My wife says, "Tell that to the brat that rubbed his nose in it. We can tell him to be a good friend and preach all day, but I can't control the other kids' mouth. Even if he didn't na-na about it, we don't dislike high fence because it makes my kid feel bad, we dislike it because of the standard for an easy route that it sets. Pay the man and get your deer, son. Don't work for it, don't make an effort. Just throw some money at it. We don't cultivate jealousy in my house, we cultivate hard work." She digresses. As for the $15,000 offer, I don't care to take it out on the natives. They didn't do anything wrong.

Everybody has a different level of what they consider acceptable.
I do not know a single person that goes out in the woods with a weapon that he made from what he found in the woods. I watched a show once that had a guy that claimed he did, but he made the bow and arrows in his shop with modern tools and electricity. Even our native Indians stepped up to steel arrow heads and rifles as soon as they could.
I met a guy at the archery counter at Bass Pro that had the guts to say that I was "cheating" when I used my rifle. But his compound bow looked like something from the Transformers movie. It had lasers, pulleys, and gizmos all over it. I told him that he needed a stick and string.
This is where the LF purist comes in. They simply have a different expectation of hunting (and it almost always involves a gun and a feeder). And many are not really educated on HFs. They are usually screaming "pen raised." Thinking this applies to all HFs, not so.
And although all HFers I know put up their fence because of irresponsible LF hunters, I also know that that doesn't apply to all LFers.

Deer hunting is fun stuff. I like it so much I work in the off season and hunt during the hunting season. Those 160 and up class bucks normally take all season to kill if your lucky enough to find one. You have to do a lot of scouting for deer sign and actual deer sightings. I rarely can find a few pairs of shoes that can make it through the season. I my self have killed several bucks over 160 in East Texas and it didn't happen in just a few days. I probably average about 100 evenings in the woods per year scouting and hunting, and a few morning hunts if the weather is right. I guess you could say it is hard work if you want to go big. Seems like when I do finally have a run in with a big one, its after Christmas, its cold outside and they're either chasin that secondary doe or on a non browse feeding pattern like some form of grass and are hungry enough to make a showing. I've got to be honest I never saw ten of my biggest deer that I've killed until the day I shot them. The real big ones make a of lot good deer sign, but never a lot of hey look at me. I don't use trail cameras, they take away the wondering what he looks like and when he comes out, its just me, him, and me trying hold my composure enough to make the clean kill. And that's the real deal baby. Hearts a poundin and my body is a shakin. Not really bashin anybodys livelihood, hf just aint my thang.

Come on TT. We can get this to 20 pages.

Come on TT. We can get this to 20 pages.

You must have itty bitty yankee style pages. Here in Texas everything is bigger.

I don't know if y'all have self esteem issues or it's pure petty jealousy.

Maybe but if you have a better answer for the motivation of those to belittle the legal means and methods of other hunters I am willing to consider it.

Pretty much ruined anything else you had to say.

I'm not wild about HF hunting but I'm certainly not against it either. As long as it is legal I don't care what care what folks do on their land. Why worry about others opinions? Hunt the way you choose.

I'm not wild about HF hunting but I'm certainly not against it either. As long as it is legal I don't care what care what folks do on their land. Why worry about others opinions? Hunt the way you choose.

Perfect.

Hey passthru, If I want to, and if I get invited to go on a meat hunt I will go, but I'm really not into the doe and young buck killin. It makes me feel a little guilty. I don't know what it is about it, but I know that a young buck disserves a good long life in the woods and an old doe that is still ploppin out them babies is hard for me to shoot. Where I hunt there isn't exactly a population problem. There's times I don't even see a deer on a hunt. Them meat hunters can have it. There's enough meat in mature buck for me. Saying all this I did get invited to go on a meat hunt a couple a years ago. We were at camp and decided to hunt each end of the public land by a lake. The duck hunters were blastin something fearse, sounded like war. We were doing a morning hunt and it was nice and crispy. My buddy left the camp and said are you even going? I said maybe, but yes I was going to go I just was jacking with him. I knew that with the frost that the deer would wait until the sun came up to move. That's an old Arkansas trick. He left out and I waited for that dim light to appear. I struck out and found where two old logging roads intersected and sat by a tree. The sun came up and the deer were on the move. I ended up shooting a doe and a spike just like the book said I could. I tagged them and covered them up with leaves and some clothing that was closest to my skin to detour coyotes. I walked back to camp and laid back down and waited. My friend showed up and said, DID YOU EVEN GO? I said yes I've got two of them layin in the woods and I covered them up with leaves. He said [censored]. I said no, no [censored]. He had no luck on his hunt. He said he pushed them out when he walked in on them in the dark, so we left camp and retrieved the deer. they were several hundred yards away. so we had a heavy tote. I carried the spike on my shoulders and he got the doe. It was a fun hunt, but I did feel guilty about killin that 1 1/2 year old spike and doe.