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Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 02:01 AM
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Was watching mythbusters tonight and they did an interesting test. Jamie bathed in scent elimination products, wore scent elim clothing and sprayed on scent elim product. With a 5 minute head start Jamie ran to a hiding place outdoors. They gave a bloodhound his original scent and had the dog track em.
Dog didn't miss a beat and found him right away.
Obviously a bloodhound has an excellent nose. I just thought it was an interesting test.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 02:30 AM
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Was watching mythbusters tonight and they did an interesting test. Jamie bathed in scent elimination products, wore scent elim clothing and sprayed on scent elim product. With a 5 minute head start Jamie ran to a hiding place outdoors. They gave a bloodhound his original scent and had the dog track em.
Dog didn't miss a beat and found him right away.
Obviously a bloodhound has an excellent nose. I just thought it was an interesting test.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. A quick Google uncovered this... "Deer smell at a level 20 times better than humans, but dogs have about 25 times more olfactory (smell) receptors than humans do." IMO, a five level difference between deer and dogs equates to a deer being able to bust you as easily as a dog. Save your money and just use the wind to your advantage.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
[Re: Texas Dan]
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10/07/10 02:43 AM
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i think deer smell 99% of the time, the times they don't bust you for it is cause they don't see you as a threat or don't give a s***
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
[Re: Texas Dan]
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10/07/10 02:47 AM
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The Scent-Lok company's own scientists that developed their products testified against them in a civil suit stating that scent elimination is pure fallacy. I can't believe people spend thousands of dollars on an item that will NEVER do what it is supposed to do. I don't use any scent eliminating products and never will. The closest thing I use to a cover scent is called tobacco! I still chain smoke while hunting and seem to be doing just fine.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
[Re: redseal]
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10/07/10 02:51 AM
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i think deer smell 99% of the time, the times they don't bust you for it is cause they don't see you as a threat or don't give a s*** I could not agree with you more!!!!!! I was out small game hunting yesterday and two young does walked perpendicular to me about 50 yards downwind and when they smelled me just looked at me for a sec and went about their business. Scent-Lok is 21st century snake oil.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
[Re: Inky Doc]
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10/07/10 03:16 AM
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Ouch! http://www.heinsmills.com/cases/Scent_Lok.htmlNow I can see the benefit of concealing odor or reducing it but there is no way to eliminate it as those companies claimed. Too bad deer aren't trained to run to the scent like a bloodhound!
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
[Re: Txduckman]
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10/07/10 03:39 AM
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 03:42 AM
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One of the reasons i only fart in to brown paper bags is to ensure the deer dont smell me and then come looking to hump my leg.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 04:29 AM
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 09:26 AM
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All I know is I was using Scent away and had a yearling doe walk up to within 5 feet of me without alarm.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 11:43 AM
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i think deer smell 99% of the time, the times they don't bust you for it is cause they don't see you as a threat or don't give a s*** X2. I can't count the number of times I know I was scented but the deer didn't spook. I cut across a grassy clearing one morning to a tree I was going to hunt out of. When it got light, I could see my trail through the tall wet grass leading right to my tree. I thought "It's a good thing deer aren't smart enough to understand that the trail leads to me". After a while, a Coyote cut across the clearing. When he hit my trial, he stopped, smelled it, and took right up on it coming towards me. About 25 yards from my tree, he cut off my trail and continued on his way. A few minutes later, a 4 point comes across the clearing, cuts the Coyotes trail, stops, smells it, and takes up the trail. When he comes to my original trail, he turns and starts following it. He has his nose down like a bloodhound and is following a trail made by me and a Coyote. When he came to where the Coyote turned off, he turned and went right behind him into the woods. To make a short story long, I think it's pretty rare that you can fool a deers nose. Sometimes they just don't care. And sometimes they do dumb things. More than once, I've seen deer stop, smell a spot where a person urinated, and then just go on their merry way.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
[Re: Seadog]
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10/07/10 11:44 AM
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Well the scent elimination 99% isn't accurate but what you are doing is reducing the amount of scent your putting off. It def does do that same as using a cover scent such as coon piss or any such scent. I compare it to us smelling a skunk. If you smell a little wiff of a skunk no big deal you know there is one around somewhere but not to concerned. Now if you smell the same skunk and it's strong as heck then you now to get the heck out of there. The same principle just allows you to get a little closer with out the overwhelming scent we put off. But with saying this if you use the wind right that's the only 100% scent cover out there.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 12:19 PM
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I agree with Gators, one thing we fail to realize is, that about 80% of our scent comes from our nose and mouths.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 12:40 PM
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If you want to kill odor boil a gallon of water and add a box of baking soda, its the same thing as sent away.
