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Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]?
Not to say it came from the horses mouth but I am just passing along info I was told from a reliable source. Hunters and landowners were complaining and have been about all the young deer being killed on public and private property and wanted something done about it. The public wanted some type of restrictions on buck deer. TPWD did a survey and held many public meetings to get responses from landowners and hunters alike. It was like a 83% majority for the new antler resrictions. Here is a statistic , 10 years of data showed that 77% of all deer killed statewide would not be considered a legal buck this season. What do yall think? I am just telling yall what I was told. Good luck this year to all and safe hunting.
Posted By: Txguy1972
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/21/06 11:44 PM
I love the 13in. rule. Wished the entire state would go too it. This post will make many people mad, but hey it is what it is. Contrary to what most think, deer hunting in Texas will become better if you just give it a chance.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 12:12 AM
Are you just trying to stir things back up or are you being serious. I know, you have been on here long enough to know better. This issue is going on, on about 3 different threads, do we REALLY need another one.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 12:15 AM
Welcome to The Forum. The 13 inch rule is not needed or practical statewide, and I am one of the nice ones on this issue.
Posted By: Txguy1972
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 12:40 AM
Well from the way I see it, on another thread we are harvesting more does for an overall better deer herd? Yet we are all up in arms because we can't harvest 1.5 to 2.5 year old bucks that are less than 13 inches? Just looking for a little help on justification.
Posted By: redchevy
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 12:49 AM
I think the 13 inch rule is a good thing, however I dont believe that 77% of the deer shot in previous years would not have passed to be leagal deer, 77 percent is alot, and it dont take much of a deer to make it past 13 inches.
matt
Posted By: operationporkchop
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 01:35 AM
Not trying to stir it up crazyhorse. I've been here for a while and I don't like to stir things up. I just have alot of fun on here reading everyones posts and learning new things. This one time I had a little info whether it was worth it or not and thought I would throw it out there. I keep reading all the posts on this subject and never saw any info like this. Take it for what its worth. We'll talk to you on another post crazyhorse,later.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 01:53 AM
Hold on OPC, don't get your knickers in a twist and cut a trail.
I said what I did, because you have been on here about as long as I have.
The business about the 13 inch regs, were hashed out last year and they are being hashed out on 2 or 3 threads right now.
If you are going to get upset over what I said, then you need to grow a thicker hide.
If you posted it without knowing that the issue was a sore spot on here, than I apologise for jumping on you. If you posted it being funny than either apologise to me for getting caught at it, or admit to it. Real simple.
If all you ever look at, is what is posted in the hog hunting section, then it might be a good idea to see what is going on, on the rest of The Forum.
I apologise if I offended you, but I felt like your post was just stirring an already boiling pot.
Posted By: TXBowhunter1
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 02:04 AM
this has been on here ALOT. its been around for a while. i love that i am in a 5 deer county without the 13 inch rule.
Posted By: BigBow
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 02:35 AM
amen, hard to cull them spikes...
Posted By: dgilbert
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 02:50 AM
Lets beat the horse again.
I do see how there is anything else to be said on the 13" so called rule.
Posted By: Txguy1972
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 03:06 AM
Did not figure I would get much of a response to my question. The question was, "what is the justification of harvesting more does and complaining because you can't shoot a 1.5 or a 2.5 year old 13 or less inch deer?" I don't care what part of the state you are in. Give me one negative impact that this would have on a deer herd. I'm not talking of "trophy" animals, but of overall deer herd.
I hear of East Texas not being able to harvest does other than a few select days of November, yet someone is wanting to take the first buck that walks out? Could the reason be a limited huntable population of deer in this area? So someone tell me how regulating deer harvest for both bucks and does is going to hurt this region of Texas. Does it mean you may go a season without deer meat? It's very possible, but are we hunting or killing? Does it mean you may have wasted $500.00-$1000.00? I certainly hope not, but if the meat and money is that hard to come by, it might be best to hunt public land or buy a steer to feed your family and sit out a year.
For the Hill Country and Southwest Texas, how would a 13 inch rule hurt this region? From what I see many are interested in the control of does in this region. I also gather that many are not "trophy" hunters and don't care if the deer has horns or not. So why would someone harvest a 13 inch or less deer when taking a doe, 2 or 3 for meat would be better for the herd? Wouldn't it make sense to let that young buck go? If you are a "trophy" hunter you would not be looking at a 13 inch deer anyway.
Why is South Texas and Mexico such a hot bed for "true trophy" whitetails? They don't harvest young bucks and they control the doe population.
