making claims (7 inches of rain) about what a feed has done. People believe it and go spend their hard earned money on it.

My pastures are as green as they have ever been that I remember, and we have had better than 15 inches of rain since march. The rain has no affect on my deer eating or not eating protein. I keep the feeders full as best I can and the deer will go to the protein feeders before they will touch anything in the pasture. I have several plants that carry 20% protein to the wildlife and as long as my feeder's have protein in them they will pass up the native browse.

This is very interesting. So if a deer is not sleeping or laying down, they are browsing. Tell me how you know that your deer are passing up browsing and going to your feeders? Do you know how long a deer on your place is actually at a feeder versus browsing during the day? Your statement above comes across as very factual so I am curious as to how you know for a fact that your deer "will go to the feeders before they will touch anything in the pasture?"

Do I detect trolling! I have watched deer get up from being bedded down and travel better than 500 yards without every stopping to browse making there way to a gravity fed protein feeder which is free choice all day. I do spend a lot of time in the pasture as well as monitor my camera's in my feed pens. I can tell you that a deer better than 1yr of age will consume approximately 1.5 lbs. per day! you ask me how I know this, I monitor the consumption of feed in each feeder on a weekly basis divide that by 7 which is the number of days in a week. This is how long it takes the deer to empty a 600 lb. feeder. I have 4 feeders on the ranch. I do game surveys that give me an accurate count of deer on the ranch. I take the total number of deer and divide that by the total weight of feed that was consumed for that week and I come up with an approximate consumption weight per deer per day.

This post is meant for anyone monitoring that might be interested in a protein that I use, I have no vested interest in the company that manufactures DD and I pay the same as anyone else that purchases it from the feed store I use.

I am no "troll" trust me. Read some of my post. On here regularly. You are making some pretty serious claims. I am just asking legitimate questions about some statements you have made that are pretty strong. What do you suppose your deer sre doing the rest of the day when they are not at your feeders? I am guessing they are eating the natural browse

I am feeding DD on 4 ranches- total of 36,000 acres of low fence. McMullen, Refugio, and Webb county. I cannot say enough good things about this feed. A lot of people are skeptical about the feed and make negative comments because the results are unheard of. I can say that I have feed most competitors for years on HF and LF ranches and have not seen anything close to the results I am getting with DD.

Seems like the manufacturer or one of their customers would post the guaranteed analysis.

It is required on every bag so it shouldn't be hard to come by, be interesting to compare it with other well known / reputable feeds.

This thread has a bad smell to it.

Rain clearly has a much, much larger effect than anything you're feeding vs other feeds. Arguing that is just silly and gives a pretty strong impression that you have a vested reason to promote DD.

Not saying that's true, but making up an inaccurate rain amount is just weird. You can find the rainfall of a given area. It's recorded. Why just arbitrarily claim 7 inches when that's far from the truth?

The OP never mentioned rain. Another member did. Then a strangely familiar attempt at the "Socratic method" began.

It's a bag of feed, for Pete's sake.

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This is from another forum which has the lab breakdown. I do not feed Double Down just remembered seeing this.

This was also there

Thanks to the OP for the info.

This thread reminds me of that game where people sit in a circle and start a sentence whispering to each person next to them and how different the sentence and subject become once it makes it's way around the circle.

I found it very easy to google their website and request the guaranteed analysis which they sent to my email.

I never expected members to be so defensive of their current feed and so skeptical of other members opinions from their past experience with it. It's a big investment to protein feed that I would do my homework on after I hear good things about it.

To question members opinions in a way like they own the company and your relying on their experience/opinion to make your buying decision is bad form IMO. Put your big boy pants on and do some research and make your decision based on it.

Good post Pitchfork...spot on.

Thank you also Pitchfork, I wasn't trying to push anything on anyone! I was stating I am excited about a new feed I am using and would update people interested in the results as I go. Thank you Riccochet83 also for the Feed analysis. Creekrunner you are so correct, I did not mention rain, but I have seen area's of my ranch get up to an inch more than other area's of the ranch but regardless why would someone call out someone else on how much rain they got very senseless. Happy Memorial Day My Friends!

