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Spoonie or Blue Wing?

Posted By: Sniper John

Spoonie or Blue Wing? - 09/26/12 11:40 PM

Posted By: Sniper John

Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/26/12 11:58 PM

Posted By: Sniper John

Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 01:52 AM

Posted By: ishootspoonies

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 02:03 AM


when looking at the 2 wings, I can tell someone the quickest way to ID them, but I wont reveal it till this game is over. grin
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 02:08 AM

Though most who don't know will probably will hit google before voting on these, y'all try to make your votes on your first impression without the research.
Posted By: ishootspoonies

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 02:10 AM

haha, that wasn't my answer. it has to do with the primarys
Posted By: Aggieduck

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 02:15 AM

Blue wing is closer related to the N Shovler than the green wing
Posted By: duckboy007

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 02:21 AM

Originally Posted By: ishootspoonies
haha, that wasn't my answer. it has to do with the primarys


I know that trick! At least we can learn some good things in those wildlife classes.
Posted By: ishootspoonies

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 02:26 AM

Originally Posted By: duckboy007
Originally Posted By: ishootspoonies
haha, that wasn't my answer. it has to do with the primarys


I know that trick! At least we can learn some good things in those wildlife classes.

yessir.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 03:15 AM

I think there are enough votes. Because the poll is never ending and will become skewed with the answers given here are the results as of 10:00pm.

Picture of the bill. It is a blue wing. I took the picture for the poll at the same angle as the bill on a blue wing fourtrax had posted earler today. A few got it wrong, most got it right. A few like turtles.
Northern Shoveler 18 (25%)
Blue Wing Teal 42 (58%)correct
I like turtles 13 (18%)
http://www.fototime.com/BF6E62E5AF6A11E/standard.jpg

First wing is an immature Shoveler.
Blue Wing Teal 18 (29%)
Northern Shoveler 42 (68%)correct
I like turtles 2 (03%)
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/duckplum/shoveler.htm

Second wing is an immature Blue Wing.
Northern Shoveler 7 (19%)
Blue Wing Teal 28 (78%)correct
I like turtles 1 (3%)
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/duckplum/bwciteal.htm

Most are getting the wings right, but they would be difficult for most without a whole bird to look at.

Ishootspoonies, I will pass the buck to you to explain the difference.
Posted By: GoldLS1

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 03:23 AM

Pretty cool pic on flicker of a cinn teal, shoveler, and blue wing together... go to flicker and search: Teal and Shoveler Dead Strap. I would copy it, but it is copyrighted.

Their wings look very similar!!
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 03:27 AM

Pictures were courtesy of the U.S. Geological Survey. You will notice the usgs site just lumps blue wing and cinnamon together for plumage identification. But I think the different answers on the clear pics show you really can't tell from a blurry picture of part of a bird in a group of birds.
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/duckplum/bwciteal.htm
Posted By: SpoonPlatoon

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 03:29 AM

Originally Posted By: ishootspoonies
haha, that wasn't my answer. it has to do with the primarys
rachis!!!
Posted By: ishootspoonies

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 03:31 AM

look at the rachis (the middle part or the feathers) on the primaries, (long feathers on the right). The shovelers rachis are considerably more white than the teal's. it was hard to tell with just one wing, but when you look at the 2 together it's pretty obvious.

I didn't mean to skew your results, I just got a little excited. We had this same test in a wildlife ID class at SFA, with real wings of course.
Posted By: Dave Speer

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 03:33 AM

Quill on the spoonie is much more white
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 03:42 AM

Pictures I used are immature males. For anyone interested via the links given it has wings for male, female, adult, and immature to compare.
Posted By: Marcstar

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 02:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Aggieduck
Blue wing is closer related to the N Shovler than the green wing


I read that in the Delta Mag as well. They also said the green wing was closer to the widgeon.
Posted By: Starett

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 02:56 PM

Good Post I learned a little more today.
Posted By: Marcstar

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 05:17 PM

I feel bad for the blue wing and spoonie that are now flying around in circles because they had to have one of their wings cut off for our education.
Posted By: fourtrax

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 05:23 PM

Lmao!!!!!
Posted By: bhunter

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 05:43 PM

Wheres the turtles????
Posted By: ishootspoonies

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/27/12 07:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Marcstar
I feel bad for the blue wing and spoonie that are now flying around in circles because they had to have one of their wings cut off for our education.

like deer antlers and lizard tails, they grow back
Posted By: duckkillah

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/28/12 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: ishootspoonies
look at the rachis (the middle part or the feathers) on the primaries, (long feathers on the right). The shovelers rachis are considerably more white than the teal's. it was hard to tell with just one wing, but when you look at the 2 together it's pretty obvious.

I didn't mean to skew your results, I just got a little excited. We had this same test in a wildlife ID class at SFA, with real wings of course.


I was a little upset when I saw they had moved my wings from the foyer to the wildlife lab. The seed collection that we replaced had been there since the 60's!
Posted By: Judd

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/28/12 08:00 PM

If it looks like either of those shoot it right now. When the dog brings it back if it has a little beak you keep it cuz it is good. Big boot lip you stomp it and did the world a favor. Everyone is a winner rofl
Posted By: Texifornia

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/28/12 08:16 PM

Why do ppl not like spoon bills?
Posted By: ishootspoonies

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/28/12 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Texifornia
Why do ppl not like spoon bills?

you know the old saying, "scooters are like fat chicks, they are fun to ride, but dont let your buddies catch you on one?"

same rule applies here. someone somewhere once said it wasnt cool to shoot spoonies, so now 90% of the duck hunting world claims to pass on them.

not me. ishootspoonies.
Posted By: Trout-killer

Re: Spoonie or Blue Wing - 09/28/12 11:20 PM

Yeah you do.
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