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Well I hope it's true and pushes the birds down.

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Me too. I just hope we get some rain between now and then!

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Talking with old school gentleman and they are telling me a harder than average winter because the does were dropping a lot of twins.



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Oh I know it. We need rain so bad. We need flooding rains.
If not ill be waddling in the mud flats again this year.

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Does anyone recommend an affordable E collar or have a good one they want to sell?

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Originally Posted By: Greenheadkiller
Does anyone recommend an affordable E collar or have a good one they want to sell?


What in the world does that have to do with a cold winter?

Back on topic: I have seen a ton of does with twins this year.


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I think the long drought and then this year the decent rains had more to do with the sets of twins than the weather of this coming winter.


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Re: Cold winter [Re: Greenheadkiller] #4515680 08/27/13 10:33 AM
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Does anyone recommend an affordable E collar or have a good one they want to sell?
Top left of migratory page is a box that says new topic. Click it then make your own post or top right has a search option where if you type that question, you'll find several post on the subject. Tritronics will be the most suggested collar.



I hope we have a really wet winter, we need it.

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Hopefully it's true almost every doe Ive seen at the house has twins and couple with triplets

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Bring it on, the colder the better...and the more I enjoy it.

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wheres all the hurricanes they predicted for this year?

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Originally Posted By: Featherduster
Bring it on, the colder the better...and the more I enjoy it.

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I'm sure that there are several people that will disagree with this but I think that our days of getting pushes of ducks with cold-weather are over with. I've been keeping a log book of birds killed weather conditions etc. since 1996. In 1996 and 1997 we shot somewhere in the neighborhood of 800 mallards per year. Every year since then that number has declined down to the point where the last five years we have not kill more than 50 mallards in a season. (Out of 2000 ish birds/yr)

So what has changed – planting practices for hunting ducks. There's an immense amount of land the Midwest that is planted in corn and flooded for mallards. My friends that Hunt that area say that the mallards will stand on top of 2 inch thick ice and eat the corn. And the biologist say this is a big part of population growth for mallards and Canada geese-lowered migration mortality because they have cut their migration distance in half and have unlimited food source.

The birds that we kill predominantly in central Texas our photo migrators. They are heading to the coast that basically the same time each year based on the link the day more than whether. Those being gadwalls, teal, redheads.

Back in 96 and 97 I could show that a strong southern dipping Arctic front would bring huge numbers of mallards to our area. What I show now is a strong dipping Arctic front takes our local birds and pushes them to the coast.

What I have seen the last 6 to 7 years is that a strong front blows pur birds out and our best hunts are generally 2 to 3 days after the cold front with a strong Southwind where we get coastal birds coming up.

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Originally Posted By: brazosboyt
I'm sure that there are several people that will disagree with this but I think that our days of getting pushes of ducks with cold-weather are over with. I've been keeping a log book of birds killed weather conditions etc. since 1996. In 1996 and 1997 we shot somewhere in the neighborhood of 800 mallards per year. Every year since then that number has declined down to the point where the last five years we have not kill more than 50 mallards in a season. (Out of 2000 ish birds/yr)

So what has changed – planting practices for hunting ducks.
There's an immense amount of land the Midwest that is planted in corn and flooded for mallards. My friends that Hunt that area say that the mallards will stand on top of 2 inch thick ice and eat the corn. And the biologist say this is a big part of population growth for mallards and Canada geese-lowered migration mortality because they have cut their migration distance in half and have unlimited food source.

The birds that we kill predominantly in central Texas our photo migrators. They are heading to the coast that basically the same time each year based on the link the day more than whether. Those being gadwalls, teal, redheads.

Back in 96 and 97 I could show that a strong southern dipping Arctic front would bring huge numbers of mallards to our area. What I show now is a strong dipping Arctic front takes our local birds and pushes them to the coast.

What I have seen the last 6 to 7 years is that a strong front blows pur birds out and our best hunts are generally 2 to 3 days after the cold front with a strong Southwind where we get coastal birds coming up.

Nah i think it's just more hunters and less water over the years have made them more likely to be on the slim side.

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I think the long drought and then this year the decent rains had more to do with the sets of twins than the weather of this coming winter.
+1, natural response to good range conditions and low numbers from drought years


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Originally Posted By: brazosboyt
I'm sure that there are several people that will disagree with this but I think that our days of getting pushes of ducks with cold-weather are over with. I've been keeping a log book of birds killed weather conditions etc. since 1996. In 1996 and 1997 we shot somewhere in the neighborhood of 800 mallards per year. Every year since then that number has declined down to the point where the last five years we have not kill more than 50 mallards in a season. (Out of 2000 ish birds/yr)

So what has changed – planting practices for hunting ducks. There's an immense amount of land the Midwest that is planted in corn and flooded for mallards. My friends that Hunt that area say that the mallards will stand on top of 2 inch thick ice and eat the corn. And the biologist say this is a big part of population growth for mallards and Canada geese-lowered migration mortality because they have cut their migration distance in half and have unlimited food source.

The birds that we kill predominantly in central Texas our photo migrators. They are heading to the coast that basically the same time each year based on the link the day more than whether. Those being gadwalls, teal, redheads.

Back in 96 and 97 I could show that a strong southern dipping Arctic front would bring huge numbers of mallards to our area. What I show now is a strong dipping Arctic front takes our local birds and pushes them to the coast.

What I have seen the last 6 to 7 years is that a strong front blows pur birds out and our best hunts are generally 2 to 3 days after the cold front with a strong Southwind where we get coastal birds coming up.


