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Wraith mini

Posted By: Bigfoot

Wraith mini - 04/12/22 05:25 PM

Looks like the wraith mini is available in stores now. Im about to pull the trigger on one since I now have a dedicated night hunting rifle to put it on.

Anyone else getting one?
Posted By: mikei

Re: Wraith mini - 04/12/22 05:48 PM

I have the original Wraith, and could not be happier. What does the mini offer other than a reduction in size/weight? Any features/functions that I can not live without??
Posted By: BigDad

Re: Wraith mini - 04/12/22 10:07 PM

I got my Mini about a week ago, have taken it to the range but have not hunted with it yet. IMO the primary benefit of the Mini is reduced size and weight, it weighs almost a full pound (15 oz) less than the HD. Another big benefit is a larger field of view, the 4-32x50 field of view is very small even when set to 4X. The Mini's resolution is a little better but IMO not that much. I'm told the Mini records audio when in video mode, I have not tested that yet. The HD does not record audio, that's not a big deal to me but may be to some. The Mini has 4 FFP reticles that can be selected but that's a joke, the first elevation hash mark on the MOA reticle is at least 5 MOA from the center reticle making it pretty much useless. The publicized MOA reticle subtensions are in 1 MOA and 1/5th MOA increments but that is incorrect at least for mine. The Mini has flip-up lense covers, I like them better than the rubber objective cover on the HD which IMO is just in the way.

Overall I'm please with it and I think it a decent upgrade over my Wraith 4-32X50 HD but if the size, weight and larger field of view are not important to you then its probably not worth the extra $.
Posted By: 65x55

Re: Wraith mini - 04/13/22 01:11 AM

Could you mount the mini on a picatinny 45 degree canted mount?
Posted By: mikei

Re: Wraith mini - 04/13/22 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by BigDad
I got my Mini about a week ago, have taken it to the range but have not hunted with it yet. IMO the primary benefit of the Mini is reduced size and weight, it weighs almost a full pound (15 oz) less than the HD. Another big benefit is a larger field of view, the 4-32x50 field of view is very small even when set to 4X. The Mini's resolution is a little better but IMO not that much. I'm told the Mini records audio when in video mode, I have not tested that yet. The HD does not record audio, that's not a big deal to me but may be to some. The Mini has 4 FFP reticles that can be selected but that's a joke, the first elevation hash mark on the MOA reticle is at least 5 MOA from the center reticle making it pretty much useless. The publicized MOA reticle subtensions are in 1 MOA and 1/5th MOA increments but that is incorrect at least for mine. The Mini has flip-up lense covers, I like them better than the rubber objective cover on the HD which IMO is just in the way.

Overall I'm please with it and I think it a decent upgrade over my Wraith 4-32X50 HD but if the size, weight and larger field of view are not important to you then its probably not worth the extra $.


Thanks, BigDad! I just ordered one!!
Posted By: gr8fuldoug

Re: Wraith mini - 04/13/22 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Looks like the wraith mini is available in stores now. Im about to pull the trigger on one since I now have a dedicated night hunting rifle to put it on.

Anyone else getting one?


We'd be happy to assist you with one
Posted By: David Maas

Re: Wraith mini - 04/13/22 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
We'd be happy to assist you with one


Doug, have you had any hands on experience with the mini?

Thanks
Posted By: gr8fuldoug

Re: Wraith mini - 04/13/22 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by David Maas
Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
We'd be happy to assist you with one


Doug, have you had any hands on experience with the mini?

Thanks

Yes sir, what can I answer for you?
Posted By: Bigfoot

Re: Wraith mini - 04/15/22 07:53 PM

Sorry doug had to go with midway since I needed to order some other stuff with it. When it is time for a thermal you will be my man.
Posted By: gr8fuldoug

Re: Wraith mini - 04/16/22 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Sorry doug had to go with midway since I needed to order some other stuff with it. When it is time for a thermal you will be my man.

