Wowza. I didn't intend to kick a fire ant bed with this post.
It is good to see feed back from folks whom are farmers.

Cheers

The biggest problem with GMO is the lack of genetic diversity, basically planting mono-cultures. The earth has had GD for eons. In one lifetime we are destroying genetic variability. Weeds and insects are becoming resistant which requires more pesticide/herbicide and could lead to soil contamination requiring more fertilizer and the possibility of one pathogen wiping out complete monocultures.

Not to mention, roundup is a known carcinogen and destroys good bacteria in the gut. Bacteria that is needed to maintain good health.

Care to show us these studies that say that? I can say my opinion. All day but it doesn't mean anything unless it can be backed up factually.

Out of all the herbicides I use roundup is probably the safest. You can about drink the stuff.

If you think roundup is the devil the I guess you don't know about enlist or extendflex cotton lol

30 grams will kill a human. It is a known endocrine disrupter. It kills living things, does it not? You guys must own stock in Monsanto.

30 grams will kill a human. It is a known endocrine disrupter. It kills living things, does it not? You guys must own stock in Monsanto.

Tell me where I have discredited a legitimate study? The link gonetotexas posted tried to do that because they all said GMOs were fine.

I'm waiting..

He isn't after GMO any more... He couldn't discredit them. He is after roundup now. I'm curious what his alternative would be for herbicide

Just like he skipped right by the cross pollination thing without responding.

Roundup has not been shown to cause actual harm to people as consumers. It is much safer than most herbicides.

I wonder what his take is on BT. After all I saw it an an ingredient the other day on a organic mosquito control.

He isn't after GMO any more... He couldn't discredit them. He is after roundup now. I'm curious what his alternative would be for herbicide

I'm not deflecting attention. I do believe the farmer that sued Monsanto for harassment and trespassing and charging him with patent infringement. Guess what HE WON! Proving (at least in this case) Monsanto DOES sue for cross-pollination. THEY LOST IN COURT! He won. See the documentary, 'David vs Monsanto' or another documentary, 'The world according to Monsanto'. The latter is very hard to find because, not surprisingly, Monsanto has tried to pull the film off shelves.

Wrong.
First I'd didn't say cross pollination doesn't happen it does but not to a level that is significant again 2-3% on the extreme end. As far as suit you have to show damage. The organic case set precedent that you have to show loss. They could not show loss via the cross polilnation (pecentage wise and/or monetary loss, etc) or via Monsanto itself because they have never sued anyone for having or selling cross pollinated seed that wasn't intentionally planted.. They have only sued those that harvested seed, kept and replanted.

In the Canadian case canola harvest bushel rates are avg 1748lbs per acre. Planting is roughly 3lbs. He know which plants where cross pollinated and only keep over that seed to replant. He only need a rate .001% of cross polunation to do that.


Again you didn't read or understand the suit nor is that what was ruled. The ruling was based on the fact he purposely, knowingly and admittedly selected what he knew to by patented seed and replanted it.

His crop was found to be 98% pure patented seed, they ruled that he did infact infringe on the patent. Since he purposely sought after and keep the patent seed and thus why his crop was 98% patented plants.

Again he had a 1000 acres of it. All he needed to do(which he did) was keep 3000 pounds out of a field that produces 1,748,000lbs that's a .001 cross pollination rate. Not hard to do if you know what your looking for basically 2 acres. If he would of just sold the hybridized seed he would of been fine, but no he purposely planted it.
Infact he most likely would of been compensated by Monsanto if we would of brought it to thier attention.
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Your agruing with the wrong guy I've paid seed bills for up to 250,000lbs of seed(corn, milo, wheat, Alfafla) in one year. I have first hand experience with all the major seed companies. Also have generations of farming experience.

Again you don't re-plant patented seed. Been that way for 20 plus years.

You guys remind me of the CEO's of the tobacco industry that all said before congress,'We do not believe cigarettes are addictive". Laughable. And obviously you didn't care to even watch the trailer to 'David versus Monsanto'. Percy Schmeiser went all the way to the Canadian supreme court and beat Monsanto at their own lawsuit. I know, I know, Monsanto is only looking out for the little guy. Such an altruistic company would NEVER intentionally harm a flea...Humans, yes, fleas no. They've been sued for millions for pollution, and for false advertising about the safety of their products, stating that roundup is biodegradeable, when it is not. Anything more y'all would like to discuss? Watch the 7 second trailer on 'David versus Monsanto' then get back with me.