Forums46
Topics538,081
Posts9,732,777
Members87,065
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
#5490011
12/21/14 02:29 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,231
dredd
OP
Pro Tracker
|
OP
Pro Tracker
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,231 |
Getting some .223 ready for next weekend and got to thinking...
How many folks lube the inside of their case necks when sizing?
I always have. (Only been reloading about 5 years)
I got to wondering if this was another one of those Crimp / Don't Crimp arguments.
I like the Hornady Unique Case Lube. I use a Q-Tip and swab/swirl the inside of the neck.
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490026
12/21/14 02:37 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,173
J.G.
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,173 |
Have FL sized thousands upon thousands of pieces of rifle brass and have never once lubed the inside of the neck. I use the same case lube as you by the way.
If it would make you feel better, and if you have a bench grinder, you can polish the expander ball. Cotton buffing wheel and some polishing compound. It'll make the steel shine like chrome. Slick as a VS model's azz.
800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490032
12/21/14 02:42 AM
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,225
papa45
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,225 |
I also use a Q-tip, but only lube about every third or fourth case to keep the expander ball lubed just a little. If it gets too dry or dirty, it will stretch the neck and shoulder upon exit.
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490036
12/21/14 02:45 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,199
tth_40
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,199 |
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490038
12/21/14 02:46 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,231
dredd
OP
Pro Tracker
|
OP
Pro Tracker
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,231 |
I do have a bench mounted cotton buffing wheel & compound. Got it a couple of weeks ago to bring an RCBS Uniflow Measurer with both metering barrels back to life that was given to me. Everything had patina :-( Cotton wheel did wonders.
Thank you for the great suggestion!!!
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490064
12/21/14 03:10 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,975
jbd76266
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,975 |
Imperial dry neck lube. Stuff is great
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490070
12/21/14 03:13 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,950
daniel1381
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,950 |
"From my cold dead hands"
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
Benjamin Franklin
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490074
12/21/14 03:14 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,515
kmon11
junior
|
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,515 |
Always lube the inside of the case mouths, tried it years ago with the 7mm-08 and got one more loading before trimming than without the lube, so figure it lessens case trimming and extends case life with less stretching. YMMV
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490078
12/21/14 03:17 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,231
dredd
OP
Pro Tracker
|
OP
Pro Tracker
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,231 |
Okay... I polished it up.
Would you mind swinging by with a VS Model or two so I can do a proper comparison?
:-)
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490099
12/21/14 03:28 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,950
daniel1381
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,950 |
Okay... I polished it up.
Would you mind swinging by with a VS Model or two so I can do a proper comparison?
:-)
If thats the case im doing mine as well
"From my cold dead hands"
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
Benjamin Franklin
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490160
12/21/14 04:13 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,173
J.G.
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,173 |
Okay... I polished it up.
Would you mind swinging by with a VS Model or two so I can do a proper comparison?
:-)
If I had one here with me I wouldn't be posting on the THF. Prolly would have a pissed off tied up wife too.
800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490163
12/21/14 04:20 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,950
daniel1381
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,950 |
Lol bet u start using the lube
"From my cold dead hands"
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."
Benjamin Franklin
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490168
12/21/14 04:25 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 22,630
Cast
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 22,630 |
I use a lanolin alcohol spray that I mix up. I spray from two angles and some gets in the case mouths.
Cast I have a short attention spa
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490319
12/21/14 09:40 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 13,415
jdk1985
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 13,415 |
Best reloading thread we have had in awhile!
Instagram @justinkingwoodworking
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490332
12/21/14 11:21 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 31
Trouble_Shooter
Light Foot
|
Light Foot
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 31 |
I prefer if I have the time to use the lanolin spray and let them dry. But if I'm in the middle of a run and the cases start to "drag" over the ball I have some locksmiths graphite on hand. Dip the case mouth in that and it's like...you get the idea.
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490334
12/21/14 11:34 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 22,630
Cast
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 22,630 |
I use 99% alcohol so it dries quickly and leaves the lanolin behind. No waiting.
Cast I have a short attention spa
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490407
12/21/14 01:28 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,219
dee
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,219 |
I use unique and run just a minuscule amount on the neck when lubing the cases.
