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puddlers and divers

Posted By: garrett

puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:28 PM

whats more fun to shoot?

puddle ducks are fun to shoot when they are cupped up and coming in, but lets be honest, not a challenge for a shooter.

I say divers are more fun to hunt, those fast little rascals are a blast. They are screaming through the decoys and you never know what kind of shot your going to get. Sometimes you get the station #4 shot that requires a heck of a lead, sometimes is a station #8 that just pure instinct.

Divers up
Posted By: wal1809

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:31 PM

Puddlers up
Posted By: mohunter

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:32 PM

Well we ought to hunt together then, would give both of us something to do. I pass on the divers, except for cans, but choose the puddlers hands down. Just like watching them work, cupped, feet down for me.
Posted By: BradyBuck

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:36 PM

I like puddlers better. I guess it's more about the bird than the shot to me. I also find more satisfaction in watching them come in cupped just like you wanted or how you planned.

But as wfhunter said below... I will not pass on whackin divers either
Posted By: wfhunter

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:40 PM

They are all fun to shoot! We prefer puddle, but we will shoot the heck out of diver if that is the flavor of the day.
Posted By: aerangis

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: garrett
whats more fun to shoot?

puddle ducks are fun to shoot when they are cupped up and coming in, but lets be honest, not a challenge for a shooter.

I say divers are more fun to hunt, those fast little rascals are a blast. They are screaming through the decoys and you never know what kind of shot your going to get. Sometimes you get the station #4 shot that requires a heck of a lead, sometimes is a station #8 that just pure instinct.

Divers up


Don't shoot much teal, eh?
Posted By: garrett

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:48 PM

I agree that watching puddlers work is way better, but shooting divers is a blast
Posted By: garrett

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:49 PM

Originally Posted By: aerangis
Originally Posted By: garrett
whats more fun to shoot?

puddle ducks are fun to shoot when they are cupped up and coming in, but lets be honest, not a challenge for a shooter.

I say divers are more fun to hunt, those fast little rascals are a blast. They are screaming through the decoys and you never know what kind of shot your going to get. Sometimes you get the station #4 shot that requires a heck of a lead, sometimes is a station #8 that just pure instinct.

Divers up


Don't shoot much teal, eh?


no, never hammer
Posted By: #Hayraker

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 08:50 PM

I like shooting those funny looking diver geese
Posted By: JoeCowboy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:01 PM

Water turkeys are my jones....
Posted By: Dfwguy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:04 PM

Puddle are more fun to call and work.

Divers are [almost] more fun to shoot.

They're all fun to watch fall!
Posted By: Judd

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:11 PM

Divers suck to clean....Puddle ducks for the win Alex (or G).
Posted By: Gdogg

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:18 PM

Bof.

I love watching red heads and cans come crashing in with not a care in the world.

I love shooting puddlers because the constant circling and unpredictability makes me want to shoot everyone one of them in the face.
Posted By: Gdogg

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Judd
Divers suck to clean....Puddle ducks for the win Alex (or G).



Ringers and blue bills yes.

Redheads and cans are fine.
Posted By: Gdogg

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: garrett
whats more fun to shoot?

puddle ducks are fun to shoot when they are cupped up and coming in, but lets be honest, not a challenge for a shooter.

I say divers are more fun to hunt, those fast little rascals are a blast. They are screaming through the decoys and you never know what kind of shot your going to get. Sometimes you get the station #4 shot that requires a heck of a lead, sometimes is a station #8 that just pure instinct.

Divers up


Tell the story about making blue bill steaks for your date. clap
Posted By: MoBettaHuntR

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Gdogg
Bof.

I love watching red heads and cans come crashing in with not a care in the world.

I love shooting puddlers because the constant circling and unpredictability makes me want to shoot everyone one of them in the face.



Truf roflmao
Posted By: Judd

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Gdogg
Originally Posted By: Judd
Divers suck to clean....Puddle ducks for the win Alex (or G).



Ringers and blue bills yes.

Redheads and cans are fine.


No, I had it right....all divers suck to clean and there ain't a duck out there worth plucking.
Posted By: garrett

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 09:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Judd
Divers suck to clean....Puddle ducks for the win Alex (or G).


like I actually clean em, Judy
Posted By: Gdogg

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Judd
Originally Posted By: Gdogg
Originally Posted By: Judd
Divers suck to clean....Puddle ducks for the win Alex (or G).



Ringers and blue bills yes.

Redheads and cans are fine.


No, I had it right....all divers suck to clean and there ain't a duck out there worth plucking.


Shooting some divers might relieve all this built up anger. grin
Posted By: LarryCopper

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 10:05 PM

I'd choot a can over anything, meh on redheads, blah on scaupisaurus and tank turds. But, if it's getting late morning and things are slow I have no problem taking whatever wants to play.

