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#5984939 - 10/19/15 10:05 PM Caliber recommendations...
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I have been very disappointed with the performance of my 300 blk against hogs. Thinking about changing calibers. I want to stick with the AR platform and will continue to use my 30 cal suppressor. Any recommendations on caliber and manufacturer?

Thanks

Lou

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#5984945 - 10/19/15 10:10 PM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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.308 is a good caliber for an AR and in 30 cal
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#5985124 - 10/20/15 05:24 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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Are you shooting super or subsonic ammo currently? Also, where are you shooting the pigs (neck, head or vitals)?

I just ordered a .300 blackout for pigs and was just curios about your experience.

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#5985191 - 10/20/15 06:52 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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.25-45 Sharps will work, but it won't be as quiet as .300 blk with subs.
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#5985230 - 10/20/15 07:21 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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I like my Blackouts, I have 2. 16" and a 10" SBR, but my go to AR is a 6.5 Grendel. And if I need the big hammer I have a .50 Beowulf. But I still enjoy hunting with the Blackout, suppressed the most! 2cents
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#5985238 - 10/20/15 07:25 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: bigjoe8565]
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Originally Posted By: bigjoe8565
Are you shooting super or subsonic ammo currently? Also, where are you shooting the pigs (neck, head or vitals)?


This would be the first questions I ask as well. Pigs are tough animals, it may be as simple as making a modification on the ammo your shooting.
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#5985254 - 10/20/15 07:40 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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Go with the 6.8.
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#5985263 - 10/20/15 07:46 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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I use a 7.62x39 and have been very pleased.

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#5985278 - 10/20/15 07:53 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: TCB]
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Originally Posted By: TCB
Originally Posted By: bigjoe8565
Are you shooting super or subsonic ammo currently? Also, where are you shooting the pigs (neck, head or vitals)?


This would be the first questions I ask as well. Pigs are tough animals, it may be as simple as making a modification on the ammo your shooting.


Good questions

As far as AR caliber choices the 300BO is great for subsonic rounds, but for hunting I want one with more thump than it offers. For more thump and range 6.5 Grendel is hard to beat.
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#5985328 - 10/20/15 08:21 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: TCB]
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Originally Posted By: TCB
Originally Posted By: bigjoe8565
Are you shooting super or subsonic ammo currently? Also, where are you shooting the pigs (neck, head or vitals)?


This would be the first questions I ask as well. Pigs are tough animals, it may be as simple as making a modification on the ammo your shooting.


Roger that. No issues whatsoever killing pigs with my blackout. Plenty of gun.

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#5985384 - 10/20/15 08:51 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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Unfortunately, you are finding out what a lot of other folks, myself included, did about the 300BO and hogs.
The 300 was not designed for this and is woefully inadequate for serious hog control.

Yeah, I know you can kill pigs with a .22 but those are prefect shot opportunities.
The ugly truth is you only get those perfect shots about 5 percent of the time.
Even with a good shot, some pigs just refuse to give up and run until they expire.

If you want 308, you gotta go with the AR10 platform and then carry that brick around.
If you want to stay with the AR15 platform, there are some good alternative calibers.
If you don't reload:
An upper in 7.62x39 works well and cheap ammo is surprisingly accurate when shot from an AR platform.
You can also get factory ammo in 6.5 Grendel, 458 Socom or 6.8.

If you do reload:
The 6.5 Grendel works well but I have no personal experience with them so can't give honest opinion.
The 458 Socom is very deadly at under 150 yards and if you buy your barrel and bolt from Tromix, it will run like a sewing machine.
My personal choice in AR15 platform after trying dozens of combinations is the 6.8x43 (SPC II) and lots of folks use a 30 cal can on these.
I have had really good luck with AR Performance barrels in 6.8.
There are some good bullet choices for hogs including 95gr TTSX and 120gr SSTs.
I have used both of these and had great luck with each.
I primarily use the 120gr SSTs now since they cost about 1/2 as much as the 95gr TTSX.
We have taken 276 pigs with the 6.8 and counting...39 were with the 95gr TTSX, the rest with 120gr SSTs.
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#5985398 - 10/20/15 08:59 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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.308 is a great caliber.
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#5985400 - 10/20/15 09:02 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: Vern1]
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Originally Posted By: Vern1
Unfortunately, you are finding out what a lot of other folks, myself included, did about the 300BO and hogs.
The 300 was not designed for this and is woefully inadequate for serious hog control.

Yeah, I know you can kill pigs with a .22 but those are prefect shot opportunities.
The ugly truth is you only get those perfect shots about 5 percent of the time.
Even with a good shot, some pigs just refuse to give up and run until they expire.

If you want 308, you gotta go with the AR10 platform and then carry that brick around.
If you want to stay with the AR15 platform, there are some good alternative calibers.
If you don't reload:
An upper in 7.62x39 works well and cheap ammo is surprisingly accurate when shot from an AR platform.
You can also get factory ammo in 6.5 Grendel, 458 Socom or 6.8.

If you do reload:
The 6.5 Grendel works well but I have no personal experience with them so can't give honest opinion.
The 458 Socom is very deadly at under 150 yards and if you buy your barrel and bolt from Tromix, it will run like a sewing machine.
My personal choice in AR15 platform after trying dozens of combinations is the 6.8x43 (SPC II) and lots of folks use a 30 cal can on these.
I have had really good luck with AR Performance barrels in 6.8.
There are some good bullet choices for hogs including 95gr TTSX and 120gr SSTs.
I have used both of these and had great luck with each.
I primarily use the 120gr SSTs now since they cost about 1/2 as much as the 95gr TTSX.
We have taken 276 pigs with the 6.8 and counting...39 were with the 95gr TTSX, the rest with 120gr SSTs.


This^
I have a .308 AR, it IS a brick, and the NV scope does not help
Would I trade for it, not a chance, I love this rifle



Edited by brucet (10/20/15 09:02 AM)

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#5985412 - 10/20/15 09:10 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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Agree with Vern1's statements. I have been doing hog eradication hunting for a couple of corn farmers for the last 4 years. I run a 6.8 and it has worked extremely well. I have not used a Grendel but know it is a capable round, just takes a longer barrel than the 6.8 to get the same performance.
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#5985486 - 10/20/15 09:57 AM Re: Caliber recommendations... [Re: BigLou]
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Unfortunately, you are finding out what a lot of other folks, myself included, did about the 300BO and hogs.
The 300 was not designed for this and is woefully inadequate for serious hog control.


LOL, what caliber was designed for hogs? I don't think any have been.
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