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How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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How many fawns will a buck sire during a normal breeding season?
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Catch the buck you have in question. Strap one of those breeding markers you use on sheep on the buck to see how many does were bred by him at the end of the rut. Piece of cake.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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I was reading some of the research facts on one of the South Texas ranches used that the most fawns sired by a single buck during the study was 5 and that numerous sets of twins had different sires. I could have misread it, because that seems awfully low to me. Sort of makes you think twice about letting a good one go to spread his genes around.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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IMO the key is to have more than one good buck in the herd.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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IMO the key is to have more than one good buck in the herd. X2 Everyone passes up that mature buck thinking he is gonna knock up every doe in the pasture, and that's just not the case If he bred 3 does a year from 3-6 years old he has anywhere from 9-12 fawns if 100% fawn crop. So in real life how many fawns did he really have in his life? 3-4,5-6 tops?
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks?
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks? If your bucks all look like you want them to then the does should have the same genetics. Key will always be younger does.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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lol that was very specific man
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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I've read the same research, shows 6 to 7 on the top end. B to D ratio probably has alot to do with it too. Those does will get bred. It's just a matter of how hard the bucks run to do it.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Im sure in the right environment they could take care of 20 doe pretty easy.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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In the right environment they can take care a whole lot more than 20..
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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But research said the most fawns sired by a single buck was 5. There is a lot of difference between breeding 20 does and siring 5 fawns.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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In a high deer population with high doe/buck and lots of food/cover those doe are not breeding themselves.. pretty common to see 5:1 even 8:1 ratios in Tx.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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but yes living sired fawns are going to be lower... which I think was the question meh
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks? yep - 50% of the outcome is the doe
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Im sure in the right environment they could take care of 20 doe pretty easy. Dmp pen
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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they will breed 3 to 5 does.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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You know I talked to wife about breeding with multiple does. I tried to explain it was just for sport. It did not go well...
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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they will breed 3 to 5 does. If they only breed 3 to 5 doe, how come the bucks lose so much weight at that time. Just ask'in
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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they will breed 3 to 5 does. If they only breed 3 to 5 doe, how come the bucks lose so much weight at that time. Just ask'in They can be in the chase posse on several other does. A lot of the bucks will not eat very much once the rut starts since they are moving around looking for does, checking scrapes and chasing does. IMO they need to loose weight since with less body weight they are in better shape.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks? If your bucks all look like you want them to then the does should have the same genetics. Key will always be younger does. What exactly do you mean by "Key will always be younger does."? Do you mean we should be taking younger does vs older, or take older and leave the younger? Or something else?
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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Genetics are not 100% guaranteed to carry to offspring, the doe has something to do with it also. So how do you know which doe throws good bucks? If your bucks all look like you want them to then the does should have the same genetics. Key will always be younger does. What exactly do you mean by "Key will always be younger does."? Do you mean we should be taking younger does vs older, or take older and leave the younger? Or something else? What I mean is if you like the bucks that are doing the breeding then those bucks offspring will be directly related to them. Those offspring should then be allowed to breed and reproduce. So the younger does should be more desirable. When I am shooting does under this management plan, I will make sure that any doe I shoot has a fawn by her side and not shoot does without a fawn(usually young). This way you are continuing the allow the genetics you like to breed and reproduce. The younger the doe herd the better off you will be IMO.
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Re: How Many Fawns Sired by Same Buck in a Typical Year???
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they will breed 3 to 5 does. If they only breed 3 to 5 doe, how come the bucks lose so much weight at that time. Just ask'in All the bucks in an area competing for the same does and all the running, fighting, etc. will cause the buck to lose weight. Also, if he is concentrating on breeding, he is passing up meals that he would normally partake of.
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