I'm a relative duck snob.
Posted By: ducknbass

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 10:38 PM

Mallards I leave the trash ducks for the kids.


Happy now G? boxing
Posted By: Guy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/11/14 11:38 PM

I pretty much just pass on ringers and spoonies..
Posted By: garrett

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 12:38 AM

Originally Posted By: ducknbass
Mallards I leave the trash ducks for the kids.


Happy now G? boxing


your a mallard snob because you learned it from Judd clap

Originally Posted By: Guy
I pretty much just pass on ringers and spoonies..


why pass on spoonies, they are puddle ducks just like mallards, and they work like a champ...if you like wings cupped and feet down they are great for that
Posted By: Guy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 01:40 AM

I don't like the way their tongue hangs out their mouth when you ring their neck.
Posted By: ducknbass

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 01:40 AM

I do not pass on spoonies..

Judd tatt me everythang I no about killing ducks.
Posted By: ducknbass

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 01:41 AM

Ps. I'm glad Judd's around if not I'd be the butt of all the jokes.
Posted By: Fooshman

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:38 AM

I turn my nose to no duck.
Posted By: jdk1985

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Fooshman
I turn my nose to no duck.

Bout right
Posted By: Jeff Elder

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Guy
I pretty much just pass on ringers and spoonies..



roflmao I remember when you killed those by the bushel basket. Big time now I guess
Posted By: Guy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 03:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeff Elder
Originally Posted By: Guy
I pretty much just pass on ringers and spoonies..



roflmao I remember when you killed those by the bushel basket. Big time now I guess

One season I had a ringer invasion on my lease, my son liked to shoot them, so we had a ringer smack down once or twice. One hunt I cleaned 2 limits of ringers, the smell would not wash off me. That was the last time I shot a mess of ringers. Spoonies I bet I shot 3 or 4 over last 10 years.
Posted By: Jeff Elder

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 03:30 AM

Now now I think your nose might be growing just a bit Guy.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 04:27 AM

Puddlers, Divers, Mergansers, they all go in sausage anyway these days. I don't descriminate. I own about as many diver decoys as I do puddler decoys. Even use a long line sometimes. At this stage in my life it is more about the hunt, the dog, and being out there than it is about what kind of duck I shoot.
Posted By: Jeff Elder

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 04:35 AM

You are using a gang rig John?
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 04:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeff Elder
You are using a gang rig John?


Not often, but I have a short one with window weights on each end I can use when the situation calls for it. I could only find one picture that shows part of it in use.



And I even have Merganser decoys.



Like I said, I don't descriminate. In Kuby's Jalapeno Cheese Sausage, it don't matter.

Posted By: Sniper John

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 05:01 AM

Garrett, Jeff,
I'm going Deer hunting for a few days at the end of the week, but dang it, you guys got me thinking I might just hook up the kayak trailer with the layout boat/wooden piroge on it and throw the the gang rig and diver decoys in it. Then take a break one morning to run up to the brine for a traditional diver hunt. It will be the only thing not frozen up there. H'mmm. nidea But then the rut should be going on too. So probably not.
Posted By: garrett

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 01:34 PM

I got to thinking about this on Sunday, we shot about half divers and half puddle ducks. After every diver pass we came up shooting, and would laugh and have a blast as they went skipping across the water.

Do it, John. Im sitting here trying to figure out when I can go to the coast with Wal to shoot redheads
Posted By: Guy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeff Elder
Now now I think your nose might be growing just a bit Guy.

Yeah, it's about 6 spoonies I guess. I may shoot some spoonies this year if get desperate because I'm throwing it all in sausage, but you can have the ringers.
Posted By: wal1809

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:14 PM

I might be headed to the coast or might be headed back to College Station. If the shooting that went on last Sunday is any indication of how many ducks moved in, I am going to need more ammunition. All I can figure is they had 40 people in the blind, or they had 10 blind people hunting. I am guessing 200 rounds were fired. Holy mother of goodness that was rediculous. Navasot I am not reffering to your group unless they move north by about a mile maybe 3/4.
Posted By: wal1809

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: garrett
I got to thinking about this on Sunday, we shot about half divers and half puddle ducks. After every diver pass we came up shooting, and would laugh and have a blast as they went skipping across the water.

Do it, John. Im sitting here trying to figure out when I can go to the coast with Wal to shoot redheads


I really want to get coastal but I am not so inclined to go on a weekend. There are way too many dip@#$%s for me to keep my sanity. the older I get the less tolerant I get. After recent happenings I just don't even want to be around a lot of the public fracus any longer.
Posted By: Guy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: wal1809
Originally Posted By: garrett
I got to thinking about this on Sunday, we shot about half divers and half puddle ducks. After every diver pass we came up shooting, and would laugh and have a blast as they went skipping across the water.

