I apologize for not following up sooner!

I just got back from the 2016 NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits in Louisville, KY.

Here is a quick video I threw together. I am heading out to sight in the ATN Thor on one of my AR15's.

Also, I'll do another side by side video tonight.

Pulsar Apex XD38A = turn the brightness control down

ATN Thor-HD = turn the contrast control up. (((if I can find that contrast control)))

OK....ATN ThOR-HD mounted on my AR15 Rifle.

***************NEWSFLASH*****************

I discovered that there is no CONTRAST CONTROL on this ATN ThOR HD Unit that I am testing..therefore, it is a MOOT POINT to try to do another side by side comparison with the Pulsar Apex units.

So the online owners manual is full featured but the scope isn't ???

This model line is the ThOR How Depressing (HD) Unit

Here is the base ATN THOR HD at about 75 yards... This is not huntable?

I am a firm believer that this is easily used up to 150 yards maybe 200 in the right conditions. For someone on a budget who cannot afford the higher end units this will do just fine up to those yardages. It is not going to be perfect but for the price it is a lot better than what is offered.

I am going off of straight feedback from those who have used them and send in photos and videos.

You make the best decision for your needs bottom line.

By a few I mean two, one of them was resolved without return, and another one had to be replaced. This unit ATN sent to the customer FIRST and had him return his once he received the new unit. Not many companies will do that with a $2000 product.

ATn is not perfect, but they take care of their customers when they do have an issue.

I wouldn't fire at that image @ 75 yards, that could be anything from an alligator to a medium size chupa.
Seriously... I remember back home they shot a guy out a tree in the basin thinking he was a bear. You can see something hot there, but that's it. I will not pull the trigger unless I'm absolutely certain it is what I expect it to be.

This is X-Sight all over again, no sound, lines on the display. I find the contrast control being listed in the manual but not the scope to be probably the worst fubar yet. Maybe next spring.

Charlie

Touchet, as you are correct about the inexperience int eh market itself. However I can 100% say that I have been 90% happy with my personal investment for my personal use. For the price point, which I could not afford other, higher end units at teh time. I do not regret, and am very happy with my purchases. Just because I am a dealer now, doe snot mean I did not have to invest my own money in my personal units that I hunt with.

Remember I was a customer first. If I was not happy with, or believed in, the product I would have never of had the desire to sell it. The THOR IS Amazing to me, although my experience is limited, I think the targeted audience is the introductory to thermal audience who does not have 4,000 to spend on a High End thermal unit. With that said I am highly confident that the average person just getting into thermal would be 100% happy with the base model THOR HD.. Now someone who has had lots of experience in high end thermals would view the base model as not much better than the seek XR (LOL).

Like I said before my description on the THOR was from user reviews from personal contacts, physically seeing it at SHOT SHOW, and other feedback from the user facebook group. My initial impression from the unit at shot was a shock and awe reaction, and I should have been more clear on that. But I stand by my personal opinion that the THOR HD is awesome for me, and the price for what you get cannot be beat. For this price point most thermal units are only for scouting, not hunting.

No Sound? There is sound on the video. But windows does not like the Video format so if you upload directly to youtube it will display the sound, or reformat the video on your computer. It is the same on the X-Sight I and II. Windows is not a fan of that video format.

Also there is no animal in that photo. It is a stand, a feeder, and a game camera.. The photo is only to show the clarity. I will get another photo soon for you

This pig is about 80 - 100 yards on base magnification.

If that's 75 yards, a coyote would look like a small white blob at 150-200 yards. Don't kid yourself. If that is 75 yards in your pic there it'd be pushing it to kill a fox or bobcat at that distance. The only senerio I see this unit being somewhat useful is if your watching a feeder 50 yards out trying to kill pigs as they come in.

That pig is 50-60 yads out. What animals are 100 -150 yards past the pig? More pigs? Cows?

The other pic I posted clearly shows a pig at 100 with no issues. 50 yards more would not be an issue.

Those are cows at about 400+ yards which is out of the realm of the base model.

Heck your shadow goes out 1/3 of the way to the pig. Do you have a 30 yard shadow?

Thank is not a shadow, as a shadow does not show up in thermal at night. That is the end of a long barrell at base magnification.

Did u kill the pig?

That's a big pig, it's bigger than the 55 gal drums at 75 yards.

Do they make this unit in a higher magnification

was with two other guys. There was another group of pigs we were hoping would come join so we would all get a shot at a pig at the same time, but no luck on that trip.



There is a kill video at 100 yards in tall grass.

[quote=dogdown23]Heck your shadow goes out 1/3 of the way to the pig. Do you have a 30 yard shadow? [/quote

How do you keep an image of the barrel out of the video?

Yes they do.. This is images from the base model that is 1999.00

This unit is the ATn Thor HD 640 Unit 5x50 zoom (Not my unit) Retails for 5999.00

A little too close to the cattle for my taste, but the picture looks better.

Nice video, love how that cow right next to the shot hog just stands there and then turns and looks at the dead hog, "what's your problem chump?"

I agree the video appears much better in that, but it should be, a larger sensor, a larger lens and higher native mag should give a better picture.

Well, you can't keep changing it up. Your original statement that I addressed said that the 1.25X was "perfect" for 150 and maybe 200. That is what you said. Now you show what I think you are saying is a feeder setup at 75 yards and ask if it is huntable? I had said that I thought about 50 yards and in was the sweet spot for that mag. Could you push it to 75 yards. Well, yes. But I am telling you that real world it ain't no daisy at that range. As soon as the sounder bolts you'll never have a chance. Luck maybe, but it will just be scatter shooting.

I wish you the best with it JT, I really do.

That question was aimed at those asking, more sarcastic than anything else. It was aimed at those who said it is not huntable at longer distances. Of course that picture is huntable and more. That picture shows how huntable the scope is at base magnification, and is even better zoomed in. I think you are reading too literally into things. The video above shows a kill at 100 yards with no issue, and 150 yards would not be a problem either.

I wish you the best of luck as well, and if you are not comfortable with hunting up to 150 yards with this magnification, then they do make it in higher magnification as well.. This is the BASE model with low magnification.