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Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights #1183286 01/19/10 08:35 PM
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Personally I think its great, but some folks are flipping out about it. Most of the people using them dont even know. So whats the big deal?

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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: Boudreaux] #1183330 01/19/10 08:49 PM
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I have no problem with what a private company puts on their product, if it offends me I won't buy their product. This does not offend or bother me in any way.

Besides this has already been posted.


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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: helomech] #1183366 01/19/10 09:04 PM
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Well I'm reposting since I never saw the first post.



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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: Boudreaux] #1183651 01/19/10 11:10 PM
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I think it is awesome!! I'll make sure to buy an ACOG for my next AR set up!!


Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: helomech] #1183849 01/20/10 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: helomech
I have no problem with what a private company puts on their product, if it offends me I won't buy their product.

This right here.


Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: Wyatt] #1184183 01/20/10 02:10 AM
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I was around plenty of ACOG's and I must say I never saw them. I am looking through all my pics and it doesn't look like any of ours had the bible codes.

Pretty neat idea imo - I'm all for it since it is their product that they sell to the public.



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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: JGL Hunting] #1184223 01/20/10 02:24 AM
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I love mine... thought that was real cool when I first heard that. up


Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: Greg] #1184965 01/20/10 01:40 PM
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Anyone know which verse it was refering to? There are many 3:12 verses.


Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: jrye] #1184982 01/20/10 01:54 PM
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I think its all out of proportion...


Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)] #1185025 01/20/10 02:21 PM
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I think its waaaaaaaaaay out of proportion. The people complaining about this and other groups like the ACLU will be the downfall of our society



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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: Boudreaux] #1185116 01/20/10 03:02 PM
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lol, even the name is Jesusy.

Tri = Trinity
J = jesus
Icon = yea, that.

There is good money to be made by associating your product or service with Religion.



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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: gbeard] #1187553 01/21/10 01:59 PM
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I think it is awesome!! I'll make sure to buy an ACOG for my next AR set up!!




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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: Sirrah243] #1187648 01/21/10 02:42 PM
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I saw this morning that they have succumbed to the whiners and cryers and are removing the codes. Go figure.


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Originally Posted By: jds15151
I saw this morning that they have succumbed to the whiners and cryers and are removing the codes. Go figure.


More likely the USMC decided it was bad PR to have this on weapons used in Muslim countries. When we are trying to get the native people to work with us the last thing we need is reminders of the crusades.

The USMC said they were thinking of canceling the contract because of this. The company probably needs this contract so they are going to take it off.

Personally, I think it is fine for consumer based goods. The buyer can decide what they want. In this case the USMC was the buyer and decided they did not want it and it affected the company enough that they decided to change.

This is Capitalism at work.



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I saw this morning that they have succumbed to the whiners and cryers and are removing the codes. Go figure.


More likely the USMC decided it was bad PR to have this on weapons used in Muslim countries. When we are trying to get the native people to work with us the last thing we need is reminders of the crusades.

The USMC said they were thinking of canceling the contract because of this. The company probably needs this contract so they are going to take it off.

Personally, I think it is fine for consumer based goods. The buyer can decide what they want. In this case the USMC was the buyer and decided they did not want it and it affected the company enough that they decided to change.

This is Capitalism at work.


soapWhat a complete shame! Our country was founded on Christian Values and the Holy Bible, (Gods unfoulable word) was used by our founding fathers to shape our constitution and laws.

Our troops are stationed in this war torn country trying to establish democracy and protect these peoples and we may offend them with a verse from the Bible.

No wonder this country is in the shape it is in.

GOD bless America, please.


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I think it's cool that they were on there, especially the particular verses chosen. I don't have a problem with them being removed if it makes things in the Middle East go easier. What bothers me is that ABC and others insinuate that there is some sort of sinister, secret Bible code. It's a Bible verse. It's not disguised. The abbreviatons for the book name are usual and costomary abbreviations, and the verse is written in its standard form (chapter:verse). WHHOOOPPPPEEEEE... If they ONLY put those on military items, then I'd say they were doing it just to be cute and it would be inappropriate. But they put it on EVERY piece manufactured, so I'd say they were not trying to pull a fast one as the news report seems to infer.

Hopefully they will decide it's still worth the effort to leave the scripture reference on items sold to the public. It is their company, and I think it is cool.





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Originally Posted By: Sirrah243


soapWhat a complete shame! Our country was founded on Christian Values and the Holy Bible, (Gods unfoulable word) was used by our founding fathers to shape our constitution and laws.

Our troops are stationed in this war torn country trying to establish democracy and protect these peoples and we may offend them with a verse from the Bible.

No wonder this country is in the shape it is in.

GOD bless America, please.


Yeah they are there to bring in democracy and looking like a religious crusader is counterproductive to that end.

I am a Christian, but if I was a Marine I would rather be shot at less than have a bible verse on my equipment. Besides, not all the men and women using them are Christian.

Our Country was founded on the principles of religious freedom.



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Religios freedom from the church of England.

I doesn't matter weather a Christian uses te product or not a christian company produced it and they placed a bible verse on their product. The Muslims can deal with it. Our troops are there for them. Why should the American military have to change anything.

God created all of us and he provides for all of us. Christian, Muslim, whoever.

Everybody wants to shut God out, it started years ago in this country and thousands of years ago in the middle East. Thats why we have all these problems.

Political correctness is not correct.



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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: Sirrah243] #1189043 01/22/10 12:03 AM
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As I said earlier this is more of a capitalism/free market issue than a religious one.



Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: Sirrah243] #1190599 01/22/10 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Sirrah243

Political correctness is not correct.



Maybe not but in this case it is pragmatic

"This is a big concern to the Army and the Marine Corps, who have contracted for these particular sites," said Petraeus, the head of U.S. Central Command, noting the religious sensitivities American forces face in the two Muslim countries.

"This is of serious concern to me and to the other commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan because, indeed, it conveys a perception that is absolutely contrary to what it is that we have sought to do," Petraeus told a forum at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

"It is disturbing to us, frankly, that this was done," he added.

"I can assure you that there is much greater sensitivity among our troopers about this kind of thing than, apparently, there is in whatever contractor produced those sights."

- U.S. General David Petraeus

Petraeus calls gunscope inscriptions "disturbing"


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Petraeus sounds more and more like a politician! Never did like him. Fact is that those sights were submitted to a panel of high-ranking military officers who all blessed off on them and approved their purchase. Now we're just making excuses. Who cares what the enemy thinks?


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As much as I like them, I'd like to know if they were on the contract T&E samples as approved or added to production models?

Current inventory here does not have the markings on them.


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Perhaps they should inscribe the sight with a verse from the Koran so that the people who our troops are batteling and defending can feel all warm and fuzzy. bang



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Im sure our fine outstanding president has put a bug in Petraeus's ear about the scriptures. After all he says we are no longer a christian nation. I respect our military 100% but there are better things to bitch about than scripture.
I can remember when men would fight to defend the christian faith, now it seems they can only bump their gums to bitch about offending someone. The last I remember these "could be offended" dont give a rats [censored] about us infidels and want us dead. Maybe the scripture might lead some of them to Jesus instead of Buda, Alah,Satan, or what ever dung pile they was worshipping



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Re: Biblical Code on Trijicon Sights [Re: snakedoctor] #1194317 01/24/10 08:51 PM
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Uh, they are the enemy RIGHT! Who ever cared what the enemy thought, or at least that would be my take on it. If they were thinking, these people would want to sit down and talk instead of put out IED's and such.


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