Do it, John. Im sitting here trying to figure out when I can go to the coast with Wal to shoot redheads


I really want to get coastal but I am not so inclined to go on a weekend. There are way too many dip@#$%s for me to keep my sanity. the older I get the less tolerant I get. After recent happenings I just don't even want to be around a lot of the public fracus any longer.

I would think in an air boat, especially on the coast, you could get away from everyone.
Posted By: Dave Speer

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:43 PM

I like shooting them all. My buddy in Idaho that I went on a goldeneye hunt last year, they laugh at the guys that hunt mallards up there. That crew is kind of diver snobs. Not that they won't shoot the mallards if they happen by, they specifically hunt the divers because they prefer those shoots.

Nice merganeezer decoys John!

Originally Posted By: Sniper John




This hunt was kind of funny (to me, I don't know if John thought it was that funny.) So two mallard drakes come in and pitch right into the hole. Picture perfect, one on each side, no question "whose was whose" and John called the shot. I was visually locked into "my" bird, I lost track of John's. I'm talking counting the feathers on the crown of the head focus. When he called it I sat up and splashed the mallard, and refocused/looked up to see the whole scene... check on John's bird etc. His bird was flying off... or so I thought. So I took a pop shot at it. Unfortunately we lost that bird.

So I look at John and say "how on earth did you miss that bird??" He says "WHAT?!?!" I said, what happened? And for those of you that don't know, I'm the rookie between the two of us so for me to rib him...

OK so here's what REALLY happened.

Two birds come in. John's bird is slightly in the lead, so to call the best shot for both of us, he doesn't call it until his bird is on the water. He kills his bird on the water, I splash mine and look around, and at the instant I take focus off my bird and look for his, mine comes back up to fly off. We are both shooting cleanup on the same bird (mine). But because there is a bird on the water and one got away, I was sure it was the one I put down. It took me like 5 minutes to figure out what happened. Of course John knew all along.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:44 PM

cheers
Originally Posted By: Fooshman
I turn my nose to no duck.


Originally Posted By: wal1809
I might be headed to the coast or might be headed back to College Station. If the shooting that went on last Sunday is any indication of how many ducks moved in, I am going to need more ammunition. All I can figure is they had 40 people in the blind, or they had 10 blind people hunting. I am guessing 200 rounds were fired. Holy mother of goodness that was rediculous. Navasot I am not reffering to your group unless they move north by about a mile maybe 3/4.


Na that's the hunting club North of us.. my brother was deer hunting and herd the war going on also. If you were listening reeeeeaaally close you may have herd mine too... I was s few more miles NNE of there
Posted By: Jeff Elder

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:47 PM

John
I started running a gang rig last year. Love it in deep water. Set my rig with knots every 7 foot and 30 yards long.Made ten foot ends to anchor on either side so you know it's 30 yards long. Got the quick snaps on 4 ft drops of mono
Posted By: Navasot

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 02:47 PM

yall boys never been on a good wooduck hole early in the morning... best of both worlds.. you may even get lucky and have the mallards droppin through the trees
Posted By: garrett

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: wal1809
Originally Posted By: garrett
I got to thinking about this on Sunday, we shot about half divers and half puddle ducks. After every diver pass we came up shooting, and would laugh and have a blast as they went skipping across the water.

Do it, John. Im sitting here trying to figure out when I can go to the coast with Wal to shoot redheads


I really want to get coastal but I am not so inclined to go on a weekend. There are way too many dip@#$%s for me to keep my sanity. the older I get the less tolerant I get. After recent happenings I just don't even want to be around a lot of the public fracus any longer.


looks like I will be off the last couple of weeks of november cheers
Posted By: Judd

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 03:11 PM

Originally Posted By: garrett
Im sitting here trying to figure out when I can go to the coast with Wal to shoot redheads


If I shot like you I would probably have the same feelings but for me it's boom, boom....let's go red fishing cuz my hunts over. grin
Posted By: Limit Extender

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 03:17 PM

I still have a hard time telling the difference when they are flying if it's pretty early. I'm still not nearly as experienced as most of the people on here. As long as I can tell it's a legal duck, I shoot and let the chips fall where they may.
Posted By: garrett

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Judd
Originally Posted By: garrett
Im sitting here trying to figure out when I can go to the coast with Wal to shoot redheads


If I shot like you I would probably have the same feelings but for me it's boom, boom....let's go red fishing cuz my hunts over. grin


I took my layout to the skeet range this summer and practiced up
Posted By: wal1809

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: garrett
Originally Posted By: Judd
Originally Posted By: garrett
Im sitting here trying to figure out when I can go to the coast with Wal to shoot redheads


If I shot like you I would probably have the same feelings but for me it's boom, boom....let's go red fishing cuz my hunts over. grin


I took my layout to the skeet range this summer and practiced up


whip
Posted By: Gdogg

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Limit Extender
I still have a hard time telling the difference when they are flying if it's pretty early. I'm still not nearly as experienced as most of the people on here. As long as I can tell it's a legal duck, I shoot and let the chips fall where they may.




