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Ruger RPR
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07/25/15 04:29 PM
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I just found out about these yesterday. (Yes. I do live under a rock most of the time.) Pretty slick for a factory rifle. http://www.ruger.com/micros/rpr/models.html
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/25/15 04:32 PM
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/25/15 04:33 PM
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 02:10 AM
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I have reservations about this rifle - but only time will really tell the story.
Having said that, I will note:
* It's a Ruger American action with a selection of add-ons. - For 1,200 bucks.
* The cast aluminum "lower receiver" is in two parts, like many of the Crossman pump-up air rifles. This is put forward as a manufacturing short-cut. Parts are laid in one half, then the other half holds them all (including the 'American' action) in place, once it's bolted or screwed together... - I'll stick my neck out here and wonder if loosening issues will lead to users over-torquing the bolts, with stripped threads or a cracked lower housing being a possible result.
* A folding stock makes little sense on a bolt-action rifle.
* It looks like there's a lot of plastic in the "chassis" stock. - For 1,200 dollars.
* There are many truly quality firearms that 1,200 dollars will buy. - High-end Winchester, Remington, Browning and Weatherby Vanguard rifles with nice walnut stocks - or a decent quality AR.
* I'd pay maybe 600 bucks for this, but 1,200 bucks? - I don't think so!
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 03:05 AM
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I have reservations about this rifle - but only time will really tell the story.
Having said that, I will note:
* It's a Ruger American action with a selection of add-ons. - For 1,200 bucks.
* The cast aluminum "lower receiver" is in two parts, like many of the Crossman pump-up air rifles. This is put forward as a manufacturing short-cut. Parts are laid in one half, then the other half holds them all (including the 'American' action) in place, once it's bolted or screwed together... - I'll stick my neck out here and wonder if loosening issues will lead to users over-torquing the bolts, with stripped threads or a cracked lower housing being a possible result.
* A folding stock makes little sense on a bolt-action rifle.
* It looks like there's a lot of plastic in the "chassis" stock. - For 1,200 dollars.
* There are many truly quality firearms that 1,200 dollars will buy. - High-end Winchester, Remington, Browning and Weatherby Vanguard rifles with nice walnut stocks - or a decent quality AR.
* I'd pay maybe 600 bucks for this, but 1,200 bucks? - I don't think so!
It's not 1200, street should be closer to 1000 The split receiver is not ideal but properly torqued system should have little issues. The trigger is not replaceable, I would assume to prevent the owner from taking it apart. Folding stock is to remove the bolt. If it's pointless why do most chassis offer it as an option For 1000 what stock rifle do you think comes close?
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 03:23 AM
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For 1000 what stock rifle do you think comes close?
How many are made with a Ruger American action, a split lower receiver and lots of plastic parts? Any of the bolt guns that I mentioned would be a better choice, but I'd probably go for the Weatherby Vanguard deluxe. - But that's just me. I won't pay extra for something cheap just because it looks 'tactical'.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 05:18 AM
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Time will tell with this one. I've decided to wait and see. Maybe they'll come out with one in 7mm-08. I was kind of excited about it at first, but for the kind of shooting I do it doesn't really have anything I can't live without. Besides, for $999.00 (which is what the early reports have put the street price at) I can get a short action Browning X-Bolt in 7mm-08 that'll do everything I want and need it to and be lighter (and pretty) too. I already have a White Gold Medallion in .270 Win. and she's a tack driver. We'll see.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 11:55 AM
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I agree with charles. For $1,000, I can think of a ton of other rifles I would prefer. I prefer my Savage that I paid $400 for, and it probably shoots better too. It does look like a cool rifle, but I just don't see the market for this gun at that price point.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 01:06 PM
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Pick any action you want. Add DBM, a chassis or a composite stock, extra sling studs or flush cups, ect, oh and don't forget the price of A.I. mags. And see what your bottom line comes to. The point of the folding stock is to make the rifle shorter, which saves space in transporting and storage. . How is that so hard to grasp?
This is a shooter's rifle.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 01:18 PM
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If you want to get into competitions I think this is a great starting rifle. This is not a hunters rifle.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 01:32 PM
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That's two stories now about the folding stock on a bolt-action.
What's so hard to see about how silly and unnecessary this is?
Well, it's "tactical" though, and that explains a lot... Put it down with "tactical duct tape" for triple or quadruple the price, and you'll be on the right track.
P.T. Barnum would understand.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 01:49 PM
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Eberlestock makes many different models of backpacks that have built in rifle scabbards. I have the Gunslinger II. Their packs have been employed on different continents, as well as this one, hunting men and animals alike. I can tell you that having a 26" barreled bolt action stowed in the scabbard makes for the stock protruding skyward, add tree limbs and you are snagged. If the rifle has a folding stock it will not be sticking out of the top of the pack, therefore no snag.
Transport a rifle on an ATV, not a UTV. The folding stock makes the rifle as wide, or narrower, than the ATV.
I could list several more examples, but it probably wouldn't matter. You have made up your mind that since you don't understand something then it is "silly". Same BS I see and hear about Mil scopes are only "Tacticool" yet the best shooters in the country use them for competition and hunting.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 02:15 PM
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Eberlestock makes many different models of backpacks that have built in rifle scabbards. I have the Gunslinger II. Their packs have been employed on different continents, as well as this one, hunting men and animals alike. I can tell you that having a 26" barreled bolt action stowed in the scabbard makes for the stock protruding skyward, add tree limbs and you are snagged. If the rifle has a folding stock it will not be sticking out of the top of the pack, therefore no snag.