And a happy birthday to ya.

glad that is settled. Has anyone been to a good rat killin lately?

Many claims made over the past year or two about this feed doing miraculous things. I asked a fair and straight forward question - could record rainfall have anything to do with the results as opposed to the brand of feed someone puts out? Facts are that south texas and most all of texas has had significant rainfall and more than perfect range conditions over the past two and a half years and has obviously had much to do with horn improvement. Feed whatever the heck you want to feed - just seems like this should be put into perspective - carry on!

I suspect that the calcium to phosphorous ratio between 1-1 and 1.5-1 is part of the answer, to it's attractiveness. A lot of deer range is phosphorous poor causing deer to seek it out. A lot of supplements have a 2-1 ratio, while 2-1 ratio is ideal, it does little if deer aren't getting a majority of their nutrition from the supplement.

This time of year it seems that it doesn't take much for some to get their panties in a bind.

We often see claims of this or that being the cure for what ever, some have merit while others do not. like the old expression if it sounds too good to be true it probably is hold just as true now as it was when those words were put together.

I have no doubt DD is good feed for deer, lots better than some product like one product that advertise it gets deer to eat plants that they normally don't eat. If deer don't normally eat those plants there is probably a reason and why would I want deer on my place eating that.

We have been blessed or some that flooded would say cursed over the last couple years with rain above average that has helped about all the critters.

I'm going to just stick with Indian corn

Best thing for deer and they stay at the feeder longer.

I saw several young bucks get into a canoe I have at the ranch today and paddle out to one of my protein feeders filled with Double Down.

Strutty's is open on Sundays. Just picked up some corn and soybeans on my way to church. Handy. (I am NOT a paid advertiser.)

Maybe my pasture is dried out a little bit.

I had some on my place try the canoe thing, but the current in the middle of the field washed them down stream and I'll never see them again.

Can't beat mother nature. Really difficult to compare the results from last two years in most areas of the state to years prior. Results don't come in a bag and many members on the forum have proved that. On our place, we don't feed, yet the last two years has been very productive and we have seen some of the best antlers on our 2-4 year olds than we have seen in many years.

On a well managed place, there is no doubt that supplemental feed is an added tool and good to hear that this one is productive for so many.

I am still of the stance that on most leases (or should I say "average" leases), protein provides very little benefit to the overall antler growth based on what people feed, the amount they feed and the management practices of them and their neighbors. Sure doesn't hurt and works great as an attractant, but people shouldn't expect a dramatic increase just because they start feeding. Without other management practices, little difference is going to be seen.

Good example is to look at the ranches that do feed. In wet years, the protein consumption goes down and the overall antler size increases. Natural forage is going to win out. On dry years, protein consumption goes up and antler quality decreases. Biggest difference here is that the decrease is less on places that do feed and overall body condition is improved.

I am all for people feeding, but just don't buy into the idea that you can grow big bucks with a bag and I sure wouldn't discount the effects of rainfall when evaluating your results.

Good luck and thank you for the information and results

If your ranch is in bandera co you can't deliver the natural protein that maverick co does. Many brush species down there deliver 26-28% protein and it's in a form that is more digestable than any deer feed.

People get hung up on total % when it's not even digestable at those levels. The fact that we've had 3 straight years of timely and generous rains trumps any feed regimen you can artificially deliver. I never protein feed in zavala co if I get rain. Simply cannot artificially deliver the nutrients that the flora there naturally does.

I understand what you are saying therancher,I do not have the mineral in the soil that south texas has but I do have some of the same plants and tree's. I have guajillo,persimmon,blackbrush and cactus. I also have mesquite trees and oak trees that produce beans and acorns. I never said rain doesn't help all I said is that rain doesn't change the consumption amount of the protein the deer eat on my ranch.This topic was intended to provide feed back on a protein new to my ranch and how the deer developement was in comparison to a different protein I have fed for the last 10 years. The ranch is HF so my study will be controlled for the most part. I have made no attempt to sell anyone on the protein that I have chosen to use and I do believe that supplements provided to deer can out weigh what is naturally offered towards the development of a healthier digestion system and to include better antler growth.I am just a country boy having fun!

