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#6168293 - 02/03/16 04:13 PM Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks
Buzzsaw Offline
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I've been watching the TV show on Sportsman's Channel called "Long Range Reality"

about 95% of the competitors are using a chassis system for their stocks.

Are these chassis stocks the future of long-range rifle shooting????

I like them....... kinda.....but they seem "cold" compared to the "warm" McMillan or Manners.

So, what's up wid dat??? confused2
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#6168328 - 02/03/16 04:27 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Ha...and the McMillan's and Manner's seem "cold" to me compared to say Hathcock's wood on his Winchester M70...It's all a matter of perspective...nothing is ever constant but change.
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#6168333 - 02/03/16 04:30 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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The chassis are more expensive, they've seen them on TV, etc. etc..

It is possible but unlikely that the guns with chassis stocks shoot better than graphite or glass.
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#6168334 - 02/03/16 04:30 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Earl]
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Originally Posted By: Earl
Ha...and the McMillan's and Manner's seem "cold" to me compared to say Hathcock's wood on his Winchester M70...It's all a matter of perspective...nothing is ever constant but change.


Yep.

Chassis systems make sense. They don't look too bad, either. If it's not wood, doesn't make much difference.
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#6168345 - 02/03/16 04:34 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I AGREE ON WOOD


REASON I BOUGHT MY SAKO M85 BAVARIAN CARBINE. LOVE TO SNUGGLE WITH IT angel
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#6168362 - 02/03/16 04:44 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb
The chassis are more expensive, they've seen them on TV, etc. etc..

It is possible but unlikely that the guns with chassis stocks shoot better than graphite or glass.



Chassis can cost the exact same money as a composite plus bottom metal. But, yes, can cost more.

Chassis stocked rifles do not shoot any better. Put the same barreled action in either stock and it will shoot the same, provided the action is equally locked in, and the barrel always remains free-floated in any position.

As long as it takes to get a Manners of McMillan I doubt they are, or ever will be hurting for business.

Chassis vs. composite is nothing more that personal preference. I prefer composite, but I have no ill will towards chassis.
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#6168369 - 02/03/16 04:48 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb
The chassis are more expensive, they've seen them on TV, etc. etc..

It is possible but unlikely that the guns with chassis stocks shoot better than graphite or glass.



I wanted to go Manners or McMillan but the wait was too long. Never could find something in stock for my Savage. Also base cost for them were $500 to $600 plus bottom metal for mag $130 and up inched the price up. I decided to go with a MDT Chassis starting at $450 plus a AR butt stock and the chassis was in stock. Chassis was ready to drop action in and no work to it at all.
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#6168746 - 02/03/16 08:30 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: charlesb
The chassis are more expensive, they've seen them on TV, etc. etc..

It is possible but unlikely that the guns with chassis stocks shoot better than graphite or glass.



Chassis can cost the exact same money as a composite plus bottom metal. But, yes, can cost more.

Chassis stocked rifles do not shoot any better. Put the same barreled action in either stock and it will shoot the same, provided the action is equally locked in, and the barrel always remains free-floated in any position.

As long as it takes to get a Manners of McMillan I doubt they are, or ever will be hurting for business.

Chassis vs. composite is nothing more that personal preference. I prefer composite, but I have no ill will towards chassis.


I think the big reason you are seeing a lot of chassis is because of how easy it is to switch some parts from your AR15 to the chassis. Lights, bipods, a lot of the stuff that our snipers run on there AR15's will mount to the rails on a chassis and give the same feel. Plus, a lot of them fold, making storing and transport very easy. I prefer the feel of composite, chassis don't seem to fit me very well
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#6168768 - 02/03/16 08:41 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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In addition to the modularity, they seem like they would be very adjustable to fit just about any size shooter. I would like to handle one and see for myself.
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#6168813 - 02/03/16 09:12 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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#6168902 - 02/03/16 10:01 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I AGREE ON WOOD


REASON I BOUGHT MY SAKO M85 BAVARIAN CARBINE. LOVE TO SNUGGLE WITH IT angel


Don't make me do it bro.
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#6168922 - 02/03/16 10:20 PM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I AGREE ON WOOD...LOVE TO SNUGGLE WITH IT angel


FIFY, seems sig worthy, Buzz! rofl
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#6169016 - 02/04/16 02:26 AM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I think part of it has to do with the popularity of the Ruger Precision rifle. You can buy that rifle off the shelf, put a scope on it and be shooting in 1000 yard competitions. Hundreds of rings available in multiple positions on the top rail, you can also change with hand guard, grip, and stock with hundreds of other options. I'm sure drop in triggers will be out for it soon. It's a very accurate modular gun that takes AR parts. You don't have to change the entire stock if it doesn't fit you perfect.
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#6169225 - 02/04/16 08:41 AM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I still cant decide on fiberglass vs chassis. If long range competition shooters are moving to chassis systems, that doesn't necessarily mean they are better.

I've been cycling for a long time and over the years I've seen all kinds of trends. Frame material, wheel sizes, etc. Typically whatever pro racers are using and what is featured in magazines is what the general crowd gravitates to. I tend to gravitate towards practicality. I ride a steel and titanium for mountain bike....because they are strong materials that can take a beating. I ride carbon fiber for road bike....because it is lightweight and rigid.

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#6169262 - 02/04/16 09:02 AM Re: Snipers going away from plastic/glass stocks [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Once you pay to inlet and bottom metal a glass stock the chassis are not anymore expensive and sometimes cheaper.

6 one, half dozen to another.
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