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 Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: catchin']
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12/01/10 11:16 PM
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Gators2561
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Well from past experience and if you have used them you will notice no exit hole. Plenty of killing power no doubt about that with as much if not more knock down, but with no exit hole the tracking job becomes very difficult. The entry hole takes more time to start bleeding enough to track. If you did not get good visual on which way the deer went it may be hard to pick up the blood trail. With a good exit wound the blood starts to flow instantly which makes tracking very simple. Now this is not always accurate but it is more often than not. So its just my way of thinking nothing wrong with different views.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: duckncover]
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12/01/10 11:37 PM
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RockinU
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behind the shoulder is the most text book shot. If a deer is 100 yards or less I go for a neck shot most of the time. I got a new 7mmWSM this year. I have killed three deer with it. 2 neck shots and one heart/lung shot.Shots have been 40-80 yards. All three droped where they were standing. One thing with a neck shot. I like to shoot towards the base of the neck. I think that at some point you could miss the spine if you shoot too close to the head. I love a drop in your tracks shot. Thats why I opt for neck shots most of the time. The real answer to where do I shoot is where a kill shot is presented. I do something different when I need too. sometimes you are only presented with a certain shot. Then you have to make up your mind fast. As long as its a lethal one and I feel good about it I slowly squeeze the trigger. Actually that is incorrect. The closer you get to the shoulder,on the neck, the higher the ratio of soft-tissue to bone you get. In other words as you move down the neck towards the shoulder, the more there is to hit that isn't bone..
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: Gators2561]
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12/01/10 11:39 PM
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RockinU
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Never shoot a deer in the neck? What are you basing that on? I think all kids or inexperienced hunters should go for the neck. It is a hit or miss shot with no tracking job. You do not risk pulling your shot a few inches and making a gut shot or any other bad shot placement. Just know with a neck shot the deer will not bleed out as good so you will need to cut the deers throat for proper bleeding. Now with that said if you are shooting a big buck and want a shoulder mount your taxidermist would not like the shot placement it can be fixed just takes more time. I also bow hunt most of the time so behind the shoulder is a must. Rifle always neck shot if it is less than 100 yds. ballistic tips should only be used for neck shots jmo Again incorrect, I have had to turn my dogs onto plenty of neck shot deer. Miss bone and major vessels, and you have a running deer.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: RockinU]
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12/01/10 11:52 PM
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TAT
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It's not how you fall, It's how you get up.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: TAT]
#1881001
12/02/10 12:04 AM
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Big Red 12
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I have neck shot alot of deer. And I saw eviedence on the first lease on neck shot that went on. Guy shot a 10 pt. in the neck Thanksgiving on the lease. Never found the deer. Then right after Christmas he shot the same deer and it had the old wound that was healing up from the previous neck shot. Wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it. Deer was in bad shape health wise.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: catchin']
#1881057
12/02/10 12:18 AM
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bouxriverkiller
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Shootem through the lungs and you wont waste ant meat and you will find your deer everytime.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: RockinU]
#1881119
12/02/10 12:35 AM
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kmon11
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Never shoot a deer in the neck? What are you basing that on? I think all kids or inexperienced hunters should go for the neck. It is a hit or miss shot with no tracking job. You do not risk pulling your shot a few inches and making a gut shot or any other bad shot placement. Just know with a neck shot the deer will not bleed out as good so you will need to cut the deers throat for proper bleeding. Now with that said if you are shooting a big buck and want a shoulder mount your taxidermist would not like the shot placement it can be fixed just takes more time. I also bow hunt most of the time so behind the shoulder is a must. Rifle always neck shot if it is less than 100 yds. ballistic tips should only be used for neck shots jmo Again incorrect, I have had to turn my dogs onto plenty of neck shot deer. Miss bone and major vessels, and you have a running deer. One of the biggest misconceptions ever. Miss or DRT not true.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: hill...hunter...3]
#1881178
12/02/10 12:51 AM
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ALWAYS, ALWAYS "SHOOT A DEER BEHIND THE SHOULDER WHEN POSSIBLE!" You owe it to the animal to make a Lethal & Humane Kill. I agree with your concerns to NOT Waste Meat on Antlerless Deer so if you will wait until your Doe steps forward with the BACKSIDE LEG, your expanding bullet (along with bone fragments) will only take out flesh & ribs on the exiting side. Try it, you'll be pleased...
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: Blood-Tracker]
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12/02/10 01:19 AM
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Bobby B
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I shoot every deer just behind what we call the knuckle, or the dark spot at the point if the shoulder. I taught my kids and my wife to do the same.
I didnt see but a cousin told me about shooting one thru the neck, hit a bit high and cut the tendons along the top of the neck bone, the deer's head dropped between it's front legs and it was off to the races. He said it was a good half mile before they caught up to it to finish it off.
Not me or mine, We'll just keep shooting behind the shoulder and if needed, walk the extra few steps to get the deer.
And it is pretty obvious that those that say they shoot their does in the neck and their bucks behind the shoulder put little value on their does.
Last edited by Bobby B; 12/02/10 01:22 AM.