I don't know anything about the feed but I do know the folks that own Dilley Feed and Grain and they are GREAT folks and good friends. I always like to do business with folks that are honest and have a good reputation.
By the way, it is even wet up here in Menard County. Clint got married two weeks ago and said that if he knew that his taking a bride would cause record rainfall, he would have done so a long time ago.
Adios,
Gary

I have seen it rain 3" on one side of the road and the other side didn't get a drop

hell yes, I don't think they have big boy pants

opinions...just like part of the human anatomy, every one has one

Ain't that the truth.

Nunley chittim has had some of the best genetics in Texas for a along time, that ranch has produced 200" deer for well over 30years. Not so sure I'd use it as an example of a pinnacle feed product.

That's kind of like the Kerr Spike study comparing hill country spikes to Stx breeder bucks, ummm kind of a stacked deck.


I'm sure DD is a good feed, maybe even a great feed. I doubt I'd ever spend a premium for it at this time. With that said people can't help be suspicious when you connect the dots that start at Holden pasture

Absolutely BOBO, I figure that I have seen the end result to what I had fed for the last 10 yrs. and I am now hoping that maybe a different feed will offer a positive increase in antler development for my younger bucks at a faster rate. I am a firm believer in you have to have the genetics but also the ability for the deer to reach maturity and a proper diet.

Where we hunt you could go broke feeding any supplemental feed free choice. There are often 10 to 15 deer just at my feeder on any given throw. Deer density, natural forage and mineral content, genetics and age are key. Supplemental feed will add to that but if you don't have the foundation you will still not have monster bucks.

DD is intended for the more feed lot type crowd with endless $$ to spend on feed. If you are not in that group you aren't going to see any improvement to your deer here over feeding any of the other high quality but cheaper feeds. You will also have an extra 20%-+ saved in your checking account.

So Much Negativity, I choose not to stand in the soup line! I remember when I changed my dog's food about a year ago to a new product, the first bowl my dog had she must have thought she went to heaven, she guarded her bowl like no buddy's business until all the food was gone. Yep I paid more for it a bag than the previous dog food, I like to keep all my family members happy and healthy!

Have you used DD feed? If so please post facts to support your statement. Without them, your statement is worthless.

Put a fork in him, the cat is done!

I told you earlier John. This time of year somes panties get real wadded up.

I had a cow like that once, ate some hay string and had it coming out both ends. Like one of those itches you just cant scratch.

You a stalker? lol

Have any educated deer management related rebuttal or do you even have any extensive deer management experience?

You can find pricing and feed benefits via a little internet deal called google.com.

Your typical low fence deer hunter isn't going to see any huge benefits that outweigh the costs over the typical deer feeds.

Yep other parts of the lease are producing the same type deer as the DD pasture.

It maybe a great feed I don't know just think it's important that people know there is a dotted line between the lease holder of the chitman and the feed, reason why it's all Holden bucks being shown as proof.

With that said I know some guys that are seeing higher consumption rates. Which is great but those guys also are feeding cotton seed too. That makes no sense to me... Economics and want for more consumption.

99% are feeding CS to cheapen back their feed costs.... Kind of counter productive in my eyes.

I never meant for this thread to be anymore than I was going to try a different protein from what I have used for the past 10yrs to see if it would make any difference in the antler growth of the deer on my ranch in the hill country! This study is at no cost to anyone but myself. I am not pushing DD on anyone nor do I get any discount or kick back. I am not providing any other supplement in my feed pens! My feed cost has gone up 25% more per month but not all the increase is due to higher cost but also more consumption.

I personally think that DD Feed should hire you when you retire. You got more people looking into it without trying than most salesmen could working at it.

From what I have seen it is about 15-25% higher in price than other major brands is that correct?

I pay about $125.00 more a ton than what I was paying before on a different protein. I would say it is about 20% higher in cost and the consumption rate is also about 20% higher.

Thanks for the awesome google insight, I never would of known.......you did not answer a simple question; Have you used DD feed?

I have no experience with DD feed, so I would never think of giving my opinion on it.

As I stated in my last post to you, opinions and statements on products that you have never used are worthless to me. Oh let me guess, if you google it then everything you read is from proven facts and experience, right?