Most are going to say next, that the people in South Texas and Mexico pay 3 times what I pay at my lease to hunt those big deer. You are correct. What difference does it make what you pay for a deer lease? Conservation is priceless.
I beg someone to tell me how a 13 inch rule is going to have a negative impact on the overall deer herd in Texas. My only complaint to this rule is that it took The State of Texas to tell us how to control our deer herd. Regulation of too much or too little should be common sense.
Our concern is the overall deer herd of Texas right?
Nope. Not gonna bite. Not this time.
Posted By: Big Orn
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 10:28 AM
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By TBH1
this has been on here ALOT. its been around for a while. i love that i am in a 5 deer county without the 13 inch rule.
AMEN!!! 
I'm not gonna go into this again, but....nah, ain't getting into this again... 
Quote:
by DG
Lets beat the horse again. I do see how there is anything else to be said on the 13" so called rule.
LOL!! "so called..." 
Posted By: HWY_MAN
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 12:32 PM
I don't know if it's 70% or not, but one thing i do know is, how amazed i was, when i took my buck to the processors last year. There was at least 40 bucks hanging in there, with about 5 that were over the 13 inch rule. And this is a 5 deer county.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 12:44 PM
Does anyone have the instructions for "Beating a Dead Horse". Great joke/paper. Would love to have it if someone has a copy.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 12:55 PM
Try checking out the following threads, they should answer some of your questions.
Under Open Hunting Discussion:
Controlling your doe population.
13" rule in my county.
Under Deer Hunting:
12",13",14" rule.
Last year there were just as many or more going on about this same time.
Please take the time to go thru those threads, because everything you have asked is covered in those 3 threads, plus they are still active threads.
Found it!
1. Buy a stronger whip.
2. Change riders.
3. Say things like, "This is the way we've always ridden this horse."
4. Arrange to visit other sites to see how they ride their dead horses.
5. Increase the standards to ride dead horses.
6. Appoint a Tiger Team to revive the dead horse.
7. Create a training session to increase riding ability.
8. Pass legislation that declares, " The horse is not dead."
9. Harness several Dead Horses together for increased speed.
10. Declare with a policy directive and operating instruction that no dead horse is too dead to beat.
11. Do a cost analysis to determine if contractors can ride the dead horse cheaper.
12. Buy a commercial off-the-shelf dead horse.
13. Declare that the horse is better, faster, and cheaper dead.
14. Form an IPT to find uses for dead horses.
15. Revisit the key performance parameters (KPPs) for dead horses.
16. Say the horse was procured making CAIV-based decisions.
17. BRAC the horse farm on which the dead horse was born.
18. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.
19. Name the dead horse "Paradigm Shift" and keep riding it.
20. Ride the dead horse "smarter," not harder.
21. Call the dead horse "joint" and let others ride it.
22. Ride the dead horse "outside the box."
23. Kill all the other horses.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 01:30 PM
Or as Eathan Edwards said in the "Searchers", "A White man will ride a horse till it dies, and then take off on foot. A Comanch will come along, get that same horse up, ride it another 30 miles then eat it."
I am sorry, there just ain't no way that anyone that participates on The Forum at all, could have not been aware of all the static that has been raised on here over the past 2 years about the Antler regs and how everyone feels about them. JMO.
Posted By: Txduckman
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 03:45 PM
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Why is South Texas and Mexico such a hot bed for "true trophy" whitetails? They don't harvest young bucks and they control the doe population.
They do too harvest young bucks. Typically as many MLP tags as they can get their hands on which might be 10 or 100 buck tags. Most will shoot all spikes and any bucks 8 points and less that are over 2.5 years old. Some might use different ages but it is standard practice to cull a ton of them little guys. Of course we are talking large tracts of land which East Texas does not have. Just try not to compare South Texas to East Texas.
Posted By: ILUVBIGBUCKS
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 08:30 PM
The 13" rule is the state's way of trying to control the killing of 1.5 and 2.5 year old bucks! Is it the perfect way to do it? Of course not, but if anyone has a better way to do it post it here and by all means write to your state rep. I do not hunt in any of these counties but I can see how some people would be upset. I also know what would upset me about it is not the fact that I couldn't shoot a pretty little 2.5 year old 8pt but that if a 4.5 year old 6 point walked out, I wouldn't legally be able to help the gene pool by smoking his A$$! I'm not taking up for the TP&W Dept but I will give credit where it is due and at least they're trying to do something about the over-harvest of young bucks.