" If you can't have no fun, it ain't no use a'goin' ! " - old man in a Sweetwater , TX cafe 
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: Bobby B]
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12/02/10 02:13 AM
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ddmm
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My sons and I shoot small cal. guns, .243, .223, and I shoot a 22-250. I've taught each to shoot for the lungs and heart. They may not all drop in the tracks, but they don't go far.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: ddmm]
#1881465
12/02/10 02:20 AM
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it all comes down to personel pref. i like high shoulder shot others like behind the shoulder and on and on. now you have seen what others like. try acouple different shots and see what you like the best!!! good shootin
It's not how you fall, It's how you get up.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: TAT]
#1881482
12/02/10 02:28 AM
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RockinU
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it all comes down to personel pref. i like high shoulder shot others like behind the shoulder and on and on. now you have seen what others like. try acouple different shots and see what you like the best!!! good shootin just not the head please...
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: kmon11]
#1881509
12/02/10 02:33 AM
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tx270
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Never shoot a deer in the neck? What are you basing that on? I think all kids or inexperienced hunters should go for the neck. It is a hit or miss shot with no tracking job. You do not risk pulling your shot a few inches and making a gut shot or any other bad shot placement. Just know with a neck shot the deer will not bleed out as good so you will need to cut the deers throat for proper bleeding. Now with that said if you are shooting a big buck and want a shoulder mount your taxidermist would not like the shot placement it can be fixed just takes more time. I also bow hunt most of the time so behind the shoulder is a must. Rifle always neck shot if it is less than 100 yds. ballistic tips should only be used for neck shots jmo Again incorrect, I have had to turn my dogs onto plenty of neck shot deer. Miss bone and major vessels, and you have a running deer. One of the biggest misconceptions ever. Miss or DRT not true. kmon you are absolutely correct. Love the little spot about ballistic tips too, I guess the 30-40 deer (including mule deer) I've seen shot with Ballistic Tips that exited after hits in the shoulder/lung area were just flukes. Yes, ballistic tips are a fast expanding bullet, but only good for neck shots? Wow, this place cracks me up sometimes! Bill
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: tx270]
#1881617
12/02/10 03:08 AM
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MELackey
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I've only lost 1 deer in my life. It was only the 2nd behind the shoulder shot I've taken. I've NEVER lost and NEVER had to track one that I shot in the neck. I use 150-165 grain Remington Core Lokt ammo in my 30-06.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: MELackey]
#1881629
12/02/10 03:11 AM
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RockinU
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I NEVER got a speeding ticket...till I got my first one...
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: RockinU]
#1881751
12/02/10 03:48 AM
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Buckhog
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: MELackey]
#1882112
12/02/10 07:49 AM
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kmon11
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I've only lost 1 deer in my life. It was only the 2nd behind the shoulder shot I've taken. I've NEVER lost and NEVER had to track one that I shot in the neck. I use 150-165 grain Remington Core Lokt ammo in my 30-06. How do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt the lost deer was shot behind the shoulder if you never recovered it?
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: kmon11]
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12/02/10 09:32 AM
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catchrcall
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i've put my dog on plenty of neck shot deer, and a few head. if you find them it's not pretty or cool, but i can tell you that it will be a tough track and a long one. once you've had to track down a deer shot through the sinuses or jaw you'll agree i think. behind the shoulder only for me, and i think that the advice about letting the far leg go forward is sound. i also think that the angle of the shot has a lot to do with how much meat is damaged. i agree that the dead or missed neck shot statement is a myth.
Last edited by catchrcall; 12/02/10 09:33 AM.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: catchrcall]
#1883281
12/02/10 06:05 PM
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shark 25-06
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i shot 2 in the head last year and i have no problems taking that shot. but this year i am very greatfull to be hunting by invitation
with a great member of the forum. i have only killed 5 deer 2 i shot in the head, 2 i shot in the chest between the shoulders that were looking at me and wouldnt go broadside and the other one i shot behind the shoulder and was the only one i had to track. i like drt. i dont want to go out on an invitation hunt and make the land owner regret he invited me by taking bad shots.
I will get off in a little bit
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: shark 25-06]
#1883882
12/02/10 09:45 PM
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volsdad
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i like to take out both shoulders If that doesn't line up then its just behind the shoulders. Look at the anatomy that Rustler posted. The heart is alot lower than most hunters think. They shoot high behind the shoulder and have no blood trail. All the blood is on the inside from blowing out the lungs.
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: catchin']
#1885840
12/03/10 02:57 PM
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if u shoot a deer in the neck with a balistic tip it will blow his neck to nothing
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: south texas hunter]
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12/03/10 03:00 PM
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KBTXHunter
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I'd shoot it right in the deer....
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: KBTXHunter]
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12/03/10 03:06 PM
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south texas hunter
Light Foot
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the only reason i would shoot a deer in the neck is if i had a small caliber gun
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Re: where do i shoot a deer?
[Re: south texas hunter]
#1885911
12/03/10 03:16 PM
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mage2
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KBTXHunter, Shoot it in the deer? i thought we were huntin pigs? 
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