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#5986033 - 10/20/15 04:15 PM .223 Green Tip???
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Looking at buying a few dozen boxes of this. So Green Tip is armor piercing? So is it considered FMJ? confused2
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#5986197 - 10/20/15 06:12 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Being a military round it is a non-expanding FMJ as required by the Hague Convention, but it is not "armor piercing" in the usual use of the phrase. It's not gonna' penetrate a tank.

edited to add: I think the "armor piercing" reputation may have come from the recent ban-scare of earlier this year.


Edited by Slow Drifter (10/20/15 06:14 PM)
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#5986880 - 10/21/15 06:11 AM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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"real" 62 gr. "green tip penetrator" is 5.56X45mm not .223 Remington. Might matter depending on the gun.
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#5987540 - 10/21/15 01:13 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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It has a steel core and will penetrate better than standard FMJ, but yeah, it's not going through a tank.
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#5987556 - 10/21/15 01:21 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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It will penetrate 1/4" plate steel at 300 yds. Our drill sergeants demonstrated it to us in basic training.
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#5987648 - 10/21/15 02:23 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Green tip is for killing Zombies

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#5988006 - 10/21/15 06:43 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: davidls430]
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Originally Posted By: davidls430
Green tip is for killing Zombies





...and there it is. grin
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#5988035 - 10/21/15 06:58 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: davidls430]
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Originally Posted By: davidls430
Green tip is for killing Zombies


What happens when all the people hoarding the firearms... are the one that turn into zombies. Heavily armed deranged killer infected horde.
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#5988074 - 10/21/15 07:21 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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#5988266 - 10/21/15 09:03 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Think we can sell trophy zombie hunts? I guess the biggest problem we have will be HF vs. LF zombies. They will score differently.

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#5988537 - 10/22/15 06:25 AM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Buzz, depends some on what you want. Pricey for plinking, I just stock piled for SHTF and cuz I could.
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#5988835 - 10/22/15 10:02 AM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I don't need a lot of steel core, but it's handy to have if you need to poke a hole in something a little harder than an animal. When Federal Green Tip prices went high......

I bought a bunch of ZQI branded 5.56/62gr steel core (NATO SS109)at Walmart. The cost was $9.95 per box of 30, so about $0.33/rd. It's made in Turkey by a company called MKE - a reputable company over there. Loading a mag with both the real Federal Green Tip & ZQI, I couldn't detect any shooting difference at all. Same POI at 100 yards. Certainly not an amzing price, but just low enough for target practice, without having to resort to steel cased ammo.

Twenty boxes (600 rounds) fit neatly into one those cheapo plastic Plano boxes also at Walmart.



FWIW, I also buy and shooot ZQI ammo in 9mm and 7.62x51. Been happy with all of it.

Marc


Edited by Marc Kurth (10/22/15 10:04 AM)
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#5989163 - 10/22/15 01:27 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Zombies don't carry or use weapons.
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#5989555 - 10/22/15 05:36 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Vern1]
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Originally Posted By: Vern1
Zombies don't carry or use weapons.


Not that we are aware of today.
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#5989609 - 10/22/15 06:12 PM Re: .223 Green Tip??? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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M855 ball is the green tipped 5.56 ammo. It is NOT armor piercing, and it was never supposed to be advertised as such. The penetrator is supposed to aid in defeating barriers and soft body armor, but it is not armor piercing. That would be like calling surplus 7.62x54r "armor piercing" just because it has a steel core. The God's honest truth is that regular old 7.62 NATO fmj ammo defeats barriers more effectively than 5.56 fmj with the penetrator.
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