This law is similar to the size limits on all of the game fish in Texas' waters. I've heard mostly positive feed back from hunters where this law has been effect so maybe in a couple of years we will be seeing some very positive posts on this matter???
Posted By: Txguy1972
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/22/06 11:27 PM
MLP permits are used for the sole purpose of control and management of a deer herd on a particlar ranch. Ranches with these permits also have extended seasons and do not have to abide by state laws that govern ranches not in this program.
Posted By: operationporkchop
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/23/06 01:26 AM
Holy smokes crazyhorse do you just want to start crap with anybody. It doesn't take much for you to get your panties in a whad. I wasn't cutting a trail anywhere. I have never been negative to anyone on this forum since I started over 2 years ago. Beating a dead horse or not then just skip my thread and go to the next. I am sorry that I don't have the time to sit on the computer all day and read all the posts. I am not retired, I have a family of 4 and try to catch up on all thats going on here so just let up. Holy sh** I can't believe what you said to me I am steaming. You must be an old disturbed man with a one track mind. Your way or the highway. I have never been like this but you just hit a nerve. I will be looking for your so wise response.
Posted By: swampthang
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/23/06 03:08 AM
OPC is right...you need to back off and tone it down a notch CHC.You're not the forum police/nazi although you seem to have self-appointed yourself as such.Nobody likes to be fussed at and brow-beatin.Take your meds and relax!
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/23/06 03:55 AM
I ain't trying to be The Forum police, and I don't believe that I was the only one that said something about this being an old subject. You can steam all you want to I don't care how mad you get at me. The point of fact is, I was only the first to point out that this was old news, maybe you need to go back and read my second post to you and think about what I was getting at.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/23/06 04:02 AM
Who rattled your chain, this is between me and OPC and you need to stay out of it. I was not trying to offened the man, nor was I brow beating him, nor was I the only one that pointed out that this was an old issue. He appears to me to be quite able to take up for himself, without a peanut gallery mouthing off in the background. JMO.
Posted By: Txguy1972
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/23/06 10:23 PM
Your comment that there should be "no game management in Texas" was the most absurd thing I have ever heard!
I have read many post with many different view points. I agree with some, and some I don't.
That one takes the cake!
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/23/06 11:43 PM
I want you to show me anywhere, on any thread that I have said there should be "NO GAME MANAGEMENT IN TEXAS". You lied flat footed, I have never said that. You find it and show it to me and the rest of the membership. You need to learn how to read, and don't make assumptions, YOU DO KNOW WHAT ASSUME MEANS DON'T YOU???
Posted By: Txguy1972
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/24/06 12:36 AM
You said it, however you must have realized what you said and edited it out. If you will go back and look at the day you edited your post 9/22/06.
Posted By: Txguy1972
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/24/06 01:14 AM
Forgive me I was wrong, it was not on this thread. If you will go back to recent post of Re: Serious Deer Regulations/Governace Question, really.....Your last statement is and you quote
"No, we do not need to go back to the dark ages of game management in TEXAS, FOR ANY REASON."
Thats pretty much saying you are not for game managemant in Texas.
Posted By: Huntalot
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/24/06 03:20 AM
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Thats pretty much saying you are not for game managemant in Texas.
I beg to differ.... Seems like CHC was saying that the days of county commissioners governing wildlife regs were the dark ages and we don't need to go back to those. He wasn't saying anything about not being for game mgmt.
Sorry - but it seems to me that you owe CHC an apology 
Huntalot
Posted By: dgilbert
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/24/06 12:19 PM
CHC was talking about local government managemnet.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/24/06 12:34 PM
1. I am not asking for an apology, just get your facts straight.
2. The edit I made was in my spelling of one word, and that was all. My original thought is still there.
I grew up during the time the County Commisioners Courts in about a third or maybe even half of the counties in the state, set the seasons and bag limits, and hunting was not the business it is today. In fact I remember a time when deer leases, what few they were, went for less than a dollar an acre, and no one charged for dove or quail hunting.
Until TP&W gained regulatory authority over all 254 counties there was no, nor could there be any pracrtical game management, except in the counties TP&W did control.
I have been interested in wildlife and hunting and game management, probably since before you were a gleam in your Daddy's eyes, unless I am way of on how old you maybe.
Texas has been on the cutting edge of wildlife management in many areas for the past 30 years, and I like it that way. This isn't anything I have changed my position on since way before I joined The Forum.
