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2022 Gubernatorial race and guns

Posted By: TCM3

2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/13/21 10:45 PM

Heard matthew mcconaughey floated the idea of a gubernatorial bid. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tric-actor-is-considering-it/ar-BB1ewwqw
just remember this if he does run.
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“In 2018, he appeared in a March for Our Lives rally where he endorsed the group and gun control. He also openly backs the ‘assault weapons’ and ‘high capacity’ magazine bans.”

“One, let’s ban the assault weapons for civilians. This is a no-brainer,” he declared. “And to my friends out there, that are responsible owners of these assault weapons that they use for recreation, please let’s take one for the team and set it down.”

https://libertyconservativenews.com...vernor-would-not-be-good-for-gun-rights/
and i don't care if he is a Longhorn bolt
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/13/21 11:11 PM

F him and the Longhorns.
Posted By: Bigfoot

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/14/21 06:35 AM

I actually agree with mcconaghey.. Assault weapons should be banned. Thankfully an AR is not considered an Assault weapon unless it is full auto. I wonder if he actually knows this?
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/14/21 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I actually agree with mcconaghey.. Assault weapons should be banned. Thankfully an AR is not considered an Assault weapon unless it is full auto. I wonder if he actually knows this?



Not even full auto should br banned. Nothing should be banned.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/14/21 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I actually agree with mcconaghey.. Assault weapons should be banned. Thankfully an AR is not considered an Assault weapon unless it is full auto. I wonder if he actually knows this?

Well, what do you think AR stands for? wink wink grin
Posted By: Walkabout

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/14/21 02:33 PM

What is ArmaLite Rifle? Rifles and handguns for $200 please.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/14/21 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Walkabout
What is ArmaLite Rifle? Rifles and handguns for $200 please.

up ding ding ding ding $$$$
Posted By: Texas buckeye

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/14/21 07:31 PM

The right to bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

The whole militia thing gets non gun owners confused, they think it means the military or a standing militia...the citizens in the day were the militia. We have to take the words in proper context for what they were written. The militia was the citizenry, and the guns they owned at the time could have been better than what the british military had...there goes the argument about citizens not needing “military grade” weapons.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/14/21 07:40 PM

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
Posted By: leswad

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/15/21 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I actually agree with mcconaghey.. Assault weapons should be banned. Thankfully an AR is not considered an Assault weapon unless it is full auto. I wonder if he actually knows this?



Not even full auto should br banned. Nothing should be banned.


This!
up
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/15/21 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
F him and the Longhorns.
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/15/21 04:19 AM

F him and all of hollywood.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/15/21 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by 2Beez
F him and all of hollywood.

Well articulated.
Posted By: Dave Scott

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/16/21 03:55 PM

Yes, to my knowledge assault weapons (full auto) are banned. That makes the AR-15 just another semi-auto like the old Ruger, etc. On the Second Amendment, back when W and Gore were running for President, Gore said he didn't have a problem with a firearm for small game like birds and rabbits. The "well regulated" militia means we are focusing on firearms suitable for defending America. Just because the government may oversee the militia in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY means the government issues the firearms. One of the first pieces of legislation the Congress passed under the Constitution was the Uniform Militia Acts of 1792 and 1793 that REQUIRED you to report to militia duty with YOUR OWN suitable musket or rifle plus ammunition.
There's the big argument about a "collective" right because the word "People" is used rather than person, so was an individual right recognized? An individual right absolutely exists under the 9th and 10th amendment because it existed at the time the Constitution was enacted but in the Second Amendment former Chief Justice Burger made this "Leap in Logic" that since people was used then it is a "collective" right and a "Collective right" then means the government. How you logically get there escapes me. In any event my contention is the government can probably look to ONE PERSON. Joe Smith in California wants to buy a gun so the government wants a criminal background check. Well does that effect everyone else in America from buying or keeping their firearms? Not really. The background check reveals Joe Smith was found guilty of murder and by DUE PROCESS of law was barred from owning firearms (Years ago Joe would have just been hung).
So "People" If a law says NO ONE in New York City can own a firearm. There is no due process denying a right, it is a categorical disarming of every citizen. That's PEOPLE and in my opinion that law would be absolutely unconstitutional. It infringes on the People.
Article 1, Section 8 gives Congress the power to arm, discipline, train the militia. That's what gave them the authority to pass the Uniform Militia Acts. If "Only" people suitable for serving in the militia have this right to keep and bear arms, beyond infringement.
Posted By: The Dude Abides

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/16/21 04:24 PM

Full Auto is NOT banned. They are regulated through the National Firearms Act (NFA).
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/16/21 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
Full Auto is NOT banned. They are regulated through the National Firearms Act (NFA).
Posted By: TLew

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/16/21 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by TXGUNNER308
Full Auto is NOT banned. They are regulated through the National Firearms Act (NFA).