No worries. If you need any assistance or technical help feel free to reach out
Posted By: Dzhitshard

Re: Wraith mini - 04/18/22 03:47 PM

The mini wraith is one of my new favorite rigs.
I sold my 4k 2x about 6 months ago waiting for these to finally be available.
I have a passel of thermals a Pulsar digital NV optic and a Gen3 NV 3x optic.
It took about 30 minutes of getting reacquainted with the nuances of digital NV and I was on a tear with the varmint reduction. My hunting buddies were using a 25mm Rattler and my Gen3 night scope and are accomplished night guys. I was on target quick enough with an $19 Amazon adjustable focus 950nm flashlight that f it was a competition they'd hardly have gotten a shot off.
Posted By: gr8fuldoug

Re: Wraith mini - 04/18/22 04:23 PM

FWIW, there was just a price drop on the Sightmark Wraith 4k Max 3-24x50 Digital Rifle Scope down to only $649.99
Posted By: Dzhitshard

Re: Wraith mini - 04/18/22 06:05 PM

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The bringer of death. The 4 pound monster of MayHam
Posted By: mikei

Re: Wraith mini - 04/18/22 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dzhitshard
The mini wraith is one of my new favorite rigs.
I sold my 4k 2x about 6 months ago waiting for these to finally be available.
I have a passel of thermals a Pulsar digital NV optic and a Gen3 NV 3x optic.
It took about 30 minutes of getting reacquainted with the nuances of digital NV and I was on a tear with the varmint reduction. My hunting buddies were using a 25mm Rattler and my Gen3 night scope and are accomplished night guys. I was on target quick enough with an $19 Amazon adjustable focus 950nm flashlight that f it was a competition they'd hardly have gotten a shot off.


I've got a mini on order and am thinking about selling my original Wraith. Did you have any problem selling yours?
Posted By: Dzhitshard

Re: Wraith mini - 04/19/22 06:25 AM

No Sir, Not a bit
Posted By: mikei

Re: Wraith mini - 04/19/22 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dzhitshard
No Sir, Not a bit


Thanks! I'll get mine posted as soon as my mini comes in!
Posted By: Bigfoot

Re: Wraith mini - 04/19/22 12:35 PM

I haven't had a chance to sight my mini in. But I have had a chance to play with it and educate myself on it and I am impressed at how simple it is to operate. I have some fmj's coming in the mail today so I will go shoot up 60 to 80 rounds testing the wraith at different distances and different zoom factors to get a good understanding of any type of poi shift from changing optical power. It will be a few days as I have to go to work to pay for some bullets. I will give a report after my first range session.

Man does it look sexy on a fine AKM!!!!!
Posted By: WattoHunt

Re: Wraith mini - 04/20/22 05:15 PM

Does anybody know if there is a firmware update for the Wraith Mini (SM18041)? I have seen an update via the Sightmark website, but only for other languages.

I bought my Mini last year and I have not attempted any kind of firmware update, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any necessary updates.

Also, any preferences on where along the rail to mount the IR light? I've been moving mine around in an attempt to find the "sweet" spot.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Wraith mini - 04/21/22 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Dzhitshard
The mini wraith is one of my new favorite rigs.
I sold my 4k 2x about 6 months ago waiting for these to finally be available.
I have a passel of thermals a Pulsar digital NV optic and a Gen3 NV 3x optic.
It took about 30 minutes of getting reacquainted with the nuances of digital NV and I was on a tear with the varmint reduction. My hunting buddies were using a 25mm Rattler and my Gen3 night scope and are accomplished night guys. I was on target quick enough with an $19 Amazon adjustable focus 950nm flashlight that f it was a competition they'd hardly have gotten a shot off.

