We hunted Tahr in New Zealand last year on public land and needless to say I won't be back.

If it has horns it gets shot at, so damn near everything is crazy wild.

Anyone have any Himalayan Tahr on their places, and can you post prices and size of the operations.

Or PM me if you must.

Heck yea bro, I wz there twice this yr and man it was a crazy place, when we seen a critter it was on pins and needles spooky! Beautiful country but dang they hunt 24/7 365 days a yr down there!

6 of us went last year, all the shots were between 500-800 yards and we didn't recover a single tahr of the 2 that were shot, because even if we killed them on the spot we couldn't get to the animal to recover them.

That and we drew a good block that was supposed to be good for Tahr and were were supposed to have it exclusivly for the trip. As you have they have drawings for the hunting blocks.

We saw 3 to 6 helicopters per day hunting in our area. Shooting from the helo.

At one point were standing looking at some tahr about 1800 yards away, when a helicopter dropped this outfitter and 3 American clients about halfway between us and the tahr. We worked our way down to the hill and and asked the outfitter what they were doing , as we had won the drawing for this area and had exlusive for the time we were there. Needless to say we exchanged hot words with this idiot poaching on our area, reported it to the authorities when we got down the hill and informed the American clients that the guy was screwing them over.

Never again, beautiful place, but unless you are hunting on 20,000 acres of private land it's worthless.

Just looking for Tahr in the United States, thanks!

The only place I know of is White Elk Ranch but I'm not sure about their status on Tahr, the listing for the Nebraska ranch, says $4900. I know there's a connection between the one in Colorado and the one in Nebraska but I don't remember the exact story but I think one operation is winding down and the other is gearing up but i might have misinterpreted what I read.

Found a couple, and an indian reservation in New Mexico has some free range.

$4900 works for me. Better than $15,000 for a trip for one in New Zealand. Considering they aren't native either place, and I can shoot one in Mid-Jan in Nebraska for hair I couldn't get in New Zealand in Mid-July as Nebraska is going to be colder.

I got a place $5,500 trophy fee their out on 2,000 acres there is a bunch on the ranch.

It's a fun challenging hunt with all the hills and brush.

Rob, I'll keep locked in on this for when I get back to the states next year.

The New Zealand trip sounds great.. although the $15k price is a bit steep especially if you come home empty..

We actually had $14K in the trip for 6 people since we did it self guided on public land.

If you go over there make sure you are on private land. Public land is pretty shot up.

Now I'm not an exotics hunter, not by choice but by pocket book, but to me aren't you supposed to take the recovery of the animal into consideration before you pull the trigger? That's basic hunting 101. Am I missing something? Or is this often a scenario when exotic hunting?

Y.O Ranch

Recovery had to do with area we couldn't get across because we started an avalanche.

Glad a Pastor is the first person to pass judgement. Glad I am a Orthodox Catholic.

I thought the post was pretty ignorant as well. How does a mountain hunt in New Zealand translate into hunters neglecting to retrieve only exotic animals that they hunt?

I'm confused. I'm not passing judgment as you state. I'm just wondering why you couldn't get the animals you shot? I think it is a legitimate question.

As far as your religious preference, I could care less. You could be a moon worshiper for all I care, has nothing to do with my question.

(Example of my thinking that brought me to my original question) In my mind, if I saw an elk of a lifetime across a canyon, and taking the shot I risked a real good chance of it careening 1000ft to the bottom and thereby not worth the effort of recovery, then it would be unethical to take the shot.

That's not passing judgment, it's just common sense. So I am wondering why you could not get the animals you shot. You say avalanche, fine. I guess it was totally coincidental that it happened, otherwise I guess you would be conservative enough not to risk it.

So what I've learned from this part of the Forum

1. Not recovering exotics shot is a normal part of hunting exotics.

2. Asking questions seeking clarification(since I'm not an exotic hunter) is not acceptable.

3. Because I am a pastor, any opinion I have that is against another's opinion is "pasting judgment"

4. Somehow being an "Orthodox Catholic" adds to the relevance of this thread.

Come on fellas, get the chip off, I wasn't trying to start something, I seriously wanted to know.

Ok that was a good reply and funny to.

Actually I was just being funny.

We are all God's creatures.

We started out across a big canyon after the tahr, got about half way there and the mountain started sliding away below us.

Decided that our lives were not worth the trying to retrieve it.

It is far too often that context doesn't come along in written text.

Just joking with you.

As for game retrieval I agree, it was the only time in my life I could see something we had shot and couldn't get near it.

We actually lost a lot of gear, and most of our camp got wiped out by another avalanche. We had to medivac the 83 year old hunter in our group out, and he was the native-Kiwi that lived there and was supposed to be a guide.

We good yo.

Hi There Guys.

Sorry to hear that you were unsuccessful on your trip to New Zealand...if anyone wants any info on tahr do a PM on me...I've been hunting them for 40 years.

Your posts about hunting tahr in New Zealand unfortunately sound absolutely credible. If you come this far and want to hunt on private land you need to go to the gymn (every day for a year) before coming and then spend a month doing your hunting.

It's more sensible to hunt free range on private land because it's a long way to come for no trophy...and they are such a fantastic animal...it was painful to see your post.

Taken a couple of months ago this photo shows what we all would like to see.

These bulls knew I was there and very soon vacated the premises.

They look big and shaggy but they can cover an incredible amount of altitude in a very short time.

Texas Hunt Lodge

Free Range tahr can get into some hairy places...they thrive in the mountains and can inhabit genuinely precipitous places.

This country is so steep it makes the bottom drop out of your stomach...just looking at it.

I like to see that -- a transplanted animal in an environment where it must feel entirely at home.

It seems that the two locations of a few wild tahr in USA are not as ideal as the habitat for tahr in New Zealand.

From the 1930s until the late 1960s the New Zealand Government employed professional hunters to reduce tahr numbers but the tahr kept on increasing in numbers.

The advent of helicopter hunting finally controlled wild tahr numbers in New Zealand.