I can buy some of that but I really don't think that there is so much corn planted that it stops the entire migration of mallards. Now my records on the ranch show that we have been in a drouth from half Azz to full blown since 1996 in Texas, but lots of rain north of us and most farming moving from centex to westtex and you prolly have the answer to your mallard problem. If they are planting so much corn to flood for ducks that it's stopping them from migrating then we have bigger problems that need to be addressed


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Bring it on, the colder the better...and the more I enjoy it.


Yeah you and me both. Nothing better than a cold wet day. My fav hunting weather

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I'm sure that there are several people that will disagree with this but I think that our days of getting pushes of ducks with cold-weather are over with. I've been keeping a log book of birds killed weather conditions etc. since 1996. In 1996 and 1997 we shot somewhere in the neighborhood of 800 mallards per year. Every year since then that number has declined down to the point where the last five years we have not kill more than 50 mallards in a season. (Out of 2000 ish birds/yr)

So what has changed – planting practices for hunting ducks. There's an immense amount of land the Midwest that is planted in corn and flooded for mallards. My friends that Hunt that area say that the mallards will stand on top of 2 inch thick ice and eat the corn. And the biologist say this is a big part of population growth for mallards and Canada geese-lowered migration mortality because they have cut their migration distance in half and have unlimited food source.

The birds that we kill predominantly in central Texas our photo migrators. They are heading to the coast that basically the same time each year based on the link the day more than whether. Those being gadwalls, teal, redheads.

Back in 96 and 97 I could show that a strong southern dipping Arctic front would bring huge numbers of mallards to our area. What I show now is a strong dipping Arctic front takes our local birds and pushes them to the coast.

What I have seen the last 6 to 7 years is that a strong front blows pur birds out and our best hunts are generally 2 to 3 days after the cold front with a strong Southwind where we get coastal birds coming up.


I can buy some of that but I really don't think that there is so much corn planted that it stops the entire migration of mallards. Now my records on the ranch show that we have been in a drouth from half Azz to full blown since 1996 in Texas, but lots of rain north of us and most farming moving from centex to westtex and you prolly have the answer to your mallard problem. If they are planting so much corn to flood for ducks that it's stopping them from migrating then we have bigger problems that need to be addressed


I would agree with you completely on the changes in farming practices being a large part of what has probably shifted the ducks. The friend of mine that is a biologist up north said that it is something that they are considering addressing in the fact that so many of the mallards in Canada geese are no longer migrating. They are staying on frozen fields and frozen ponds up north due to the amount of flooded food production.

I've just gotten to where the last few years that the only thing that excites me about a really good cold front coming is the one day were you have that ripping north wind that gets the ducks close to the bank.

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very interesting read...

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Does anyone recommend an affordable E collar or have a good one they want to sell?


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So the widgeons, gadwalls, and redheads will keep migrating south? Because we never shoot mallard down in Glen Rose till late late season. Even then though we still shoot like 3.


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But I would LOVE a cold winter! That's all I usually hope for!


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Originally Posted By: brazosboyt
I'm sure that there are several people that will disagree with this but I think that our days of getting pushes of ducks with cold-weather are over with. I've been keeping a log book of birds killed weather conditions etc. since 1996. In 1996 and 1997 we shot somewhere in the neighborhood of 800 mallards per year. Every year since then that number has declined down to the point where the last five years we have not kill more than 50 mallards in a season. (Out of 2000 ish birds/yr)

So what has changed – planting practices for hunting ducks. There's an immense amount of land the Midwest that is planted in corn and flooded for mallards. My friends that Hunt that area say that the mallards will stand on top of 2 inch thick ice and eat the corn. And the biologist say this is a big part of population growth for mallards and Canada geese-lowered migration mortality because they have cut their migration distance in half and have unlimited food source.

The birds that we kill predominantly in central Texas our photo migrators. They are heading to the coast that basically the same time each year based on the link the day more than whether. Those being gadwalls, teal, redheads.

Back in 96 and 97 I could show that a strong southern dipping Arctic front would bring huge numbers of mallards to our area. What I show now is a strong dipping Arctic front takes our local birds and pushes them to the coast.

What I have seen the last 6 to 7 years is that a strong front blows pur birds out and our best hunts are generally 2 to 3 days after the cold front with a strong Southwind where we get coastal birds coming up.


While I'm not a fan of DU, no farmer is going to flood $ 2000-2500acre corn. Makes no sense, zero. To flood 10 acres of corn that's 20k-25k. That's a lot of damn duck hunts. Grant it 10 acres of open water with corn will hold thousands of birds. But still your talking an entire migration.

Big two things is--- its been a while since we had a harsh fall up north. Kansas/Oklahoma have been stack up with ducks will in to Jan because its taking that long for the water to hard freeze.

Second part of equation is look at the farming changes in east texas. No more peanuts and not a rice crop worth a flip in last few years.



Now I'm sure big hunt clubs up north and DU entire season ice eaters are effecting us some but for the most part as long as the majority of the water north of us isn't freezing then the ducks have no reason to leave. When my family are shooting 6-8man limits of Greenheads on my ranch all the way to the last day of Oklahoma season, that means us guys that are for the most part at the end of the migration route are screwed because those ducks aren't going to make it to us durning season


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So the widgeons, gadwalls, and redheads will keep migrating south? Because we never shoot mallard down in Glen Rose till late late season. Even then though we still shoot like 3.


stephenville/erath county use to be a awesome greenhead hunting because its was all peanut farmers, now its sudan and coastal....

Bring back those peanut farms and you will see the greenheads again


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