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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 05:45 AM
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Nice, waiting for video just add dvr IR light will work as well but not be visible except from source dull glow if you need to be less noticeable.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 11:43 AM
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Excellent work and description of parts HornSlayer -
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 01:21 PM
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There is an IR filter on top of the ccd. It gets removed to open up the ccd to ir light.
I'll get some better pics this weekend using a 940mn light sorce and 100mm lens.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 02:01 PM
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What is the range on this? 100 / 200?
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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On a moonlight nite its good out to 200 yards. Otherwise it's only limitation is the illumination used. I can easy target stuff out to 300' with the green laser light, 200' with the Nebo Red Protec light. I have a cheap 940nm light that has no zoom and it does ok at 100'. This is on a high powered 25 caliber airgun so my working distance is really maxed out at 200'.
Not sure how the lens would hold-up to a powder burner. If there are any engineers on the board they might be able to estimate the joules from a .308 round on the lens.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 03:28 PM
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 04:41 PM
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.308 joules on a 150 gr round is about 3600. Free recoil is more like 35j, depending on variables. From what limited information I have seen, scope manufacturers are interested in the joules of the round for calculation purposes.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 08:01 PM
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 09:51 PM
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Using such a bright light wouldn't it be better to just use a light and day scope ?
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/07/13 11:18 PM
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I guess your talking about the Green Laser? I agree and that is exactly what I used before building this rig. The red led and the 940nm light do not lend themselves to a day scope. The green laser flashlight is visible to cats and dogs but not hogs from what I can tell. The red light is somewhat noticeable to deer, and coons but not enough to chase them off. The 940nm is invisible but its range is short. I have been looking at the Pulsar 940, are there any others out there that are reasonably priced?
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/08/13 01:07 AM
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Lots of DIY going on in the UK. That is where Roland got a lot of his ideas. I don't remember Roland using this camera. He seems to like the EJ230. I've got a EJ230 and Watec 910 I have been working on here. I'm glad to see some DIY stuff popping up here.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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I used a box camera to have a platform for the illumination and to eliminate milling the camera body face. Box cameras come pre-fitted for cs-mount lenses. The monitor bracket is attached directly to the camera body thus making it one unit. I can swap it out in a matter of seconds if needed. The key is the Sony enhanced effio-e chip and super hdd ccd.
Make sure to show us your version when your finished !
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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I don't use the red or green lights, just IR. BTW, you can get a much smaller and lighter power supply. I use a 6800 mAh and it will power the unit for over 24 hours. It is $42.00 here: http://www.usledsupply.com/shop/12v-battery-pack-12v-6800mah-5v-9800mah.htmlThere is also a 9800 mAh for $72.00. I have used these a lot on my Pulsar and never have to worry about the battery being down. I tie wrapped mine to my buttstock on the opposite side from my cheek. I leave it there to charge also.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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Here is a daytime still from the Watec. Note the various shadow levels and ability to resolve. The bushes in the rear of the photo are ~55 yards away.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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Is it a Bullet or a Box? What chip-set does it use?
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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The Watec 910 HX is probably the best low light camera out there at this time. I didn't say affordable. Blurb: The Watec 910HX 1/2" 570 TVL Wide Dynamic Range Camera (EIA) is a low-light B&W camera. At a standard 0.0001 lux and 0.000005 lux (integrated frame technology), this camera is designed to adjust based on the lighting conditions of your environment via frame loss compensation. This unit is fully adjustable to meet the requirements of your dark or well-lit applications and can be pre-calibrated by the user to ensure good quality imaging experience. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/899111-REG/Watec_910HX_1_2_570_TVL.htmlIt is actually too expensive for most DIY builds. Check Rolands comparison video. It was in a whole different class from the others.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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I'm waiting on a lens from China right now and then I'll be able to get some better video. This is a cascaded version as opposed to your scopeless. I am not building mine to use hunting. It's just a test bed to learn from. A lot of the DIY guys have a hard time buying a store bought unit because they can build one for 300 bucks that offers a better image. Keep up the good work!!
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/08/13 09:04 PM
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The watec's have been around 20+yrs very good low light cameras, the board version and some other models are about 1/2 the price and will give similar performance with ir assist. Now if no ir is what you are looking for, the watec listed is the best but price is not cheap. Plus they usually don't come with lenses that's extra $$$ Best cheap camera I have used sony exview cam .0003 lux around 120.00 several lens choices are available you pick the one you need or buy several to try different FOV. ex view Very sensitive to ir, you can use 940 IR which is hard to see source , unlike 850nm IR which gives off a red glow. Put it behind compact day scope and you will have daytime at night, with IR assist
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/11/13 03:57 AM
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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In Roland's first version he uses a standard 3 x 9 power 40mm scope for the optics. In version 3 he uses a 7-70mm vari-focal lens attached directly to the camera itself. I took it one step further and used a box cctv camera body as my base and a 5-100mm lens. By doing so it gave me a flat surface to mount the illuminators. The image I see rivals that of the n750 because of the lens I use. My scope has the 2 shot scope adjustment just like the pulsar. Here is a pic of the display. Here is a shot of my first attempt to sight the scope in. The red dot was the 1st shot, then in the center of the target you can see just above the bullseye the second shot. Pretty cool huh. This last pic is the next 4 shots, remember this is a high powered PCP airgun so each shot draws down the airtube pressure. What I'm looking for is 4 shots in a vertical line. 5th shot is the one just under the bullseye. To center the crosshairs in the display I will have to shim the scope just a tad. A Pulsar N750 is $1,600 and it is nice don't get me wrong, but this rig cost me $300 and works just as good. Also, what is really nice is I can rotate the display 90 degrees and hold the rifle Duke Nukem style. One a final Note, I purchased one of the T20-IR's to Replace the Green Laser torch, that will add $100 to the total cost of the build making it a little over $400.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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thats some great work, did anyone ever put this on a .308? I would be curious to know if it would hold up to the recoil and what kind of life expectancy to get out of it.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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Since it is all digital, meaning the crosshairs, there is no reason it shouldn't hold up to a 308. If the recoil jacks with the focus then I guess you may have to refocus just a bit? Not sure about the LED display but I don't see a problem there either.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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11/14/13 11:33 PM
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The recoil may not mess with the zero, but it may break up the electronics. Not all that stuff is made shock resistant to that sort of repeated shock.
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Re: Meet Frankenstein DIY Digital Night Vision
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The recoil may not mess with the zero, but it may break up the electronics. Not all that stuff is made shock resistant to that sort of repeated shock. 1+ High energy recoil shock wave can do a lot of damage
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