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Frog gigging
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07/19/11 04:28 PM
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Dont ask me why but I have decided I want to frog gig.
Couple questions I looked across TPW and am having a hard time finding frog gigging regulations.
I believe a hunting license is needed. No biggie.
Can you frog gig on any lake or does it have to be open to hunting, and frogs listed in the list of game?
Limits?
Means?
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 04:49 PM
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From the website - looks like you need a license and there is a 25-frog limit.
Licensing Rules Texas Parks and Wildlife Department requires that anyone who captures a wild animal be licensed or permitted. If you would like to participate in an activity that actively involves capturing amphibians (such as malformation monitoring), then you have two options:
1.You can purchase a State of Texas Hunting License (a $6 license is available for anyone under age 17.) 2.You can attend a TPWD amphibian monitoring workshop and we will issue you a scientific permit. Collecting frogs is not allowed on public roads.
You do not have to have a permit or license to conduct call count surveys or to observe amphibians as an Amphibian Spotter.
An additional note: When collecting with a hunting license, you may not possess more than 25 total frogs and toads. School teachers may obtain an Educational Permit from TPWD to exempt them from these quantitative limits (see Educator's Guide).
Finally, the Houston Toad and several salamanders in the Texas Hill Country are federally listed as endangered or threatened (see Amphibian Spotter Guidelines). You should not handle these species without a federal permit. No threatened or endangered species
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 04:59 PM
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FOund what I was looking for finally. Basically frogs are a non game species which cannot be taken on public land. You can take up to 6 daily on private property with a license.
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 06:05 PM
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 06:08 PM
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txshntr
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So who is right?
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 06:16 PM
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westtexaswatkins
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6 a day on private property. That's not going to fill a frying pan very fast.
Ask Kyotee1, I bet he knows or can find the current regs.
Last edited by westtexaswatkins; 07/19/11 06:17 PM.
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 06:22 PM
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Sniper John
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FOund what I was looking for finally. Basically frogs are a non game species which cannot be taken on public land. You can take up to 6 daily on private property with a license. Naw, that ain't right. You just have to have a hunting license and you can take them on public land. Like any other animal on public land it is dependent on the restrictions for each public hunting area. There are units in the APH book that list "Frog" in the legal game listings. Cottontails are non game animals and you can certainly take them on public land. Yea, I just looked up Lake Ray Roberts Unit #501 in last years book for an example. "Squirrels, Rabbits, Hares, and Frogs: No closed Season".
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 07:07 PM
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If you got a B & C Trophy Bullfrog....would you have it mounted! Would it be FAIR CHASE or FAIR HOP..?!?!?
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 08:12 PM
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You should forget that public land poo. Go after them behind high fence, Their a lot bigger there and taste like chicken.
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/19/11 08:58 PM
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Sniper John
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I had seen frogs listed on some WMA's. Which are different than "Public property" What? WMA's are public property. I'm not seeing what your seeing. If there are no area restrictions against taking bullfrogs for the public land/water you are on, you should be good to go, 25 per person. There are some really good frog gigging places around, we used to do well spotlighting way up some of the creeks on Ray Bob, but bullfrogs tend to run in game cycles. Not every year will be good.
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07/19/11 09:03 PM
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ONGAME ANIMALS (Includes, but is not limited to the following):
Armadillos* Bobcats* Coyotes*
Flying squirrels Frogs Ground squirrels
Mountain lions Porcupines Prairie dogs
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Does not include feral hog (see Exotic Animals and Fowl). No closed season. These animals may be hunted at any time by any lawful means or methods on private property. Public hunting lands may have restrictions. A hunting license is required. *BOBCAT pelts sold, purchased, traded, transported or shipped out of state must have a pelt tag (CITES) attached. A pelt tag must be attached prior to being transported or shipped out of this state. Pelt tags may be obtained from any permitted bobcat pelt dealer, or TPWD Regional & Field Law Enforcement Offices. For additional information contact TPWD (800) 792-1112, menu 7, option 9 or (512) 389-4481. Live *COYOTES are currently under a statewide rabies quarantine that prohibits them from being transported or sold in Texas (see exceptions). For information on the rabies quarantine, visit the Texas Department of State Health Services Infectious Disease Control Unit Web site. *ARMADILLOS: Possession and sale of live armadillos is restricted. No person may possess a diamondback terrapin at any time. No person may hunt (capture, trap, take, or kill) any wild animal or wild bird on a public road or the right-of-way of a public road.
POSSESSION AND SALE OF CERTAIN NONGAME WILDLIFE
The take of any nongame species for commercial purposes (sale, offer for sale, barter, or exchange) from public lands or waters is unlawful. Provided the appropriate permit has been obtained, red-eared slider, common snapping turtle, and softshell turtle may be taken from private water for commercial purposes; however, the take or possession of any other species of turtle for commercial activity is unlawful. Many species of nongame wildlife may be sold, offered for sale, bartered, or exchanged, provided the proper nongame permit has been obtained from TPWD and all reporting and recordkeeping requirements are met; however, the collection from the wild, sale, offer for sale, or exchange of certain species of nongame wildlife is unlawful. A landowner or landowner's agent may kill any nongame wildlife other than protected birds and threatened or endangered species (see below) at any time in any number, provided the wildlife is not used in a commercial activity. For more information on nongame regulations, permit requirements, and lists of lawful and prohibited species, contact TPWD at (800) 792-1112, menu 7 or (512) 389-4481 or go to Nongame Permits.
New Nongame Regulations Frequently Asked Questions
• What is the white list? The white list - the species in Texas Administrative Code, §65.331(d) - is the list of nongame species that it is lawful to collect and use for commercial purposes (buy, sell, barter, trade, etc.). Species listed in §65.331(e) cannot be collected for commercial purposes. Possession and sale of species listed in §65.331(e) is legal, provided the stock is lawfully acquired and the permit holder is in compliance with documentation requirements.
• Where can I collect species on the white list? Species on the white list may be collected only on private land or water with the permission of the landowner.
• Where is it illegal to collect nongame wildlife? Nongame wildlife may NOT be collected on public land, from public water, or on public roads and the rights-of-way of public roads.
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/20/11 04:24 AM
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Where is it illegal to collect nongame wildlife? Nongame wildlife may NOT be collected on public land, from public water, or on public roads and the rights-of-way of public roads.
By Collect, I they mean "Collect Alive" Not harvested/killed. You should be good to go - 25 per day limit.
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/20/11 04:41 AM
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Sniper John
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Well, I think the top part saying you can take them from public is from the general non game non commercial regulations and the bottom part you posted saying you can't is from the commercial regulations. I know they are on the white list and at least used to be able to have 25 in possession if not for commercial purposes. But who knows anymore?
The way TPWD is with confusing us on the obscure regulations, sometimes published in error, and always changing, you better ask Austin and get it in writing if you do go. I could give you a half dozen regulation examples from the forum where we have asked TPWD to clear it up and the answer surprised most everyone including me.
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/20/11 03:59 PM
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Re: Frog gigging
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07/20/11 07:34 PM
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No limit on bullfrogs on private property - Requires: - landowner permission - valid hunting license - Hunter Education Certification if born on or after Sept. 2, 1971.
Some, not all of the APH Units (check each Unit and Legal Game Box if they allow Frogs to be taken) which requires: - a valid hunting license - APH permit for those 17 and above (youth 16 and under can go with anyone that has an APH but must be accompanied by them). - limit is 25/person
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07/20/11 07:44 PM
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waddy
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Where can I buy "Frog Crack?"
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