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Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 07:52 PM
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Will AR's be banned? Want to hear everyones thoughts.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 07:59 PM
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No,
They just don't have the votes. We own the House. And they have a very small majority in the Senate.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 08:11 PM
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I think that's right. But I think it also means what you see in the Senate for the next six months will be an absolute circus. Schumer, Feinstein and Co. will put their insanity on display and the lamestream media will broadcast it all 24 hours a day if these blowhards can keep talking that long. I think they believe they can wear us down.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 08:23 PM
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We are lucky Wayne La PIerre is tougher than Chuck Norris. And isn't going to take this lying down, then of course we have people like Chuck Norris, Ted Nugent and Jessie Ventura (an 8th Dan Taekwondo Black Belt, a Rocker and a SEAL) who aren't either.
Jessie Ventura did a good job of making PIers Morgan look like an idiot on his own show.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 08:28 PM
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We are lucky Wayne La PIerre is tougher than Chuck Norris. And isn't going to take this lying down, then of course we have people like Chuck Norris, Ted Nugent and Jessie Ventura (an 8th Dan Taekwondo Black Belt, a Rocker and a SEAL) who aren't either.
Jessie Ventura did a good job of making PIers Morgan look like an idiot on his own show.
Ventura was never a Navy SEAL.
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Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 08:31 PM
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With the scare i beleive there have been to many AR's and ammo put into circulation that no legislation with be effective except an "assault weapon" confiscation.
Also I dont think a ban can or will happen, various reasons listed above,but possibly a waiting period like there used to be on pistols.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 08:36 PM
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I doubt they are banned.
Mag restrictions, probably.
Private party sales having to go thru FFL, maybe.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 10:02 PM
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I doubt they are banned.
Mag restrictions, probably.
Private party sales having to go thru FFL, maybe.
The private sales definitely will be called to attention and really I can't argue that. We sell and trade guns and never really know who will be getting them. It has crossed my mind a few times that what if that gun I just sold turns up on crime situation. I've no proof of sale and if I unknowingly sold it to a criminal will I be sued by the victim?
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/01/13 10:18 PM
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Yup they will be banned as we know them now. It will at least be as bad as the 93 ban.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 12:21 AM
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Look who's wearing the tinfoil hat now!
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 12:34 AM
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We are lucky Wayne La PIerre is tougher than Chuck Norris. And isn't going to take this lying down, then of course we have people like Chuck Norris, Ted Nugent and Jessie Ventura (an 8th Dan Taekwondo Black Belt, a Rocker and a SEAL) who aren't either.
Jessie Ventura did a good job of making PIers Morgan look like an idiot on his own show.
Ventura was never a Navy SEAL. You know something we don't? I really don't think the Seal community would allow someone to claim being a Seal if they were not.
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I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 12:54 AM
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I would support a private sales card that folks could get renewed every few years that I could see prior to selling a gun to them.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 01:12 AM
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You know something we don't? I really don't think the Seal community would allow someone to claim being a Seal if they were not.
Ventura wasn't technically a SEAL. He was a frogman. Frogmen were the predecessors of the SEALs. Still a very good accomplishment.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 01:15 AM
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You people seem to forget that those pushing for an "assault weapons" ban are standing on a platform of dead children. If you don't support the ban, you don't like children (or something to that effect).
I think that a ban of some type will be passed. Nothing as restrictive as Feinstein's original legislation, but I can see magazine restrictions and possibly registration requirements being passed. We'll see what happens when it makes it out of committee.
I'd support something like Snmcc is proposing, or stricter background checks. They don't violate the second amendment because they don't limit the ownership of firearms by legal citizens.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 01:25 AM
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I'd support something like Snmcc is proposing, or stricter background checks. They don't violate the second amendment because they don't limit the ownership of firearms by legal citizens.
If u have chl u have already passed background check. dont think need any additional back ground check to purchase a weapon. Logically they should tie the background check to already having the chl but we all know they are not logical.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 01:32 AM
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You all seem to be forgetting how stupid the american population is. They did elect Obama TWICE and Libs like Fienstein, Reid, and Schumer still get re-elected.
The Feinstein bill will not be passed in its entirety but you can bet it will still have teeth.
