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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
[Re: Deerhunter61]
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02/24/15 10:05 PM
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I control my breathing very well and trigger squeeze is good. Scope is good to go and I'm relaxed. Think I just need to try out some bags and rests. Maybe a bipod and prone. I'm shooting an old Stevens 110E 30-06 grouping is just over 1" 3 round groups @100yds. I shoot my wife's ruger .270 and I get 1"@100yds. Just not on top of eachother I want the same dang hole Same hole...great goal but tough to do even with a custom rig. I've done it a few times with three bullets but only with sand bags etc and never done it with five rounds...just three rounds. They always open up on the fourth shot...lol Is there some kind of penalty for waiting on the barrel to cool down?
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
[Re: 22hemi13]
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02/24/15 10:11 PM
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Cool down?????? What I thought you just kept firing. I've seen it in the movies
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/24/15 10:14 PM
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Seems like you're doing a bunch of things right. How heavy is the trigger? Are you shooting hand loads tuned to the the rifle? What he said. Getting one inch groups is far from guaranteed but not uncommon. Factory triggers and factory ammunition are not conducive to getting tighter groups. There are exceptions, but not as many as the internet would have you believe.
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
[Re: 22hemi13]
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02/24/15 10:22 PM
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Ha sometimes I've told myself I need to quit reading forums. mostly just because they make me spend too much money
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
[Re: 22hemi13]
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02/24/15 11:05 PM
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Ha sometimes I've told myself I need to quit reading forums. mostly just because they make me spend too much money I've been told I'm guilty of causing that...
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
[Re: J.G.]
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02/24/15 11:28 PM
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Ha sometimes I've told myself I need to quit reading forums. mostly just because they make me spend too much money I've been told I'm guilty of causing that... You're public enemy #1 as far as getting people to spend more but that's because quality costs money. It sucks because I know you're always right too. Doh!
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
[Re: 22hemi13]
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02/24/15 11:28 PM
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Oh ya, buddy ol pal!
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/24/15 11:32 PM
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Ha sometimes I've told myself I need to quit reading forums. mostly just because they make me spend too much money I've been told I'm guilty of causing that... You're public enemy #1 as far as getting people to spend more but that's because quality costs money. It sucks because I know you're always right too. Doh! 6 months ago, I had little desire to build a long range rifle.
The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference. -George Washington
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
[Re: 22hemi13]
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02/24/15 11:40 PM
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6 months ago, ok maybe a year ago, ok maybe 2 years ago I had no idea what it took to get a bullet to go long distance accurately and consistently. I thought my sporter 700 in 270 would cover everything. Little did I know of the whoooole world of shooting that was beyond that. I'm not actively in it and I've been addicted to at least reading and dreaming about it.
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/25/15 12:49 AM
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/25/15 12:51 AM
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It's not your fault. I do this kind of thing every few years. Find a new hobby and spend a bunch of money. But I've been shooting my whole life, so I expect this hobby is here to stay.
The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference. -George Washington
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
[Re: 22hemi13]
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02/27/15 01:57 AM
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This is at 100 yards, 4x scope, using a big front bag and a sand sock under the rear off a picnic table. I like a sand sock because you can make very fine elevation adjustments by just squeezing your non-trigger hand. I shot for the black first, four rounds, and wanted it 1" high at a hundred. I think I got pretty close to that. I don't like sleds much. [/URL]
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/27/15 02:00 AM
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Very impressive for 4X !
Or heck, any magnification.
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/27/15 02:05 AM
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Thank you, sir. I strung'em a bit vertically but managed to do my part I guess.
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/27/15 02:17 AM
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That's a small point of aim, must've had a fine reticle. Looks like that's a 3/8" group on the black. I'll take that any day!
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/27/15 03:09 PM
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Oh there's the grouping I want. Thanks now I'm all mad at myself again
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Re: Tight grouping without sled or bench?
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02/27/15 04:02 PM
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I try to shoot just like I hunt.....so bipod or bag on front and bag on rear. No sled and never prone because I never hunt that way.
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