Can you post a link to the flashlight?
Posted By: mikei

Re: Wraith mini - 04/21/22 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by patriot07
Originally Posted by Dzhitshard
The mini wraith is one of my new favorite rigs.
I sold my 4k 2x about 6 months ago waiting for these to finally be available.
I have a passel of thermals a Pulsar digital NV optic and a Gen3 NV 3x optic.
It took about 30 minutes of getting reacquainted with the nuances of digital NV and I was on a tear with the varmint reduction. My hunting buddies were using a 25mm Rattler and my Gen3 night scope and are accomplished night guys. I was on target quick enough with an $19 Amazon adjustable focus 950nm flashlight that f it was a competition they'd hardly have gotten a shot off.

Can you post a link to the flashlight?

Here you go, patriot:
https://www.amazon.com/WAYLLSHINE-F...lluminator&qid=1650538954&sr=8-5
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Wraith mini - 04/21/22 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by mikei
Originally Posted by patriot07
Originally Posted by Dzhitshard
The mini wraith is one of my new favorite rigs.
I sold my 4k 2x about 6 months ago waiting for these to finally be available.
I have a passel of thermals a Pulsar digital NV optic and a Gen3 NV 3x optic.
It took about 30 minutes of getting reacquainted with the nuances of digital NV and I was on a tear with the varmint reduction. My hunting buddies were using a 25mm Rattler and my Gen3 night scope and are accomplished night guys. I was on target quick enough with an $19 Amazon adjustable focus 950nm flashlight that f it was a competition they'd hardly have gotten a shot off.

Can you post a link to the flashlight?

Here you go, patriot:
https://www.amazon.com/WAYLLSHINE-F...lluminator&qid=1650538954&sr=8-5

Thanks!

Is this better than the one that comes with the original Wraith?
Posted By: gr8fuldoug

Re: Wraith mini - 04/21/22 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by WattoHunt
Does anybody know if there is a firmware update for the Wraith Mini (SM18041)? I have seen an update via the Sightmark website, but only for other languages.




The only firmware updates for the Wraith Mini 4K currently are for languages. If you speak English, then you're are good to go right now.
Posted By: Dzhitshard

Re: Wraith mini - 04/23/22 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by patriot07
Originally Posted by mikei
Originally Posted by patriot07
Originally Posted by Dzhitshard
The mini wraith is one of my new favorite rigs.
I sold my 4k 2x about 6 months ago waiting for these to finally be available.
I have a passel of thermals a Pulsar digital NV optic and a Gen3 NV 3x optic.
It took about 30 minutes of getting reacquainted with the nuances of digital NV and I was on a tear with the varmint reduction. My hunting buddies were using a 25mm Rattler and my Gen3 night scope and are accomplished night guys. I was on target quick enough with an $19 Amazon adjustable focus 950nm flashlight that f it was a competition they'd hardly have gotten a shot off.

Can you post a link to the flashlight?

Here you go, patriot:
https://www.amazon.com/WAYLLSHINE-F...lluminator&qid=1650538954&sr=8-5

Thanks!

Is this better than the one that comes with the original Wraith?



The one that came with the Wraith is more complicated than it needs to be for my uses.

That amazon one is simple click on and focus the bezel vs the OEM Sightmark light that had multiple power settings etc. Getting lost on the clicks cost me a couple coyotes previously so I don't use it. If it were the only light I had to memorize I'd do it but I have more illuminators than fingers and with that many combinations I find the simpler they are the more effective I am with them.
Posted By: erathar

Re: Wraith mini - 04/24/22 12:06 AM

What do these scopes go for?
Posted By: mikei

Re: Wraith mini - 04/24/22 12:49 AM

Less then $20 on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/WAYLLSHINE-F...lluminator&qid=1650538954&sr=8-5
Posted By: BigDad

Re: Wraith mini - 04/24/22 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by mikei
Originally Posted by patriot07
Originally Posted by Dzhitshard
The mini wraith is one of my new favorite rigs.
I sold my 4k 2x about 6 months ago waiting for these to finally be available.
I have a passel of thermals a Pulsar digital NV optic and a Gen3 NV 3x optic.
It took about 30 minutes of getting reacquainted with the nuances of digital NV and I was on a tear with the varmint reduction. My hunting buddies were using a 25mm Rattler and my Gen3 night scope and are accomplished night guys. I was on target quick enough with an $19 Amazon adjustable focus 950nm flashlight that f it was a competition they'd hardly have gotten a shot off.

