Forums46
Topics538,021
Posts9,731,919
Members87,055
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
What size is considered a deer pen?
#5989479
10/22/15 09:54 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,817
TurkeyHunter
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,817 |
Surrounded by high fence. Will be interesting to see the results. Please try to avoid a brawl.
Acres
To be determined
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5989711
10/23/15 12:22 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,170
Jimbo
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,170 |
Once the fence goes up those deer become livestock!
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: Jimbo]
#5989756
10/23/15 12:50 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 673
TxHunter18
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 673 |
Once the fence goes up those deer become livestock!
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5989764
10/23/15 12:54 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,173
J.G.
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,173 |
Please try to avoid a brawl.
Yeah right...
800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5989804
10/23/15 01:19 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,561
Slow Drifter
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,561 |
A pen is a pen by definition. Good luck avoiding that brawl.
"I have no idea what WW-III will be fought with, but WW-IV will be fought with sticks and stones." A. Einstein
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5989816
10/23/15 01:27 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 334
doogie
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 334 |
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5989833
10/23/15 01:37 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,912
Simple Searcher
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,912 |
What! No option for <10 acres
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5989840
10/23/15 01:40 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 13,614
1860.colt
emoji colt.45
|
emoji colt.45
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 13,614 |
As pappy once said: When ya talk bout penmanship, mine run outa ink ...
i'm postaddic
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: Simple Searcher]
#5989850
10/23/15 01:46 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 12,547
chital_shikari
Minor in training
|
Minor in training
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 12,547 |
What! No option for <10 acres Exactly. I've seen some pretty wild ones up into 10 acres, too. Good point though, a pen is a pen, no matter how big or small. It's all about mindset and verbiage
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: chital_shikari]
#5989870
10/23/15 02:00 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,173
J.G.
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,173 |
What! No option for <10 acres Exactly. I've seen some pretty wild ones up into 10 acres, too. Good point though, a pen is a pen, no matter how big or small. It's all about mindset and verbiage I've seen crazy cattle inside a 3' wide by 20' long loading chute, too...
800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: chital_shikari]
#5989905
10/23/15 02:16 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 13,614
1860.colt
emoji colt.45
|
emoji colt.45
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 13,614 |
What! No option for <10 acres Exactly. I've seen some pretty wild ones up into 10 acres, too. Good point though, a pen is a pen, no matter how big or small. It's all about mindset and verbiage Everyone knows 50,000+ acres will produce more verbiage than 25 acres... Even in a bad drought...
i'm postaddic
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5989912
10/23/15 02:19 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,011
68A
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,011 |
I'm not a hf guy, but have no problem with them or people that choose to hunt in them. That being said I'd hardly call a 50k acre hf place a pen.
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5990074
10/23/15 07:40 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,183
Mike Honcho
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,183 |
Are you talking about soft release pen or the general term for HF haters? I say a lot has to do with terrain and how thick vegetation is. 500ac in jim hogg county doesnt hunt the same way it does in gaines or brewster county.
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5990099
10/23/15 11:01 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19,652
Pitchfork Predator
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19,652 |
Really??? All you guys that voted for any pen, how many deer have you shot in a FEEDER PEN? With your logic, it's the SAME.
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
#5990184
10/23/15 12:25 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,561
Slow Drifter
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,561 |
I'm not personally against HF hunting, just answering the question. The difference is the deer can get out of the feeder pen, it's not trapped there.
"I have no idea what WW-III will be fought with, but WW-IV will be fought with sticks and stones." A. Einstein
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
#5990195
10/23/15 12:38 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091
Nogalus Prairie
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 27,091 |
Really??? All you guys that voted for any pen, how many deer have you shot in a FEEDER PEN? With your logic, it's the SAME. No, it's not. He defined it as HF and simply asked what folks thought. Nothing confusing about it.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5990200
10/23/15 12:42 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549
redchevy
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,549 |
I have no problem with hi fence hunting. I don't care for deer breeding, breeder pens, and stocking with outside genetics. In my opinion if your doing more than feeding letting them age and selective culling then its livestock. That's my view doesn't have to be anyone else's.
It's hell eatin em live
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
#5990229
10/23/15 01:11 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19,652
Pitchfork Predator
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19,652 |
Really??? All you guys that voted for any pen, how many deer have you shot in a FEEDER PEN? With your logic, it's the SAME. No, it's not. He defined it as HF and simply asked what folks thought. Nothing confusing about it. Yes it is. Because I believe it to be. Just using the same logic.
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5990264
10/23/15 01:36 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,136
EddieWalker
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,136 |
My thought is that a pen is where you keep them in a small area, and a pasture is where you let them out to roam freely, even if it's high fenced. It needs to be a small enough area to handle, inspect or catch them easily without causing too much stress to them. Or to breed them with does you are keeping a record of.
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
#5990281
10/23/15 01:46 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,817
TurkeyHunter
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,817 |
Really??? All you guys that voted for any pen, how many deer have you shot in a FEEDER PEN? With your logic, it's the SAME. No, it's not. He defined it as HF and simply asked what folks thought. Nothing confusing about it. That's it exactly. Was wanting to get an idea of how the perception on HF size might measure out in a survey. The HF debate has been discussed on here plenty. Of course it's not scientific but it will be interesting to see how the numbers play out. So please just be calm everyone and watch how the poll turns out.
To be determined
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5990360
10/23/15 02:32 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,205
LuckyHunter
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,205 |
In the United States, the term "pen" usually describes small enclosures for holding sheep, goats, and pigs. A pen for cattle is also sometimes called a corral. A large fenced grazing area of many acres is called a "pasture," or, in some cases, "rangeland".
My conclusion is if a paddle boat is not defined as a bass boat which is not defined as a yacht which is not defined as a cruise ship which is not defined as a warship. Then one could conclude a pen is not a pasture therefore only <25 acres would apply.
Last edited by SheepHunter; 10/23/15 03:12 PM.
Lucky 7 Exotic Ranch located in Eden, Tx. Well managed self sustaining herds roaming our 3,000 acre ranch. First Class Lodging, Ranch style meals and qualified guides. 30+ species.
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5990444
10/23/15 03:23 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,773
Big_Ag
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,773 |
Some on here would conclude that once Obama (tongue in cheek) puts up a wall to secure our south and north borders, the country would be considered a deer pen.
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: chital_shikari]
#5990531
10/23/15 04:16 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,817
TurkeyHunter
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,817 |
That's what I'm attempting to asses with this poll. Trying to measure perception regarding a sensitive topic. The poll is not scientific and can subjected to all sorts of criticism. Nonetheless, the results may be interesting.
To be determined
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: doogie]
#5990555
10/23/15 04:34 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,658
Dustnsand
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,658 |
Cute but not a real quote
|
|
|
Re: What size is considered a deer pen?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#5990631
10/23/15 05:38 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,185
hook_n_line
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,185 |
How many of you would have lost a herd behind a high fence in recent floods? What about recent wildfires? Thank goodness my neighbors and I aren't high fenced. I bet a news crew would never get permission to go on a high fenced ranch and give a report of loss either. A pen is a pen.
Sometimes it's hard being me! But somebody has to do it.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|