The registration and taxes on grandfathered weapons and the confiscation of firearms at death are just outright rediculous.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 01:38 AM
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I would support a private sales card that folks could get renewed every few years that I could see prior to selling a gun to them. So some sort of blanket ownership registration? Or a constantly updating background check regardless of new purchases? Perhaps we should do that with other things as well. That way I wouldn't accidentally sell my car to a 15 year old or someone with a DUI, or sell my skinning knives to someone with an assault charge, or...... Too many people looking at this wrong. We need to re-learn how to address personal responsibility as a nation. That is the only way to continue to maintain our personal freedom. Individual rights are the point of this nation. Not bans on inanimate objects, frivolous lawsuits that pass blame to people, manufacturers and businesses with minimal connections to another's accident or illicit behavior.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 02:11 AM
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Look who's wearing the tinfoil hat now! haha ya but they won't come take em just make another law with no teeth and drive up the price on "pre ban" stuff.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 02:45 AM
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I would support a private sales card that folks could get renewed every few years that I could see prior to selling a gun to them. So some sort of blanket ownership registration? Or a constantly updating background check regardless of new purchases? Perhaps we should do that with other things as well. That way I wouldn't accidentally sell my car to a 15 year old or someone with a DUI, or sell my skinning knives to someone with an assault charge, or...... Too many people looking at this wrong. We need to re-learn how to address personal responsibility as a nation. That is the only way to continue to maintain our personal freedom. Individual rights are the point of this nation. Not bans on inanimate objects, frivolous lawsuits that pass blame to people, manufacturers and businesses with minimal connections to another's accident or illicit behavior. Yup! The usual result of feel-good liberal legislation is FAILURE, which is then followed by even stupider liberal feel-good nonsense to try and fix what they've screwed up from the git-go. And then instead of own up to the failure of their ideas they blame the conservatives as the world around them burns to the ground. The answer is the abolition of gun-free zones.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 02:46 AM
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as a law abiding citizen, i don't think i should have to get any card, or take a test, or jump through any hoops of any kind. if somebody can't be trusted with a firearm, why are they running loose where they are able to have access to them? there are already a gazillion laws in place to keep firearms out of the hands of untrustworthy people. why not make them jump the hoops, or round them up or whatever it takes? wouldn't everyone agree there are more law abiding citizens than not? they already do justice dept. checks now when i buy a new firearm. enough is enough. let's put the heat on the law breakers instead of honest citizens from whom we have nothing to fear anyway. i don't need to apply for, or carry any kind of a card or i.d.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 03:35 AM
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Here's a reason not to concede anything to these gun grabbing douche nozzles. I hear a lot of pro-gun people saying "I'm fine with stricter background checks" or "I'm fine with mental health evaluations for new gun purchasers". It sounds noble, but now all they have to do is to make the tests so hard to pass that the gun sales dry up and manufacturers have to close their doors. They didn't ban the guns but they might as well have because now no one can get them.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 03:53 AM
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I think we're going to see owning an AR, and other 'evil weapons', become similar to owning a short barreled rifle, or suppressor. Additional screening, and a tax stamp. I can definitely see the private sales being halted and everything having to go thru an FFL. Capacity limits too.
The devil will be in the details though. What, if anything, will get grandfathered? How will they implement any new legislation?
They almost certainly will not pass anything that will require them to confiscate anything. That would be an absolute disaster. I see it coming with a deadline where you either turn them in, get compliant, or become a criminal. I also see issues with getting compliant within the allotted amount of time due to backlogs in the approval system.
Anyone wanting to make some money in the market should be looking at companies that make shovels, post hole diggers, PVC pipe, and PVC fittings.
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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01/02/13 03:55 AM
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There is no tangible basis for psychological tests. I would hate that to be the basis for any ownership of any item. Ever been sad, angry, depressed, in a fight, forgetful? then no firearms for you!
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psych evals and drug test
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Re: Thoughts on AR's and Semi Autos being banned
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There is no tangible basis for psychological tests. I would hate that to be the basis for any ownership of any item. Ever been sad, angry, depressed, in a fight, forgetful? then no firearms for you! Exactly. This is their best chance to neuter the Second Amendment and this is the way they'll do it.
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