Can you post a link to the flashlight?

Here you go, patriot:
https://www.amazon.com/WAYLLSHINE-F...lluminator&qid=1650538954&sr=8-5


940NM lights have a lot less range than 850NM. People use the 940 because it suppose to be less visible to game than the 850. I bought used Sightmark Signal 340RT monocular with a 940NM illuminator built-in for a great price because the former owner couldn't see much more 50 yards with it. I mounted a aftermarket 850 illuminator on it and can now see past 300 yds. I have never had an animal spook from the 850NM light. Deer and coyotes can see it and will look at it but don't really seem to care. Pigs don't notice it at all. I guess if I was going to hunt a bow range the 940NM might have an advantage.

I can easily see 200+ yards with the OEM 850NM illuminator that came with my Wraiths. I do have an after market illuminator 850 that is brighter but I rarely use it, its bigger and heavier and really don't need it most of the time.

The key to getting the most out of the the illuminator is to adjust the focus to its narrowest beam, then center the beam in your scope's field of view, then tighten down the 2 allen head screws so it won't move. Then you can adjust the beam focus to a wider beam that fills your field of view and gives the best image.
Posted By: ChasCZ

Re: Wraith mini - 04/24/22 04:44 PM

I got my Wraith Mini this week and got to sight it in today. I turned if off every time I went to check the target. Turn it back on and the time and date resets back to original. Batteries were left in. I just shut it down, to save the batteries, Anyone else have this problem? Is there a fix?
Posted By: BigDad

Re: Wraith mini - 04/26/22 12:47 PM

I would email Sightmark technical support and ask them, their customer support is excellent and every time I've reached out they have responded promptly.
https://support.sightmark.com/hc/en...How-do-I-contact-Sightmark-Tech-Support-
Posted By: ChasCZ

Re: Wraith mini - 04/26/22 03:06 PM

Thank You. Anybody else have this problem?
Posted By: der Teufel

Re: Wraith mini - 04/26/22 03:37 PM

I don't have a Wraith Mini, but I have an original Photon IR scope. I had a problem with it after a while, and I second BigDad in saying that their customer service is excellent.
Posted By: mikei

Re: Wraith mini - 04/26/22 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by ChasCZ
I got my Wraith Mini this week and got to sight it in today. I turned if off every time I went to check the target. Turn it back on and the time and date resets back to original. Batteries were left in. I just shut it down, to save the batteries, Anyone else have this problem? Is there a fix?


I just got mine today and immediately tried cycling it on and off several times and it kept all my settings. Sightmark will fix it for you or replace the scope if it's defective. They're good in the support arena!
Posted By: ChasCZ

Re: Wraith mini - 04/26/22 08:24 PM

Just got an email from them and it has to go back for repair/replace. Waiting on an RMA. Kind of reminds me of ATN.
Posted By: ChasCZ

Re: Wraith mini - 04/26/22 08:51 PM

I just received a return number to write in large letters on the package along with the address. It seems I have to pay to ship a defective product back to them. Who said they have GREAT customer service?
Posted By: der Teufel

Re: Wraith mini - 04/27/22 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by ChasCZ
I just received a return number to write in large letters on the package along with the address. It seems I have to pay to ship a defective product back to them. Who said they have GREAT customer service?


I did!

You may not think it's perfect, but it's light-years ahead of pretty much everyone else.
Posted By: Bigfoot

Re: Wraith mini - 04/27/22 12:41 AM

My mini had no problems in my first range usage. i will try it again this weekend
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