Sorry to have come down on you so hard, but it might help if you got the lay of the land and really read some of the posts on some of these threads about such things as the antler regs, and see where some of us stand on such issues and how we feel about the job TP&W does.
Posted By: Bucket
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/25/06 02:30 AM
OPC, you are spot on. It is humorous to see how people will reply under the safety of the net. I doubt they would be willing to run their mouth the same in real life (face to face). These same people detract from this forum - it is a valuable source of info.
Hope to see you out there.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/25/06 01:17 PM
That works both ways, and I have never met ANYONE, that I wouldn't say the same thing to in person, that I put on here.
On thing I have found out, and I have met a bunch of THF members face to face, words on a computer screen are just that, and when people are face to face a person can tell when someone else is being serious or BS'ing.
My question to you is, do you have something to add to this subject, or are you just trying to keep the pot stirred?
Posted By: jbhlsu
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/25/06 01:52 PM
boys...boys...boys...It is a LAW and thats it...Just drink a beer and get over it....JMO I hunt in one of those counties..
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boys...boys...boys...It is a LAW and thats it...Just drink a beer and get over it....JMO I hunt in one of those counties..
There's a good idea! Why can't we all get a long..........neck?
You are all welcome to have your opinion, you are just wrong!!! Just kidding.
I do think it is absurd that someone can kill two bucks in East Texas and Archer County is one buck.
Posted By: PKnTX
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/25/06 04:51 PM
[quote
I do think it is absurd that someone can kill two bucks in East Texas and Archer County is one buck.
Come on, you know in any trophy management program
you've got to take out the culls. 
DERN IT!! Here I go again, typing about stuff
I know nothing about. Sorry y'all.
PK
Quote:
[quote
I do think it is absurd that someone can kill two bucks in East Texas and Archer County is one buck. [/quo
Come on, you know in any trophy management program
you've got to take out the culls.
DERN IT!! Here I go again, typing about stuff
I know nothing about. Sorry y'all.
PK
I see how you are, trying to get me all riled up, well it ain't happening, I resigned from the anti crowd, just waiting for Sunday morning (yes I know, but I have to work Saturday).
All them rules don't mean much to me, everything I have shot in the last few years would have been legal anyway, (except a slick-browed 6 point, but he needed removal).
Posted By: Bucket
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/26/06 02:24 AM
CHC, I guess this is your hobby now during retirement.
The 13 inch rule is an attempt to manage deer in East Texas, but it will be marginally effective. Law abiding hunters will obey it, but not everyone. Too many East TX hunters will continue to kill the first buck they see opening morning. If it isn't legal they will leave it or cut it up and into their freezer it will go. The other major problem in East TX is the poachers. I was on a lease a few years ago that had a harvest rule that the hunters obeyed, but the locals didn't give a crap and they kept hunting this place and killing does and bucks, any deer they could shoot. Very effective management... In other areas you don't have the population density and therefore the hunting pressure and poaching - sometimes year round. That's my take... East TX has lots of hunters compared to other parts of the state, where you can watch a feeder and select the deer you want to shoot. The new rule may help; time will tell. I hope it does.
You ask if I am trying to keep the pot stirred? That's your self-appointed position. I'm just stating that you enjoy free speech without consequences of substance, fortunately for you...
The 13 inch rule is a joke. Unless the buck will pose for the hunter facing directly at him, clear from tree limbs, in good light, HOW can you measure the antler width? It's an attempt at best.
OPC states figures he received from a reliable source (TP&W is my bet) that 70+% of deer harvested in the past would not be legal deer under the new rule. That sounds about right for what I see each year. I seriously doubt that most hunters will accept the new rule and pay their $500 - $1,000+ for their lease and not be able to harvest a deer. But again, time will tell.
Lastly, since this is a change with a very significant impact on most East TX hunters, if there is more than one thread on the topic (because OPC doesn't scan this page as often as the retired folks), that isn't a problem. We should discuss this issue, and perhaps make it a sticky to keep it fresh.
Posted By: outback_bobo
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/26/06 05:13 AM
Im with Bucket. I am from east texas and hunt east texas. Alot of hunters hunt this area. Our local hunters 40 and up that hunted here didnt start hunting deer for horns at all. My dads family raised peanuts from the 30s-50s, He says the deer just moved in and started eating their crops. No Crops No Money! I believe we need to not kill any bucks for a few seasons around here just two does at the most a year. I have seen the Estaban Gonzales deer in person from Alto. I like the horn structure. Tall Massive Chalky-Chocoish and symetrical. Watch out Texas East Texas is about to surprise you
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/26/06 01:43 PM
First off, I am getting sick and tired of all the comments about being retired. You nor OPC have ever met me and don't know one thing about me except that I have no problem speaking my mind either in person or on here.