Speaking of educated deer management experience, do you have any you'd like to share based on the feed you use and how it compares to DD? That would be something worth reading if it's based on facts and your experience. All you did is make blanket statements saying if you use DD your part of the feedlot crowd with too much money to spend. How is that helpful insulting other members that use DD feed?

John,You see what you started and never meant too? I thought it was only me that could do that. When we going to the OST?

Sounds Good Don, I will get with you on Friday and we can set a morning next week for breakfast at the OST.

Probably be better the week after next.

Sounds good Don

I'm sorry if the term feedlot is insulting. Didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings.

Look at the ingredients in DD feed and some of the other top tx deer feeds and I don't think you will see a 20% increase in gain. Sure they use peanut base to increase consumption....it's a great marketing scheme for DD. Charge 20% more and get the deer to eat 20% more (see post above). So a huge increase in costs for what???

It's definitely a recipe for a lot of spending and making deer even more dependent on feed without a huge increase in nutrition. I think the only arguement that can be made is consumption rates are way up (my feedlot response) and that increase in antler development over the other good feeds will be very little versus the cost.

I've seen many posts on here of deer that wouldn't eat the protein feed put out or very little of it.

Do you think it would be worth the extra cost if more deer consume it more often?

I guess that depends if you budget your feed and think the benefits out weigh the costs.

I've never had consumption issues in south or west Texas. Maybe in east Texas or somewhere with low consumption rates the benefits would catch up to costs.

If everyone just went by another's opinion on anything and never made an attempt to view the positives and negatives on their own studies of a product or idea where would we be today. There is nothing wrong with questioning ones interpretation of benefit in regards to a product, but to attempt the discredit of a product because it is not what you use is a demonstration of ignorance in my opinion.

I have feed L&E, Purina, and Wheelers for years. I have never seen gains on mass/ overall inches like I have since I have been feeding DD. I respect your opinion, but I have seen the results. When a better feed comes along I will switch all of my ranches over to that feed, until then I am going to feed what I believe is the best feed on the market.

Thank you STXHO for your post, I want to see what DD can do for the deer in the Hill Country! I wouldn't spend the money that I have on a new product unless it was a controlled environment (HF) this way there will be no variance in the deer's diet.

I respect your opinion but everything we see about DD is just that opinion and marketing...

Huge rains in STX like a lot of places and no controlled study sample really throw a wrench in statements like the 40" gains some claim.

If you like it keep feeding it.

I'm not personally a fan of the secrecy of the Holden pasture involvement in the company as well as some of the crazy claims backed by zero real information.

I'll keep my $$ I save in my pocket for other projects until I see that the high costs really improve the heard by some large % that is contributed to the feed. If I see that proof heck who knows I may go spend 20% more on feed.

I respect your opinion as well. Brett and his guys have done a fine job of growing some monster low fence deer. Its impressive to me to see them pass 180s every year and "double down" to grow 200in deer. Not many hunters have the self control to do that. I have talked to Brett about his program and learned that prior to them taking the ranch there were not many big deer killed. Year round feeding combined with proper harvesting of mature deer yields you those results.

Over the last 2 years my business has leaned more towards the wildlife consulting side of the commercial hunting industry. I'll be honest, after talking with Brett and seeing what he has accomplished I have changed my management programs to head towards the direction he has went. You can't argue with results.

The feed contains nearly 1,000lbs of cotton seed and peanuts for every ton. Very high in protein and good source of fat. Most other competitors contain rice hull fillers and the protein they contain is not good digestible protein. I will agree with you that the amount of rainfall affects the horns and its not fair to give a synopsis based off a wet year. However I can say that after the rut this season my deer were still weighing 200+lbs. The body condition was incredible after the rut.

I feed DD because I believe in the feed and I have seen the results first hand. I passed 7 bucks this year over 160, these deer were on multiple low fence ranches and ages ranged from 6.5-8.5. When we get a little further in antler growth I will share the gains with the forum. This will be a good test since 2 of these ranches are in an area that receives less than 15 inches of rain each year.

STXO

Nuley Chittim has produced 200" deer before you where born.