The first thing I would look for is the difference in wing beats. Divers wing beats are much faster. That will help you quickly determine if its a puddle or diver duck.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
yall boys never been on a good wooduck hole early in the morning... best of both worlds.. you may even get lucky and have the mallards Squirrels droppin through the trees


Of course I have. I do more Wood Duck hunting on my Deer lease than Deer hunting. Some days they migrate the creek high, but some mornings when they leave their roost in the trees to start feeding they will stay low screaming down the creek like podracers following every bend and curve jockeying for the lead. It is a lot of fun to set up where they are almost flying into my face when they come down the creek. With decoys a few will crash in front of me, but most will not stop and can be very challenging shots. Wherever Wood Ducks are feeding there are often Squirrels as well. Like I said, I don't discriminate.

Posted By: Sniper John

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 05:58 PM

Originally Posted By: garrett
Originally Posted By: Judd
Originally Posted By: garrett
Im sitting here trying to figure out when I can go to the coast with Wal to shoot redheads


If I shot like you I would probably have the same feelings but for me it's boom, boom....let's go red fishing cuz my hunts over. grin


I took my layout to the skeet range this summer and practiced up


How in the world could anyone miss one of those birds.

Posted By: garrett

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 06:08 PM

I could think of a couple of people clap
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 06:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeff Elder
John
I started running a gang rig last year. Love it in deep water. Set my rig with knots every 7 foot and 30 yards long.Made ten foot ends to anchor on either side so you know it's 30 yards long. Got the quick snaps on 4 ft drops of mono


I think mine is 90 ft, but the anchor ends are longer for deeper lake hunting from the layout pirogue. It's nice if it does not get tangled up. Normally I can just feed it out of the bag off the side of the boat no problem. The mistake I have made is when traveling several hours, the bag that carries it gets bounced and shuffled around. I pretty much have learned to set it up After I get to my destination, not before I leave home, unless it is a short drive.
Posted By: Greekangler

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/12/14 06:51 PM

it flys it dies
Posted By: Navasot

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/14/14 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Sniper John
Originally Posted By: Navasot
yall boys never been on a good wooduck hole early in the morning... best of both worlds.. you may even get lucky and have the mallards Squirrels droppin through the trees


Of course I have. I do more Wood Duck hunting on my Deer lease than Deer hunting. Some days they migrate the creek high, but some mornings when they leave their roost in the trees to start feeding they will stay low screaming down the creek like podracers following every bend and curve jockeying for the lead. It is a lot of fun to set up where they are almost flying into my face when they come down the creek. With decoys a few will crash in front of me, but most will not stop and can be very challenging shots. Wherever Wood Ducks are feeding there are often Squirrels as well. Like I said, I don't discriminate.

cheers
Posted By: aerangis

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/14/14 06:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Sniper John
Puddlers, Divers, Mergansers, they all go in sausage anyway these days. I don't descriminate. I own about as many diver decoys as I do puddler decoys. Even use a long line sometimes. At this stage in my life it is more about the hunt, the dog, and being out there than it is about what kind of duck I shoot.


Agreed...

Posted By: ndhunter

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/14/14 08:11 PM

Mergansers maybe

There used to be a Spoon Platoon type organization that included THF'rs
Posted By: Guy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/14/14 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: ndhunter
There used to be a Spoon Platoon type organization that included THF'rs

Not an organization, more like a Cen Tex gang, they made spoon bill necklaces, crazy...They are not right in the head down there.
Posted By: Streater

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/14/14 09:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Guy
Originally Posted By: ndhunter
There used to be a Spoon Platoon type organization that included THF'rs

Not an organization, more like a Cen Tex gang, they made spoon bill necklaces, crazy...They are not right in the head down there.


Where might I acquire one of these necklaces? I don't shoot spoonies, but they sound really cool. Got any pics? laugh
Posted By: Guy

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/14/14 10:02 PM

That would be gross sawing the bill off. grin
Posted By: ndhunter

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/14/14 11:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Guy
Originally Posted By: ndhunter
There used to be a Spoon Platoon type organization that included THF'rs

Not an organization, more like a Cen Tex gang, they made spoon bill necklaces, crazy...They are not right in the head down there.


I was avoiding geographical references but Cen Tex is always implied when it comes to shooting spoonies

Well spoonies may not be divers but they dabble in some pretty low places
Posted By: Judd

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/14/14 11:16 PM

Keepin' it weird....just saying.
Posted By: Nathan Nelson

Re: puddlers and divers - 11/15/14 02:02 AM

There are no ducks in central Texas, that is all...
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