Secondly, as I have said many times in the past, I am only against the antler regs state wide, or when they keep people in some counties from being able to kill a deer period.
Since some folks seem to think that they are so busy that it is easier to post stuff, than read some of the stuff that has been posted, they haven't paid any attention to the fact that some of the opposition to the antler regs has died down since they(TP&W) gave hunters the ability to shoot a spike, along with a legal buck. Also in the counties where doe are legal all or part of the season there is less opposition.
I just do not support the regs state wide. They will be in place in all of the old ONE BUCK counties in the next 5 years, but would be impractical in places like the hill country simply because there are too damn many deer.
As far as your crack about "Consequences of Substance." I have farted on bigger and better men than you will ever be, and I ain't been slowed down yet.
In your words, things change when people meet face to face.
Posted By: PHishTX
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/26/06 06:44 PM
Bucket said
Quote:
"The 13 inch rule is an attempt to manage deer in East Texas, but it will be marginally effective."
Bucket,
This is NOT an EAST TEXAS regulation.
He77 it started in So. Centeral Texas, by a coop who petitioned TPWD for help. It has just spread to East Texas and 41 counties like a cancer.
Phish-TX
Posted By: Bucket
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/27/06 01:51 AM
I hear that older folks have trouble controlling their bodily functions... don't they make some meds for your condition?
Have fun this season old man. It may be your last.
CHC and I agree sometimes and sometimes not. Some of you know me and know that I am the same, day in day out, in person or on here or on the phone.......blunt and direct.
I actually would like to see bigger deer on our RedRiver Co and Archer County leases.........but I don't like the state telling me what to do, period. And I can guarandamntee you that I say that to anyone, anytime, anyplace.
I have never met Randall, but I think he and I would argue till the fire goes out when we disagree. Then toast one last more and hunt together in the morning. I guess I am getting to be an old SOB too, at 41 next month.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/27/06 02:04 AM
Is that a threat?? Some of you East Texas boys think you are plenty bad, but you need to crawl out from under those trees and see what daylight really looks like.
I ain't really sure what your problem is, and I am going to get in trouble with the moderators for this, but you are letting that BUCKET MOUTH overload your HUMMING BIRD ASS.
You have to be one arrogant S.O.B., to run your head at someone you ain't never met. Now see I am stupid enough to keep this going, and yes I will be in trouble with the moderators and JP, but I figure that you have called me out, and because you can do it over the internet, you ain't got the guts or the cahones to back up that Bucket Mouth.
Posted By: HunterTed
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/27/06 04:11 AM
Posted By: SaginawHunter
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/27/06 05:14 AM
Hey brother quit hoging the popcorn!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: HighTechRedneck
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/27/06 06:36 PM
Aw H E double L L guys, don't make me be the bad. Like Ma used to say, YOU 2 TAKE THAT OUTSIDE AND GIT OUTTA MY HOUSE, WAIT'LL YORE PA GET'S HOME. Really guys easy does it. Agree, disagree I could give a rats arse it makes reading interesting but get the chip off the shoulders or take it somewhere else. IT IS A FAMILY SHOW. Muchas Gracious! BTW, I replied to CHC cause he was closest, this is for all.
Posted By: Crazyhorse
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/27/06 11:43 PM
Point taken and noted. I apologise to the membership, with the exception of Bucket, for my post. I have just got really tired of the "Peanut Gallery Kids" wanting to jump in on something that they were not involved in. Hopefully one of these days I will finally join the ranks of adults and will stop letting such folks bait me. Hopefully all of us will live long enough to see that day.
I will try to behave myself.
Posted By: Bucket
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 01:59 AM
Posted By: prater
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 03:22 AM
Here is my question.
How can I be sure the buck is over 13' before I take the shot?
Posted By: chestnut
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 03:32 AM
prater, I asked that question just yesterday. The answer I was given was that the horizontal distance between a deer's ears is about 13".
Posted By: dgilbert
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 10:12 AM
Look in the TP&W regulation book, it gives a example.
Posted By: HighTechRedneck
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 10:45 AM
Quote:
Here is my question.
How can I be sure the buck is over 13' before I take the shot?
Take a grunt call, when he steps out put your cross hairs on the spot, hit the grunt call and when he looks your way see if you see day light between the tips of his ears and the inside of his antlers if so, drop him.
