You thought pointers were less than vizslas? I've never seen a pointer more than a V.

I've seen well bred elhew go for 600. Seems like a bargain to me.

I paid $1200 for my pup. I doubt I would go much higher than that, but I have seen several puppies in the $600 range that I thought were a ripoff so $1200 seemed reasonable. I flew up to get her in Wisconsin. She came back with me in a cat crate underneath my seat and was a pretty easy drip. I gave her a benadryl before we got to the airport and she was zonked most of the time.

What do you consider well bred?

It seems as if the price has doubled in the last few years, especially on pointers. It's been mentioned that a lot of people have gotten out of the business. I paid $600 for my Honky Tonk Attitude pup. She was out of Barshoot female that was the winningest female in NSTRA of any breed. I named her Cookie. She was the fastest dog in NSTRA.

I can assure you, I have never paid $4000 for a 8 week old vizsla puppy.
My dogs are 6 and 7 years old, and the price of a well bred V pup has went up in those years. They are now $1500-$2000, but you will occasionally see them for $2500.

You can ask whatever you want for a pup. I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to pay $4K for a pointer pup. if you have the right friends you shouldn't ever have to pay anything for one.

That's the most insane price I've yet to see on a pup. You could buy a well bred Bo pup for less than 1/2 that price and I've seen multiple broke dogs out of Bo for less than $4k.

This sounds like one of those deals where the breeder may not want to really sale the pup but if you come up with this ?????? much money, you can own her. He may have a different plan for her in his mind. I know I have a really nice setter female that is only 9 months old that I would be hard pressed to sale at $4k. But if anyone wants to offer, let's deal with it and see where it goes.

Agreed!!! I've got a pup I was offered good money for that won a couple plaques for me, but I raised her and it'd take an awful lot of money to get me to give her up now. $4k would probably get someone close though! Hahaha

If it was the right pup in my breed, I would pay as much as $3.5k. Average is about $2K.

I am positive that Economics 101, chapter 1, Supply and Demand, would come up strong in your situation. That is not a bad thing. You may have a valuable commodity on your hands if you are getting that kind of prices for pups. Heck, I may even look into that breed as I am easing into retirement.

About 25 years ago I was offered and turned down an offer of 4000k for a broke 3yo female pointer. My dad said that was a day two fools met. Two weeks latter I traded her for 3 $5000 dollar cats. I fooled him.

Just bought a pup today from Don Wiggins. Whippoorwill Wild Agin male and a Lesters Snowatch female. And Sinbad thrown in a generation back. Fine breeding and a repeat breeding at that. $1000. Could have bought 4 for the price of the original pup I posted about. I believe there are 2-3K pups out there and for the right one I might jump but not 4K...................

I would call that a repeat meeting

No way I'd pay that much for a pup no matter the breeding. It's just a pup, you don't know how it will turn out. Good breeding bring the odds in your favor sure but still.

I'd pay up 1200 depending on breed and breeding.

I certainly won't pay it. But from what I read on this forum there's no shortage of people willing to pay $10,000 for a lease even in down years. Those guys will pay it

You are correct. While more breeding is happening with Spinoni in the U.S., which is not necessarily a good thing, established breeders typically have long waiting lists. Most of these breeders only have one or two females. Limited breeding certainly means limited availability. The least expensive of breeders is going to be $1.5K for a puppy with most in the $2K to $2.5K range.

I know of only one breeder located in Texas but their might be a few more that I don't know about. It is a small world in this breed and to protect the breed I hope it stays that way. Some breeders only sell to existing Spinoni owners or if they were referred. Typically you will only find out about a breeding if you are involved in the breed in some manner. Very interesting "world".

I hunted behind one of his pups last season one day.
I figured the dog was worth a ransom.
The owner has the jack and dogs are his life.

Pedigree is really important to me when buying a pup, but its still a crap shoot.

Did the dog live up to all of the hype? Was it the best dog in the field?

Agreed Bill. I know so many people that buy a pup because it was sired out of Champion So & SO. The pups I buy always have a winning FT lineage, but I want the ones that the lineage has been winning for decades, not a flash in the pan. Also, hunters put so much stock in the Sire or Stud dog. I am just the opposite. I want a well bred pup with a good sire that was bred to a female that was from one of these old winning lineages. The female or dam is the most important factor of the pups I buy. I don't buy paper. I buy the bottom side of a good bloodline. This method has served me well for years.

The bottom side of the paper is where it's at!!!

You are correct sir, the female will put 60% or more in the pups and the mother line is very very important(miticondrial DNA that only the female can pass). The 4K pup went back through HOF CH Elhew Swami to Hanna's Elhew Lou who produced two HOF CH. and probably a third in 19 time Open Ch. Elhew Hannabelle. If you don't pay attention to the pedigree you're just guessing but within the range of dogs in a given pedigree you need to choose the best individuals. Paper alone is not the answer but sure increases your odds.

The best of all is to go to a dog that has produced in the past and of course a repeat breeding has the highest odds of success.