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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/03/15 09:13 PM
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I could be mistaken but isn't a ballistic tip nothing more than a cup and core bullet with a plastic insert instead of a lead tip?
I find it hard to believe all the horror stories about them unless they are pushed to extreme velocities The Ballistic Tips replaced the old Solid Base line of bullets about 25 years ago. When they were first introduced, Nosler made no change to the design of the core or jacket except to add the polymer tip. The tip acts as a wedge as it is pushed back into the core of the bullet. So early Ballistic Tips quickly developed a reputation for being very "soft",or explosive, and acting much like varmint bullets. Nosler has allegedly redesigned the bullets and now the boxes are marked as "Hunting" bullets or "Varmint" bullets. And the newer "Hunting" Bullets are supposed to be much less explosive.
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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/03/15 09:55 PM
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The one I shot with my 7mm was out in a draw rooting. He had dug quite a hole. I shot him with his head in the hole, not really knowing how big he was. He ran for about 30 yards on his chest before getting his legs under him. Never saw him again
I shot the largest one with my .270. Once facing me right in the chest. It took off and I hit it again. Never saw it again.
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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/04/15 12:23 AM
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I've told the story before, but...
Way back when we had the first generation of Nosler BT's, I went on a deer/hog hunt as a guest. Ranch owner said if we saw a monster hog, shoot him, but for heaven's sake don't wound him. Apparently this hog was just walking through fences like they were spider webs. So..I'm in this small ground blind when a nice 8 point showed up (turned out to have no brow tines, so it was a 6). That was sort of early in the afternoon. As it got toward dusk, small hogs showed up. Then bigger hogs showed up. Then the Godzilla of hogs showed up. Looked like a VW Bug with tusks. I had never seen anything like it. He grabbed my 6 point like it was a bag of potato chips. I guess he was gonna eat my deer. I really wondered if I had brought enough gun to this gunfight. Had a 270 with first gen 130 gr BT's. Figured go big or go home, so I shot him right behind the shoulder. Down he went. Twitched a bit and grunted, but didn't get back up. The bullet lodged in the shield on the far side of the hog. He weighed right at 400 pounds.
If you are having problems with dropping the critters, it probably isn't the fault of the bullet. Not trying to hurt your feelings, but there's nothing wrong with Nosler Ballistic Tip bullets. Look to your bullet placement as the problem. I'm about 200 or so deer into using Nosler BT's and I'm perfectly happy. Just pick your shot a bit more carefully.
They do have 'hunting' and 'varmint' BT's. If the bullet is less than 95 grains (that would be a 243 bullet) it's a varmint bullet.
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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/04/15 04:20 AM
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Recently got a gym membership, strange folks! I like to show up the roid zombies with my full motion curls with the 55lb. bells. Not their cheater short stroked light weights. It's holarious.
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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/04/15 05:03 AM
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The one I shot with my 7mm was out in a draw rooting. He had dug quite a hole. I shot him with his head in the hole, not really knowing how big he was. He ran for about 30 yards on his chest before getting his legs under him. Never saw him again
I shot the largest one with my .270. Once facing me right in the chest. It took off and I hit it again. Never saw it again. I've killed two very big hogs, one fell too a interlock under the ear the second a BT under the ear. Both from a .270 Neither pig took a single step
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Nosler Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/04/15 04:32 PM
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I like them but the real truth is shot location is what is most important.
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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/05/15 11:40 AM
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Stay off heavy bone and under 3200fps impact speeds then they are great. this
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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/05/15 04:36 PM
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Don't really hate 'em, but sure don't love 'em.
Barnes TSX and TTSX for the last 10-15 years have convinced me that I don't need to use Ballistic Tips, or other frangible pills. I like to not worry about pushing a bullet too fast, avoiding bone and/or tough angles to ensure penetration, etc.
Plenty of folks love 'em, they just aren't my number one choice in most situations.
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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/06/15 03:46 PM
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I could care less about shoulder meat so massive exit wound is no problem for me. If I cared about ever ounce of meat, I wouldn't use the ballistic tips. What I do care about is a quick death with little blood trailing. They work for me, massive exit wounds and little trailing.
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Re: Nolser Ballistic Tips.....Love 'em or hate 'em?
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04/06/15 03:59 PM
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I have tried them and I like their accuracy but I still stick with my Sierra Game King bullets. I just have guns that seem to like those bullets better. I think I get a better grouping and a kill shot with the GK over the BT. To each their own on what their guns like and what they prefer, I guess.
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