Posted By: chestnut
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 11:24 AM
Following up on what dgilbert said. The TPWD website is massive and it took me a while to find what he was talking about. It's on page 65 of the 2006-7 Outdoor Annual.
Outdoor Annual
Posted By: OPC Patrick
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 05:11 PM
Boy, this was a good read. I try to make it a habit of reading more and posting less, because of self appointed forum police. You know it is better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. I guess in some way I am joining the peanut gallery. I have noticed that some people are still asking questions about the new rule so therefore this post has merit. Just because you hunt east Texas does not mean you are an east Texas hick. It doesn't even mean you live in east Texas or were born in east Texas. I for one found the statistic to be the point of the post not if the rule was valid. I also know that the statistic came from TP&W and knowing that not everyone has a friend working for TP&W, OPC thought he could share the info. All that being said I have hunted with Bucket and OPC, I am not sure smack talk is the smartest tactic to use, as these boys can carry 200+# hogs out of the woods and don't even break a sweat. To say they are big is an understatement.
As far as the rule goes I like the rule however I have shot maybe one deer larger that the new limit. So my practices are going to change. I guess a lot of peoples will. Don't like it then get involved. (which was the other point in this post)
Patrick
Posted By: SaginawHunter
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 05:16 PM
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I am not sure smack talk is the smartest tactic to use, as these boys can carry 200+# hogs out of the woods and don't even break a sweat.
I'll put a couple of Young county hunters up against them anytime.
Posted By: OPC Patrick
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 06:21 PM
I'm glad I saw the smileys on your post... I was starting to think they were going to have to cash a check I wrote on their accounts.
Patrick
Posted By: HunterTed
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 06:30 PM
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I am not sure smack talk is the smartest tactic to use, as these boys can carry 200+# hogs out of the woods and don't even break a sweat.
I'll put a couple of Young county hunters up against them anytime.
I think we have done that a time or two ain't we pardner.
Posted By: HunterTed
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 06:36 PM
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I am not sure smack talk is the smartest tactic to use, as these boys can carry 200+# hogs out of the woods and don't even break a sweat.
I'll put a couple of Young county hunters up against them anytime.
I think we have done that a time or two ain't we pardner.
Plus if Bucket would step up to a big boy caliber instead of that .222 he wouldn't have to chase those wounded piggies so deep into the woods and have to haul em out that far. LMAO 
Posted By: Big Orn
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 07:10 PM
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Well!!!!!
I am glad to see your rapier wit and humor gracing the screen again. 
Decided to crawl out of the woodwork ands squelch rumors of your demise.
Glad to see you posting Ron.
It's been hard to get the time, but I do sneak a peek now and then.
Looks like you got a lot of spears and daggers flung at ya for no reason this time... Generally takes a lot more heat for that to happen.
I'm just waiting for the regulator gods to tell me what body width and height to shoot next time. Do this - don't do that...and the sheeple will fall right in. 
Posted By: SaginawHunter
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 08:49 PM
Posted By: OPC Patrick
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/28/06 08:49 PM
Never before has 13 inches been such a great divide. Maybe TP&W should start a web forum to allow people to voice there opinions since so few attend meetings then complain about the results.
come on saturday morning.
Posted By: HunterTed
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 09/29/06 04:42 PM
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I recon we have brother I recon we have
they don't run far when I shoot em with YOUR 45/70 do they????????????
Posted By: Bucket
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 10/03/06 12:56 AM
If shooting a larger caliber makes you feel like a big boy, great. I own larger calibers, but it's sure fun to drop those pigs with that 50 grain softpoint - in the ear. Hey, if you can't shoot well, you may need a "big boy' caliber... but that's another fun topic.
BTW, most of my shots are 50 yards or less, since I set up similar to how I bow hunt. I have killed pigs and deer - 1 shot - at over 100 yards, but it's fun getting close to the game.
Good luck to all this season.
Posted By: Hoytman
Re: Did anyone hear this.[13in rule]? - 10/11/06 11:17 AM
GUYS I LIVE IN EAST TEXAS. NORTH OF SULPHER SPRINGS TO BE EXACT AND HAVE A FEW DEER AND IM HAPPY ABOUT THE NEW RULES IM SURE WILL GET BIGGER BUCKS AROUND THE HOUSE. THE ONLY THING I HATE IS MY 11YR OLD DAUGHTER WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO KILL A SPIKE OR 13INCH SPREAD DEER. THEY NEED TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE KIDS IF WE ARE KEEP OUR SPORT ALIVE"