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 Re: Safety Question
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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03/21/15 06:26 PM
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The more I think about this, the more I realize what bothers me about drinking and loaded firearms. If the first try doesn't work, someone could be dead as a result of that failure.
And I use to just think of it that way looking at accident's happening. But a couple years ago I met a guy that told me about his brother being killed by another hunter on a lease they were on together. A new hunter to the lease that seemed like a nice guy until he got really intoxicated, like the Dr. Jeckel Mr Hyde thing. Apparently one night his brother got into an argument with this guy while he was the intoxicated Dr. Jeckel. Next thing he knows he's waking up to the gun shots of his brother being shot by this dude.
That was a pretty scary thought when I think of all the situations I've been in at deer camps with guys arguing with each other usually as a result of a guy being too drunk and obnoxious and somebody finally getting fed up with it. I'm glad to say it hasn't happened alot, but it has a few times in my 35 years of hunting.
Makes me understand why ranches that do guided hunts with people they don't really know put away the firearms when any alcohol is being served and can't afford for accident's to happen hunting as a result of someone drinking too much.
Pitchfork if it's bothering you this much then I think you should just make a no drinking rule. There are plenty of guys that don't drink looking for a place to hunt. Your the one that is in charge so just be up front with everyone on the issue and you shouldn't have a problem. I like to have a few beers while I hunt but I wouldn't quit hunting if I couldn't. Your the man who is trying to make it safe for everyone so if your not comfortable with it then just squash it from the get go.
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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03/21/15 06:28 PM
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If a guy throws a fit about having to wait until evening to drink, that is a pretty good sign he may not have very good control of it in the first place. Real grownups can go 12 hours without drinking just fine. If a grown up throws a fit about anything, then they aren't really grown up anyway.
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: corkys son]
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03/21/15 08:15 PM
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I think I'm going to just have the if you drink your through hunting for the day rule.
And add a rule that if you get really intoxicated you have ended the season.
Enough said.
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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03/21/15 08:51 PM
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I think I'm going to just have the if you drink your through hunting for the day rule.
And add a rule that if you get really intoxicated you have ended the season.
Enough said. 
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Re: Safety Question
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03/22/15 01:06 AM
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No drinking during daylight Hrs is a whole lot easier to deal with than trying to decide when too much is enough. As said before there are hunters to take their place if they don't like it.
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: corkys son]
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03/22/15 04:26 PM
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You said it yourself Corky.... Why not go after the 2 and leave the 12 alone?? Sounds like a few a messing it up for everyone!
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Re: Safety Question
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03/22/15 10:23 PM
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Getting chitfaced drunk is stupid in the first place. No argument here. But a couple of beers while waiting on stand, perfectly acceptable in my world. I know the two perps Pitchfork Predator was reffering to. They were chitfaced drunks. They no longer hunt the pitchfork.
Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it.
Don't text and drive.
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Re: Safety Question
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03/22/15 10:27 PM
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Getting chitfaced drunk is stupid in the first place. No argument here. But a couple of beers while waiting on stand, perfectly acceptable in my world. I know the two perps Pitchfork Predator was reffering to. They were chitfaced drunks. They no longer hunt the pitchfork. Yeah I have visited several places where the deer lease is just a place to get away from Momma and get plastered. I am frankly amazed there are not way more shooting incidents than there actually are.....
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: corkys son]
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03/22/15 10:53 PM
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If I'm handling firearms I do not drink. I expect the same from anybody hunting with me.
Not my monkeys, not my circus...
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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03/23/15 12:31 AM
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Getting chitfaced drunk is stupid in the first place. No argument here. But a couple of beers while waiting on stand, perfectly acceptable in my world. I know the two perps Pitchfork Predator was reffering to. They were chitfaced drunks. They no longer hunt the pitchfork. Yeah I have visited several places where the deer lease is just a place to get away from Momma and get plastered. I am frankly amazed there are not way more shooting incidents than there actually are..... Thats not a deer lease then!
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Re: Safety Question
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03/23/15 12:45 AM
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Getting chitfaced drunk is stupid in the first place. No argument here. But a couple of beers while waiting on stand, perfectly acceptable in my world. I know the two perps Pitchfork Predator was reffering to. They were chitfaced drunks. They no longer hunt the pitchfork. Yeah I have visited several places where the deer lease is just a place to get away from Momma and get plastered. I am frankly amazed there are not way more shooting incidents than there actually are..... Thats not a deer lease then! I agree. But there are tons of 'em.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Safety Question
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03/23/15 12:49 AM
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I sometimes will pack a beer in my back pack. It makes for a relaxing chill down while sitting after a long walk. Water is good too. I like to sit over a valley and think about old times. Key words one beer, and I hunt alone a lot and not on a deer lease. When my friend goes that likes to pack a beer we both chill together. A lot of beer and guns on a populated deer lease could get a little harry. Ive seen it. Watched 3 guys get into a shouting match over how to skin a deer while drinking. Kinda freeky and funny. Im talking about you could hear these dudes a mile away. 
Recently got a gym membership, strange folks! I like to show up the roid zombies with my full motion curls with the 55lb. bells. Not their cheater short stroked light weights. It's holarious.
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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03/23/15 12:55 AM
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Getting chitfaced drunk is stupid in the first place. No argument here. But a couple of beers while waiting on stand, perfectly acceptable in my world. I know the two perps Pitchfork Predator was reffering to. They were chitfaced drunks. They no longer hunt the pitchfork. Yeah I have visited several places where the deer lease is just a place to get away from Momma and get plastered. I am frankly amazed there are not way more shooting incidents than there actually are..... That goes to show you that drinking and safety go hand in hand! 
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: corkys son]
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03/23/15 12:58 AM
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I think most of the guys that are asses when they drink are probably asses before they start! Just my 
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Re: Safety Question
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03/23/15 04:51 AM
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I think most of the guys that are asses when they drink are probably asses before they start! Just my I will agree with that. Being intoxicated does bring out the real A..hole in a person, not always, but mostly. If a person has the propensity to be a d...head alcohol will probably intensify that.
Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it.
Don't text and drive.
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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03/23/15 04:59 AM
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Getting chitfaced drunk is stupid in the first place. No argument here. But a couple of beers while waiting on stand, perfectly acceptable in my world. I know the two perps Pitchfork Predator was reffering to. They were chitfaced drunks. They no longer hunt the pitchfork. Yeah I have visited several places where the deer lease is just a place to get away from Momma and get plastered. I am frankly amazed there are not way more shooting incidents than there actually are..... I agree.
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Re: Safety Question
[Re: corkys son]
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03/24/15 12:29 AM
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Just picture three drunk dudes at night under a street light with bloody arms and hands, and holding big knives arguing about how to skin a deer real loud like. It will make you stand back about twenty feet. 
Recently got a gym membership, strange folks! I like to show up the roid zombies with my full motion curls with the 55lb. bells. Not their cheater short stroked light weights. It's holarious.
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