Transport a rifle on an ATV, not a UTV. The folding stock makes the rifle as wide, or narrower, than the ATV.
I could list several more examples, but it probably wouldn't matter. You have made up your mind that since you don't understand something then it is "silly". Same BS I see and hear about Mil scopes are only "Tacticool" yet the best shooters in the country use them for competition and hunting. If all you are doing is walking to your stand and sticking the rifle out the window then I agree...it's a waste but like the fireman said...
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 03:02 PM
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So, now the 9.7-11 pound Ruger RPR is going to be a backpack rifle.
I don't think so.
These rationalizations for the folding stock on a bolt gun are going farther and farther out into left field.
And yes, silly is silly; No doubt about that.
If you look hard enough, one can come up with a theoretical use for just about anything. I'd say though, that the bottom of the barrel has been scraped clean if we are talking about ten pound backpack guns, now.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 03:39 PM
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I carried a ten pound rifle slung and in a backpack from 9000' to 11,000'. In Texas it is a piece of cake. It happens daily in the world.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 03:44 PM
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I handled one of these at the match yesterday. The action was smooth and fast. The trigger was decent but I'm not a huge fan as I don't like the accu trigger which this is similar. After that I watched dieselgeek run it out to 780 with factory Hornady ammo.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/26/15 08:28 PM
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That's two stories now about the folding stock on a bolt-action.
What's so hard to see about how silly and unnecessary this is?
Well, it's "tactical" though, and that explains a lot... Put it down with "tactical duct tape" for triple or quadruple the price, and you'll be on the right track.
P.T. Barnum would understand.
What is silly about being able to get the bolt out of the rifle without lowering the cheek piece? What is silly about being able to stow this weapon in a regular length gun case without having to remove a suppressor?
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/27/15 03:11 AM
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Y'all should do this in the original topic. This topic was started late by someone that posted before reading. I don't want one of these but I don't care if someone else does. I have already learned not everyone wants the same stuff and I'm only 40.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/27/15 04:20 AM
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Well I sure wouldn't say no if somebody wanted to give me one . I believe I would buy a CTR before the Ruger though but I like Tikkas. A Ruger fan may feel the same about Tikkas .
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/27/15 02:26 PM
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Honestly what we need to hop is that this gun and others like the Mossberg MVP hitting the mass market helps to do two thing. Improve the quality of the stuff on the market and bring the price down... Completion between builders to put more value in the gun for the dollar is ONLY good for us.
I think that this is VERY impressive for a mass produced rifle at this price point.
Also any gun consistently running 1/2 MOA groups to WAAAAYYYY out there, this has been done in every review I've seen, with factory ammunition is worth looking at.
Without any of the hassle of building... this is a huge plus fro some people. As for saying folding stock is worthless... Your just being ignorant, You may not backpack a 10lb rifle, but If I'm paying for a hunt, I'm taking the gun I have the MOST confidence in, if that is a 10+ Lber... then so be it.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/27/15 04:32 PM
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Even at 900 bux, the markup on this thing is in the ridiculous, I mean 'tactical' category.
Next we'll see an H&R Topper with a picatinny rail and a plastic pistol grip (black of course) going for 1000 dollars.
Might as well, the "market" is out there for it.
P.T. Barnum would understand and approve.
Kind regards, charlesb
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/27/15 04:41 PM
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Honestly what we need to hop is that this gun and others like the Mossberg MVP hitting the mass market helps to do two thing. Improve the quality of the stuff on the market and bring the price down... Completion between builders to put more value in the gun for the dollar is ONLY good for us.
I think that this is VERY impressive for a mass produced rifle at this price point.
Also any gun consistently running 1/2 MOA groups to WAAAAYYYY out there, this has been done in every review I've seen, with factory ammunition is worth looking at.
Without any of the hassle of building... this is a huge plus fro some people. As for saying folding stock is worthless... Your just being ignorant, You may not backpack a 10lb rifle, but If I'm paying for a hunt, I'm taking the gun I have the MOST confidence in, if that is a 10+ Lber... then so be it. ^^I could not agree more^^
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/27/15 06:25 PM
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Even at 900 bux, the markup on this thing is in the ridiculous, I mean 'tactical' category.
Next we'll see an H&R Topper with a picatinny rail and a plastic pistol grip (black of course) going for 1000 dollars.
Might as well, the "market" is out there for it.
P.T. Barnum would understand and approve.
You seem very dead set on disapproval of a rifle you have yet to even see in person. Sure it was completely designed for a particular type of shooter in general not the run of the mill hunter but it seems like it was very well thought out for it's purpose.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/27/15 06:36 PM
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Even at 900 bux, the markup on this thing is in the ridiculous, I mean 'tactical' category.
Next we'll see an H&R Topper with a picatinny rail and a plastic pistol grip (black of course) going for 1000 dollars.
Might as well, the "market" is out there for it.
P.T. Barnum would understand and approve.
You seem very dead set on disapproval of a rifle you have yet to even see in person. Sure it was completely designed for a particular type of shooter in general not the run of the mill hunter but it seems like it was very well thought out for it's purpose. He's upset about the competition, apparently. I'm sure it's okay for him to charge $3k for a $1k gun that he's smithed, but no way a factory rifle should be eligible to cost more than $100.
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Re: Ruger RPR
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07/27/15 06:44 PM
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Looks like a great gun for entry level PRS/club practical shooting matches. That game isn't easy to get in cheap to try it out just to see if you like it. I like the fact people are thinking about ways to get new shooters into any competition sport.
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