Brett Holden has an amazing lease, with amazing genetics. PERIOD.
Double Down Feed is a revenue stream for Holden's.

Is it a good feed..sure, it's even most likey a better feed option if you are competing against high end native forage, where consumption competition is high.

But pics like this make laugh.

I cant believe that someone would believe those photos in the above post were real. But I guess many of our fellow hunters are just looking for that magic bean that will produce unbelievable bucks.

I am specifically talking about the holden pasture BOBO. Your mistaken if you think they were killing 200in deer over 25 years ago.

I believe the picture because I have seen the deer make those same results. I will have some pictures of my own once we get further along in the growing season. I don't mind sharing them.

I believe it's the same deer just not 1 year difference unless that deer was seriously ill the year before.

Even if that deer took that kind of jump that's 60" plus, you are talking about a .00001 of deer that will take that kind of jump on range conditions. In other words you are more likely to find Javi's in plentiful numbers in Refugio.

And yes Holden pasture has been producing monsters well before they had it. Quantity is management. Quality is genetics

Nothing wrong with helping a deer try to reach its full potential BOBO, I had spoken to Mr. Holden prior to my switch and never once did he try to sell me on DD and the conversation was more directed towards proper management through age, nutrition and a healthy deer density. I am very aware of the difference between Hill Country genetics and South Texas genetics but occasionally you can grow that special buck anywhere. I have grown 170 inch Hill Country Bucks that had a live weight of 225 pounds and maybe DD will help me get there a little quicker. I am a dreamer and maybe I will find that I have reached the top of the mountain with what I have or maybe I will discover that my mountain has a taller peak, wish me luck.

I've seen Mason, Llano and a few others hill country genetics taken to 190 plus, you will get there with sound management and a kind Mother Nature, I have no doubt especially since you have gotten to 170 already

That's not the issue. Nothing wrong with experimenting, just as there isn't any thing wrong with paying 18-20k a gun to hunt the chittim. My issue is someone telling me a BS line that before 2013 there where no 200" type deer on Holden pasture. That's BS at its finest. I have yet to slam DD feed, Infact said ---most likely a very good feed. I got friends feeding it, I know it's has a higher consumption rate in some of thier pastures, but consumption isnt the key to 200" deer. ya it helps but lot more to it. It should also be noted they have seen a huge increase in fawn recruitment do to rain last two years also.

When you advertise 60"plus jump as typical.... You're marketing is over riding your butt. That's hard to get done in a native genetic pen setting especially at that age level.

Put me in the its not a miracle feed category.

Where is ranchman when you need him

This one made me laugh out loud. There's always that one guy in the group that's an [censored]@@@@. Your really living up to your screen name.

I've hunted all around Refugio and have a place in Rockport. Some aren't afraid to call a spade a spade.

Javi's now the Holden pasture secret sauce. I'm still laughing at you trying to tell me that pasture had crap deer before 2013... Biggest joke I've ever heard....lots of tall windy ones from you lately.

I've been feeding it for two years now. Fed over 175 tons of it last year you can say what you want it has made a big difference in our deer. I was feeding L&E feed before fed it for about 6 years. I would not even think about going back. I'm not trying to convince anyone to feed it matter fact I would rather you didn't then I don't have to wait a couple days to week when I order (LOL) feed. I do know we have had some awesome results not saying rain has not played apart in it but I'm in a area that usually only gets about 10 inches a year. Is it worth the difference in the money to me yes to others I don't know they have to make that call.

I will start posting pictures this next week on my progress with DD

I do know this about DD feed....my bud feeding it on his place near Woodsboro and the deer about to break him in more ways than one....his wife saw the CC charges from Freer for DD and told him either the deer were gonna get cut off or he was....true story. Hmmm dear or deer?

Well, I know which one I would choose..no wait..the other one...no wait...the first one.....I think I would get a part time job to keep both.

I have been feeding it at my stand for the past 2 seasons. I added a second pen last year to try and keep my feeders full. The deer definitely love the stuff. The deer have added mass and tine length. I have a friend that started his ranch in Carta Valley on it this year and they are tearing it up there also. This place has had some rain this year and they are still hitting the feeders pretty hard. It is noce to have a few places on I-10 to pick up bags on the wayout.

