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Coyote Trapping.
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04/15/16 06:57 PM
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I believe the Yotes have run my Turkeys off, going to buy a leg trap. Any tips on baiting and placement would be much appreciated
Last edited by Stub; 04/15/16 11:46 PM.
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/16/16 02:24 PM
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Stub, there is an art to using leg holds for the most park, easier to show, then to try to explain. Trap tuning, set location, set type, scent control, stake or drag are all things to consider to do it correct and not educate a yote. What county are you in? If you are close enough, I could show you what I used to do.
Good snares may be a better option, but still come with a learning curve. Snares work great on perimeter fence lines and you can buy them "pre-loaded", or load them yourself is easy. Snares are not discriminate, so set location is critical to cut down on other animals, plus consider any neighborhood dogs.
I like a good urine post set, hard for a male to pass one and not stop to investigate the intruder. I used pure yote urine I collected, or bought from a reputable trapper/supply. Bitches will check them out as well, but males are more territorial. I like setting them on the up wind side of a trail or road they travel and find something (i.e clump of grass, rock, stick) that is already there, should look just like you found it after your trap is set. If you have a dog of your own, you can take it for a walk and she/he will find yote marking spots for you, if she/he stops, smells, then urinates, you probably are in a good spot. wait a few days and come back and make your set.
BTW, I think skunks, coons and possums are as bad, or worse on turkeys than yotes (nest eggs and very young), but just a guess. Not a very complete answer, but "stuff" to mull over.
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/17/16 03:55 AM
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Western thanks Buddy, good info. I am about 7 miles north of Jacksboro off 148 and Jamison rd. I have two leg traps to work with. If your bored next weekend and would like to show me how the ropes, I am all ears please PM me!
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/17/16 02:47 PM
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If at first you dont succeed, then skydiving is not for you..
"Don't trust everything you read on the Internet"- Abraham Lincoln Dennis
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/17/16 04:56 PM
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Check out trapperman.com. Lots of good info. Or YouTube. There is a wealth of knowledge out there on trapping. Western is right though, if you want to really up your turkey numbers you should do a whole program. Coons, skunks and oppossums do a number on th eggs and poults.
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/17/16 05:09 PM
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We had a pack fire up two nights last week, right over my back fence here at the house. I was gonna go get my hog trap, set it in my utility easement with the gate to the easement ajar, pop a couple of squirrels, open their guts and do an "African" drag along my fence and into the trap and wire them to the trigger cable. Do I have any chance of catching one or two? I know they'll get educated real quick. Dispatching them might be problematic, being a subdivision with houses all around. I do have that spear the wife gave me a few years ago, if I wanna get all primal. All suggestions appreciated. Good luck Stub.
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/18/16 09:24 PM
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I've been on a snaring binge of late. Leg hold traps, for me, take a lot of time that I don't have. The snares just go up on trails, no bait, no scent, just well used trails. I've killed 3 in the last month and the packs have stopped coming around as often. I like to listen to em, don't get me wrong, but they dang near put me out of the chicken bidness.
And I must give a hat tip to Western for getting me on em!
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/18/16 09:31 PM
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I've been working with my leg traps a while now. I have yet to get my first coyote. there is a lot to trap placement and not disturbing the area and then just waiting them out.
I've got some snares read to go now too. just haven't had a chance to put them out.
I enjoy the leg hold sets though. its an art form that I'm working on learning.
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/18/16 09:33 PM
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in anyone's experience how long does a leg trap need to be set before it can be effective?
will they ever or commonly catch in the first night? or is it more typical that they need to be set a few days? I'm at the ranch a lot, but its not often that I'm there for several days straight to let the traps hunt for an extended period. most of the time they get two nights out before I need to pull em up.
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/19/16 02:06 AM
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Erich, I have caught them a few hours after setting and some take a week or more, some sit until I am tired of checking them. A lot depends on yote density and travel and the big set/smell factor IMO Also, check them from as far away as you can, especially if you don't frequent the area. Dirt roads are nice because you can drive them like normal.
I have had traps out I could only check every other day, those I always used a drag vs staking. Almost all my traps I used have a drag now, even though I haven't set one in a few years.
As far as snares, make sure you check them by the legal time, every 36 hrs iirc
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/19/16 06:17 PM
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I probably am disturbing my sets too much. the property I'm trying to trap on is our weekend deer camp. so I'm not there but maybe once or twice a month most of the year. so I imagine that by time I make a set I've disturbed that area enough that I'd need to leave it alone for several days before the yotes felt better about it?
that and I've only got two leg traps that I'm working with. probably I'd up my odds if I had more sets working for me.
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/19/16 07:19 PM
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If you pay strong attention to smell issues, your trap is "HOT" when you walk away. Use surgical gloves when handling any of it after letting it air out, use a burlap, or canvas (small) tarp to kneel on and place all your stuff as you work the set on that tarp. Smells on a road rut/lane (where you approach and leave by) are normal to them when you have walked through and the smell isn't like you spent some time there.
Make sure your traps are set on the up wind side of the trail/road. Road intersections, are usually a gold mine and you can often set 2 close by.
If at first you dont succeed, then skydiving is not for you..
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/22/16 08:50 PM
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You can get a dozen for that price almost, pre loaded http://www.snareshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SNARE500
If at first you dont succeed, then skydiving is not for you..
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Re: Coyote Trapping.
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04/27/16 08:42 PM
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Me and my pops started running snares about 2 months ago. you can set out 10 snares in the time it takes to set 1 leg trap.
Once you get the hang of setting the snares (loop size, correct height off the ground, etc), you can really clean up the yotes. We dont set them on trails though, only on fence lines to avoid other collateral damage. It is a lot easier to determine what and where stuff is moving through the fences by the hair they leave behind on the barbs.
We have killed well over 2 dozen in 2 months on 600 acres. Actually headed out on Friday to get back on them!
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