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Lots of broken antlered deer on our lease? #1913967 12/12/10 10:48 PM
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I have been on a lease in Comanche county for about seven years and have noticed that we see lots of deer every year with broken antlers. I have some ideas as to why this occurs but was wondering if other leases experience the same.


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This time of year there are a ton of broken racks just about everywhere I go.


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Plenty at ours in Young county too. Although I mostly only see them on camera.



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Re: Lots of broken antlered deer on our lease? [Re: passthru] #1914314 12/13/10 01:01 AM
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Buck to doe ratio's are at or just about where they need to be. Lot's of competition for doe's. That is good.



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Re: Lots of broken antlered deer on our lease? [Re: txhuntingguide] #1916626 12/13/10 05:30 PM
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Just about every buck on our place has some kind of broken antler.


Re: Lots of broken antlered deer on our lease? [Re: dgilbert] #1916805 12/13/10 06:18 PM
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Most would say it is because there are too many doe or not enough causing the bucks to fight more. the ratio needs to be about 1 to 1 if you want less broken racks




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Originally Posted By: Archer Anthony
Most would say it is because there are too many doe or not enough causing the bucks to fight more. the ratio needs to be about 1 to 1 if you want less broken racks


It would seem to be the exact opposite from what I have seen. With a 1 to 1 ratio the bucks would be competing more for does therefore you have more sparring. If the buck to does ratio was 1 to 5, seems the bucks wouldn't need to spar and compete because there's plenty of does to go around.

Btw, we have quite a few bucks that are broken up in Shackelford County as well.


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i shot a busted up 9 yesterday morning in howard county. 4 were broken. i didnt mind tho because i am very proud of that deer!



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Re: Lots of broken antlered deer on our lease? [Re: shark 25-06] #1916923 12/13/10 06:53 PM
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What are the numbers of deer like? Sit all day and see one or a lot of deer?


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we're close to a 1 to 1, and about 50% of the bucks I have been seeing have some breakage. I saw several bucks over the weekend that have lost nearly an entire beam...


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Originally Posted By: Archer Anthony
Most would say it is because there are too many doe or not enough causing the bucks to fight more. the ratio needs to be about 1 to 1 if you want less broken racks


You have it backwards. The more does to bucks, the less broken antlers.


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We've noticed a very high amount of breakage on our place, 3 or 4 bucks with broken main beams, multiple others with busted points. Very few with intact racks. Stxranchman had a good point, this year, due to the rains, healthier, stronger bucks should lead to more broken antlers.


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Originally Posted By: Justin T
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Most would say it is because there are too many doe or not enough causing the bucks to fight more. the ratio needs to be about 1 to 1 if you want less broken racks


You have it backwards. The more does to bucks, the less broken antlers.


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Originally Posted By: Justin T
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Most would say it is because there are too many doe or not enough causing the bucks to fight more. the ratio needs to be about 1 to 1 if you want less broken racks


You have it backwards. The more does to bucks, the less broken antlers.


Yup!

When I hunted the Fairfield area we had about a 1 buck to every 10 Does ratio. Hardly ever saw a broken rack.
Now I hunt Coke County and we are pretty close to 1:1 on our place and a good 50%-60% of the bucks are broken......even the little yearlings.


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wrong. the shorter the rut the less antlers being broke. more does longer rut more fighting




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Originally Posted By: Archer Anthony
wrong. the shorter the rut the less antlers being broke. more does longer rut more fighting


What ever you say. rolleyes


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thats how i think but im not a pro. just an opinion thats what forums are for right?




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Yeah, clearly not a pro. I've never heard a single biologist, or individual that manages a heard say more does to buck means more broken antlers.

Think about it, if there are 10 hot chicks per guy at the bar, there aren't going to be many fights.


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where is that bar?


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so whats a good ratio then. what do the bioligists and actual ranch managers say that you have heard????




Re: Lots of broken antlered deer on our lease? [Re: kyle1974] #1917758 12/13/10 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: kyle1974
where is that bar?


Now that made me laugh.



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ours is pretty dang close to a 1 to 1

if you want big deer, why do you want to grow/feed/manage a bunch of does?


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so whats a good ratio then. what do the bioligists and actual ranch managers say that you have heard????


I've always heard 2 doe to 1 buck is a good ratio.

With a closer ratio you will have more fighting, but bucks will have to move around more to find a hot doe.



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where is that bar?


Can't give out the honey hole, kinda like naming a lake in the migratory section.


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