I think the "odor eliminating" products are just another example of how much CRAP is sold to hunters, it all comes down to...
1. How many hours you spend in the woods 2. The quality of the place you hunt 3. LUCK that the big buck walks out
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
[Re: deewayne2003]
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10/07/10 12:49 PM
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The test is interesting. Bloodhounds have a better nose then any other dog 40 times the receptors of us. I use cover scents like ceader oil and I cant find the one that was my favorite liquid earth scent.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 12:53 PM
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I watched the mythbusters demostration, but I have to say, they need to do things a little different.
1. He washed up, went right by the dog. 2. They gave him a 5 minute head start. So Jamie RAN, sweating, exhailing more than he would have if he walked. They should have given him a 20 minute start, and told him to walk to avoid sweating.
Not saying the dog couldn't find him if they did it a bit different, but at least you would have taken the factor of him sweating by running out of the equation.
Also when they went through the water, he should have gone DOWN STREAM, not up stream. This would have carried his sent away from the dog.
Honestly, I don't use Scentlok products. I was my clothing with no scent detergent, I pack it up in a bag after washing. I've been up close with deer without them scenting me. Last weekend I had 3 bucks within 15 yards of me and didn't spook them (Until I shot one of them with a bow).
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 01:15 PM
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I prefer to step in cow manure on the way to the blind.... they are used to that smell and are not worried about it...
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 01:32 PM
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Just another example of someone trying to separate you from your money.
Hunt with the wind in face or get up higher if you are concerned about your scent and save your money.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 01:46 PM
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So lets add an interesting spin on this...
I have spent probly every day at my lease in the woods over the last week and a half or so. Does me being there leaving my "scent" in the woods effect the deer in my area???
If I let the woods "rest" would I see more deer when I do hunt??
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 01:47 PM
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I prefer to step in cow manure on the way to the blind.... they are used to that smell and are not worried about it... I roll in it now. My dog has been doing it forever, so there must be something to it. I haven't figured out what that is yet...
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 01:55 PM
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It's overrated.
I spent last Saturday pee'ing out of my bow blind, and when my buck walked out, I know he smelled me, but he didn't really care.
It's kind of one of those, "totally depends on the mood the deer is in" things. Sometimes they'll haul at the first tiny whiff of you, and sometimes you can pee on their forehead and they barely notice.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 02:00 PM
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Deer are very aware of anything different in their area. If you fill up your truck with diesel or gas & there is fresh stench on you and/or your boots when you go to the blind, they will notice if the wind is in their favor. Especially shooter bucks.
Not saying to buy into the total elimination stuff, but minimizing strong, odd smells & perfumy crap sure can't hurt. Especially if you are hunting an area that doesn't see a lot of human activity & if you're down in a thick bottom, rather than watching a wheat field or other open area.
Do any of y'all notice a sudden change in deer patterns on your cameras & while watching in the first days when season starts? That is due to pressure, as well as the beginning of the rut.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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I agree with that, oulufinn.
The deer in my area are very used to cars, trucks, people, etc., because a lot of people actually live out there. So they probably walk by areas where workers have pee'd all the time.
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 03:53 PM
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I bow hunt only and do the walk in the manure trick also. We haven't bought scent in years I cut up a bunch of cedar(with berries)simmer on the stove with water and strain it out through a sock a couple times and either I'm crazy our else it has made a huge difference not getting busted!
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Re: Scent Elimination Products and Mythbusters
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10/07/10 04:13 PM
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I saw another expose on scent eliminating clothing a couple of years ago. They took all of the major brands and got a Lab's favorite chew toy and rolled it up inside the garment, then placed it somewhere in a room without the dog seeing it. The dog found it every time within a few seconds. None of the brands were able to fool the dog's nose and they were being very careful not to contaminate the outside of the garment when they wrapped it up.
Basically, unless you're wearing something that says NASA on it, you're leaking scent.
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