"A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends on the character of the user" Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490530
12/21/14 03:24 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,469
vanguard
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,469 |
always have, expander ball slides out much easier lessens the chance of unsizing the case you just resized. i use imperial sizing wax best stuff there is bar none, one can would prolly last me my life time. stuff is slicker than snot on a doorknob smeared with greased owl dung
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5490808
12/21/14 06:59 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 148
sevensixtytwo
Woodsman
|
Woodsman
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 148 |
I use hornady one shot spray lube for everything that isn't military brass. It's not slick enough for military brass for me. But it lubes up everything in a hurry.
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5500118
12/26/14 12:03 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,057
fishhuntgolfgeek
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,057 |
Yup...when resizing I lube the case necks. Started doing this when I saw some damage (stretch) on the brass necks.
Live Free or Die...
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5500129
12/26/14 12:32 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,340
Dave Davidson
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,340 |
I used to do it, quit, and restarted very lightly lubing when I permanently stuck a case in a die.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: Dave Davidson]
#5500141
12/26/14 12:56 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,200
dawaba
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,200 |
I spray the case mouths, necks and bodies all in one circular pass with Hornady One Shot.
If you do stick a case in a die and rip off the rim, all is not lost. Use a 1/4"x20 tap to cut threads into the base of the stuck case after drilling out the primer hole with the appropriate drill bit. Then find a nut for a half-inch bolt. The inside diameter of the 1/2" nut is bigger than the base of the case (usually) and smaller than the base of the FL die (depending on the cartridge that's stuck, you may need to get creative in scrounging the right size nut, but 1/2" will usually work).
Next, get a 1/4"x20 bolt of say 2-3" long. Then thread a 1/4" nut on the bolt, followed by a 1/4" fender washer, followed by your 1/2" nut from above. Now thread the contraption into the bottom of the stuck case that you've previously tapped. Using two crescent wrenches, hold the 1/4" bolt head with one wrench while you advance the 1/4 nut with the other. The 1/2" nut will serve as a deadman and allow you to extract the case with no damage to the die.
This task will take 30-60 minutes and will fill you with a resolve to properly lube your cases in the future. It sure did for me.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple.....and wrong." H. L. Mencken
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5500235
12/26/14 02:30 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,340
Dave Davidson
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,340 |
dawaba, I'm going to read that about 15 times until I really understand it. Then I expect I'll try it. I haven't ripped off the rim. It's still attached. I have noting to lose.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dawaba]
#5500269
12/26/14 02:54 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,219
dee
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,219 |
I spray the case mouths, necks and bodies all in one circular pass with Hornady One Shot.
If you do stick a case in a die and rip off the rim, all is not lost. Use a 1/4"x20 tap to cut threads into the base of the stuck case after drilling out the primer hole with the appropriate drill bit. Then find a nut for a half-inch bolt. The inside diameter of the 1/2" nut is bigger than the base of the case (usually) and smaller than the base of the FL die (depending on the cartridge that's stuck, you may need to get creative in scrounging the right size nut, but 1/2" will usually work).
Next, get a 1/4"x20 bolt of say 2-3" long. Then thread a 1/4" nut on the bolt, followed by a 1/4" fender washer, followed by your 1/2" nut from above. Now thread the contraption into the bottom of the stuck case that you've previously tapped. Using two crescent wrenches, hold the 1/4" bolt head with one wrench while you advance the 1/4 nut with the other. The 1/2" nut will serve as a deadman and allow you to extract the case with no damage to the die.
This task will take 30-60 minutes and will fill you with a resolve to properly lube your cases in the future. It sure did for me. I have done something very similar but just attached a slide hammer to the 1/4" bolt. After a tap or two bolt and case come right out.
"A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends on the character of the user" Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
Re: Lubing Inside of Case Necks?
[Re: dredd]
#5500284
12/26/14 03:09 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,639
DStroud
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,639 |
Or you could go to Cabelas and get a RCBS stuck case remover that comes with the above mentioned materials about 20.00
"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."
Jack O'Connor 1963
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|