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#5443885 - 11/26/14 02:36 AM long range magnum cartridge
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Having to change cartridges mid build on a custom. Gotta be long action and magnum bolt face. I already have a bartlein .284 barrel but don't mind getting another. Hunting rifle capable of knocking down everything from moose to bear at distance. Not concerned with factory ammo or component pricing so I'm open to wildcat suggestions. What would you go with and why


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#5443990 - 11/26/14 07:20 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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338 win mag if moose and bear size stuff is the goal.
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#5444025 - 11/26/14 07:39 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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To use the barrel 7 STW... If you're bound and determined to do something different, 338 Ultra.


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#5444234 - 11/26/14 09:26 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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The rifles main use will be whitetail and elk. My goal is to build one rifle that i enjoy shooting, that will kill anything I may find myself hunting.
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#5444257 - 11/26/14 09:36 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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First, what's "long range"? 300 yards, 500, 800? This answer can determine what may be "best" for you. To me and the NRA's definition is 600 yards and out. So, beyond 600 yards, the 338 WM would not be as effective as a 300 WM, since it's moving much slower with lower BC bullets. The 300WM has a good offering of heavy, high BC bullets. I would hunt anything in N America with my 300WM with a 208 A-max, 225 BTHP, 210 VLD, 230 Hybrid bullet. I like heavy bullets. There is a noticeable increase of energy hitting steel with a 190 grain to a 208 A-max to a 225 BTHP or 230 Berger. The energy is much more noticeable with the heavy bullets, especially 600 plus. My vote is easy- 300 WM.
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#5444295 - 11/26/14 10:02 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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As far as range, I want the rifle to be effective to a minimum of 500 yds. I will regularly take it out to 1k at the range. Good info so far


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#5444300 - 11/26/14 10:04 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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Oops I missed the long range part. Yeah I would probably have to go with chad and say plain ole vanilla 300 wm.
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#5444350 - 11/26/14 10:32 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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7mm rem mag, 7mm SAUM,7mm-300wm, 7mm lrm, 7mm-26 Nosler or 7mm Mashburn
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#5444354 - 11/26/14 10:36 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
First, what's "long range"? 300 yards, 500, 800? This answer can determine what may be "best" for you. To me and the NRA's definition is 600 yards and out. So, beyond 600 yards, the 338 WM would not be as effective as a 300 WM, since it's moving much slower with lower BC bullets. The 300WM has a good offering of heavy, high BC bullets. I would hunt anything in N America with my 300WM with a 208 A-max, 225 BTHP, 210 VLD, 230 Hybrid bullet. I like heavy bullets. There is a noticeable increase of energy hitting steel with a 190 grain to a 208 A-max to a 225 BTHP or 230 Berger. The energy is much more noticeable with the heavy bullets, especially 600 plus. My vote is easy- 300 WM.


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#5444355 - 11/26/14 10:36 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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The answer to this is always a 300 Win Mag 1:11" or 1:10", or a 7 Rem Mag with a 1:9" twist, or 1:8.5"

Chad's right about the 300.

I have the 7 Rem Mag pushing 180 Bergers at 3k out of the muzzle. It hits just as hard as the 300 at some distances. I'm with Chad I like heavy, high BC bullets. "Flat shooting" is not in my vocabulary.
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#5444376 - 11/26/14 10:49 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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I have been looking hard at the 7s but there seems to be a lack of heavy bonded bullets. I was going with the 7mm LRM and backed off because of the case neck tension issues and pre formed crap brass they offer.
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#5444430 - 11/26/14 11:17 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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Long range Accubonds, jlk makes a bonded bullet as well. There is also the Swift Sirocco II.

Why do you want a bonded bullet for long range? Most c&c bullets work great at the lower velocities obtained at distance.
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#5444449 - 11/26/14 11:26 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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I want the heavier bonded bullets for hunting larger game. I took a look at the 175gr LR Accubond but it doesn't seem like they are readily availible. I should note that I plan on developing two rounds for this rifle. One for smaller thin skinned game and one for larger game.
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#5444467 - 11/26/14 11:42 AM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: P & Y]
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Hey nothing wrong with a 7mm mag, I tend to like it better than a 300 win mag, if you go 30 go with the weatherby. 7mm mag will kill anything this side of the pond with ease. 7 STW if you want to shoot any of the 180 grain offerings and shoot 700 to 800 yards +. what is your twist on your 7mm barrel? Stick with the barrel you have, go vanilla 7mm mag, and go hunting! No deer, or elk will know the difference between a 168 grain 7mm or a 180 grain 30 cal.

If you divide to go up, go to 338...RUM or 340 weatherby, it's worth it.

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#5444543 - 11/26/14 12:48 PM Re: best LA Mag bolt face cartridge [Re: 505ed]
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FYI. A good friend of mine has a 7 STW and it's not pushing a 180 gr VLD any faster than my 7 Rem Mag. But my brass is easier to come by.
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