We didn't change a thing feed or management wise in the past two years... yet we have had our heaviest weights and most numbers of good bucks with the best head gear we have ever seen to date. We are feeding the same 20% feed we have been for years. The difference is the last two years we have easily had 2 to 3 times the 10 year average rainfall.

IMO it takes a solid 3 years of free choice protein (20,000 pounds a month on the 3000 acres we hunt) before antlers even began to see a difference. Perhaps some of you have been building heavier animals and switched to DD just in time for the antlers to benifit?

I have fed Purina for the last 10 yrs and I feel it's as good as it was going to get. I just filled my feeders today, one week from the last fill with DD. I have never seen the consumption to be as high as it is now from the last 10 years. I viewed pictures last night from game camera's set in the feed pens and I am amazed at the amount of growth in antlers this early into the growing season but we still have a good 2 months of growing to go. Is it the feed, range condition or just healthy deer. I think all the above, but I hope to see an improvement in antlers on my mature bucks 6yrs and older who already have complete body development.

Probably a good feed but the marketing has been even better. Crazy good actually. It amazes me how many disciples/defenders of the feed there are even though it is unproven over a broad base and long term basis, including drought. One thing for sure that has been established is that the deer love it. Maybe in 5 years we will see if it is worth the money.

Can you be more specific about the difference it has made in your deer?

Looking forward to all of these pics!

What is double down feed?

I give them a very poor rating for response to customers requests. 8 days and no reply. Sorry but I have to feel that my calls for orders will be processed and delivered and 8 days to just get a quote is crazy. If they can't deliver on that, I'm not so sure I would even get the feed when I needed it.

Curtis, I am sorry to hear that! I did most my leg work because we did not have a feed store that carried DD in our area. I worked with Jason in Dilly along with the manager of Struttys in Boerne.

Curtis it's about 20% higher than what you feed now.

They can't. They just "feel" good about it because they say consumption is up. It's supposed to be a feed "supplement" not a feedlot situation....or so I thought. What they do know is they are feeding 20% more and paying 20%+ more for good marketing.

They replied to my email with a list of dealers and a guaranteed analysis the same day I requested it.

So now you have gone from being an expert on the feed that you have never used to a spokesman for all the members that have, but decided to put their experiences in your words and perspective.

Have any facts to post or just run around throwing stones??? The numbers I am posting are facts...and really a little conservative on the price difference.

Aside from the numbers that anyone can obtain and read for themselves you have insulted members for the second time in this thread posting what they know and don't know, inferring that they aren't smart enough to figure out they are just paying 20% more for good marketing. Read your post before hitting the submit button.

So posting the known facts is now insulting?

If you can't figure out the difference between posting facts and your "they" filled comment about other members then I am not gonna waste my time explaining it to you.

Thank you for responding. They still haven't responded back even after I sent another email to them yesterday. I know people have some busy days and family matters at times, so I can understand especially if its something urgent. But its nine days now, they have been contacted several times and not contacted me back. I sent another email to them just to express my concern and that I'm moving on to look at different feeds. That's all I can say for my experience with them. The cost I'm not too worried about. I also feed Purina's textured deer feed at times and that is about $15/ 50 lb bag. It's fed in harsh conditions and about a month before our short winter season to help make sure they have what they need. All I expect is a phone call or a prompt email back saying they can answer my questions about their feed, tell me how they can get some to me to try(I wouldn't mind buying about 20 bags and try it out in comparison to the Fehner Feed and Purina. Maybe its a better feed for my place, I won't know.

That would have been satisfactory to me. I didn't get that but I'm glad they responded to you.

Just wanted to make sure there were a few facts here and not just all an infomercial. Lol

Hey Curtis, I left Jason a message at Dilly Feed to get ahold of you!

Did 2cool infiltrate THF?!? good grief

Carry on, gentleman

Time will show where the cards fall... Seems like a lot of "ive been feeding it and the last two years have been tremendous" going on, when the last two years have been off the charts for native conditions. Wonder what the numbers will look like when we fall off into our next dry spell. Only time will tell, I hope this post is still around so we can see it for what it really is.