Sans the manufacturing, distribution, and sale of modern automatics. They effectively banned automatics and grandfathered existing. Let's call it gray area
Posted By: fadetoblack64

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/16/21 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Scott
Yes, to my knowledge assault weapons (full auto) are banned. That makes the AR-15 just another semi-auto like the old Ruger, etc. On the Second Amendment, back when W and Gore were running for President, Gore said he didn't have a problem with a firearm for small game like birds and rabbits. The "well regulated" militia means we are focusing on firearms suitable for defending America. Just because the government may oversee the militia in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY means the government issues the firearms. One of the first pieces of legislation the Congress passed under the Constitution was the Uniform Militia Acts of 1792 and 1793 that REQUIRED you to report to militia duty with YOUR OWN suitable musket or rifle plus ammunition.
There's the big argument about a "collective" right because the word "People" is used rather than person, so was an individual right recognized? An individual right absolutely exists under the 9th and 10th amendment because it existed at the time the Constitution was enacted but in the Second Amendment former Chief Justice Burger made this "Leap in Logic" that since people was used then it is a "collective" right and a "Collective right" then means the government. How you logically get there escapes me. In any event my contention is the government can probably look to ONE PERSON. Joe Smith in California wants to buy a gun so the government wants a criminal background check. Well does that effect everyone else in America from buying or keeping their firearms? Not really. The background check reveals Joe Smith was found guilty of murder and by DUE PROCESS of law was barred from owning firearms (Years ago Joe would have just been hung).
So "People" If a law says NO ONE in New York City can own a firearm. There is no due process denying a right, it is a categorical disarming of every citizen. That's PEOPLE and in my opinion that law would be absolutely unconstitutional. It infringes on the People.
Article 1, Section 8 gives Congress the power to arm, discipline, train the militia. That's what gave them the authority to pass the Uniform Militia Acts. If "Only" people suitable for serving in the militia have this right to keep and bear arms, beyond infringement.




Yep......kill them all and let god sort them out
Posted By: TCM3

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/17/21 12:47 AM

Hehehehe,
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Posted By: rogerh

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/17/21 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Hehehehe,
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True dat
Posted By: Bigfoot

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/17/21 10:57 AM

I am OK with full autos being an NFA item and being mostly unavailable to the normal public. Let the Dems think they are doing something by keeping military weapons' out of the public s hands. Although it says not to be infringed we all know that there are some rules and regulations so lets keep those rules and regulations to make the Dems happy. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot.
Posted By: bjh

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/17/21 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I am OK with full autos being an NFA item and being mostly unavailable to the normal public. Let the Dems think they are doing something by keeping military weapons' out of the public s hands. Although it says not to be infringed we all know that there are some rules and regulations so lets keep those rules and regulations to make the Dems happy. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot.


Waste of time typing, we are talking DEM's here!!!!!


Give them an inch and they come back to get a mile. Fight the SOB'S now, or they will take them all away!!!!!
Posted By: TCM3

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/17/21 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by bjh
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I am OK with full autos being an NFA item and being mostly unavailable to the normal public. Let the Dems think they are doing something by keeping military weapons' out of the public s hands. Although it says not to be infringed we all know that there are some rules and regulations so lets keep those rules and regulations to make the Dems happy. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot.


Waste of time typing, we are talking DEM's here!!!!!


Give them an inch and they come back to get a mile. Fight the SOB'S now, or they will take them all away!!!!!

Can't disagree at all. up
Posted By: GNTX

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/18/21 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by bjh
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I am OK with full autos being an NFA item and being mostly unavailable to the normal public. Let the Dems think they are doing something by keeping military weapons' out of the public s hands. Although it says not to be infringed we all know that there are some rules and regulations so lets keep those rules and regulations to make the Dems happy. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot.


Waste of time typing, we are talking DEM's here!!!!!


Give them an inch and they come back to get a mile. Fight the SOB'S now, or they will take them all away!!!!!


Yup.


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Posted By: Maddog

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/19/21 12:42 PM

I'd like to know where THEY get their information from.
Posted By: TEXASLEFTY

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/19/21 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by TCM3
Hehehehe,
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Why did he type our and Texas?

He’s not a Texan.
Posted By: TCM3

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/19/21 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by TEXASLEFTY
Originally Posted by TCM3
Hehehehe,
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Why did he type our and Texas?

He’s not a Texan.

Apparently he's enough of a Texan to run for governor confused2
Posted By: Erny

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/19/21 11:10 PM

Is Abbott not running? Why would Mathew M. Even think he stands a chance?
Posted By: TCM3

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/20/21 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Erny
Is Abbott not running? Why would Mathew M. Even think he stands a chance?

Oh abbott is running alright. I just won't like him as much in the Primaries.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/20/21 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I am OK with full autos being an NFA item and being mostly unavailable to the normal public. Let the Dems think they are doing something by keeping military weapons' out of the public s hands. Although it says not to be infringed we all know that there are some rules and regulations so lets keep those rules and regulations to make the Dems happy. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot.



I need full auto, because hogs.

Too expensive to obtain.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/22/21 02:31 PM

there is a lot more full auto stuff out there than we know about. Its ALL in the wrong hands.
Posted By: soooo

Re: 2022 Gubernatorial race and guns - 03/22/21 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
there is a lot more full auto stuff out there than we know about. Its ALL in the wrong hands.


How do you know if we don't know? Are you an agent provocateur?
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