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$30 a bottle buck lure

Posted By: Texas Dan

$30 a bottle buck lure - 07/10/22 08:56 PM

This is the time of the year when you find new hunting products appearing in magazines and on store shelves. Something I noticed in my favorite magazine is "a premium new line of Micro Brew Craft Scents". The MSPR for Trapper John's Ultimate Buck Lure is just $29.99. Hopefully, those $7 bottles of Tink's 69 will still be available to us po folks.

Trapper John's Ultimate Buck Lure
Posted By: maximum

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/10/22 10:05 PM

Most people use way too much scent when they use it
A bottle should last a very long time
A deer doesn't need an ounce of pee to catch the scent
Posted By: don k

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/10/22 10:17 PM

The more it costs the better it is.
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/10/22 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by don k
The more it costs the better it is.


Why of course.
Posted By: Jimbo1

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 12:13 AM

Recently paid $5.99 for a bottle of coon pizz at Academy and I thought that was outrageous!
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 12:18 AM

Amazing how many catchy marketing keywords they were able to incorporate onto a single small label. Secret, Ultimate, Super Premium, Highly Attractive, High Performance, Complex, Magnum. Can't believe they left out Ultra. Must be too many copyrights on that one already. Can't wait to see a hunting show host use all those keywords in a sentence when promoting the product during a filmed hunt. Commercialization of hunting has gotten ridiculous. juggle

They might want to fix the description though. "Let the coyotes come to you using the Wildlife Research Center Trapper John’s Ultimate Buck Lure 4 Oz Bottle". Although I bet it would make a good coyote lure.
Posted By: maximum

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Recently paid $5.99 for a bottle of coon pizz at Academy and I thought that was outrageous!


$3.99 buys you 4 fluid ounces of racoon kidney waste from RP Outdoors trapping supply just across in
Louisiana. $19.99 buys a half a gallon if you're a big time pee aficionado

Last time I bought doe urine, it was on clearance for 25 cents for a package of the 2 brown glass bottles.
That's been 6-8 years ago
Posted By: TCM3

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Amazing how many catchy marketing keywords they were able to incorporate onto a single small label. Secret, Ultimate, Super Premium, Highly Attractive, High Performance, Complex, Magnum. Can't believe they left out Ultra. Must be too many copyrights on that one already. Can't wait to see a hunting show host use all those keywords in a sentence when promoting the product during a filmed hunt. Commercialization of hunting has gotten ridiculous. juggle

They might want to fix the description though. "Let the coyotes come to you using the Wildlife Research Center Trapper John’s Ultimate Buck Lure 4 Oz Bottle". Although I bet it would make a good coyote lure.

they forgot Deluxe as well.
However, i would say Tinks 69 has worked well for me, but i have no evidence to prove it.... just game pictures hammer
Posted By: ntxtrapper

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 02:24 AM

I shoot a doe in heat and just use a syringe.
Posted By: COKEMAN

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Amazing how many catchy marketing keywords they were able to incorporate onto a single small label. Secret, Ultimate, Super Premium, Highly Attractive, High Performance, Complex, Magnum. Can't believe they left out Ultra. Must be too many copyrights on that one already. Can't wait to see a hunting show host use all those keywords in a sentence when promoting the product during a filmed hunt. Commercialization of hunting has gotten ridiculous. juggle

They might want to fix the description though. "Let the coyotes come to you using the Wildlife Research Center Trapper John’s Ultimate Buck Lure 4 Oz Bottle". Although I bet it would make a good coyote lure.


They'll add "Ultra" to the next special limited edition release. For the late season, hard to fool, discerning buck who demands the finest in doe piss. Trapper John's ULTRA Secret, Ultimate, Super Premium, Highly Attractive, High Performance, Complex, Magnum. Only $49.99 for a limited time.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 04:49 AM

I think I remember years ago a texas wildlife biologist did a study that indicated human pee worked just as well in mock scrapes as deer pee. So if I drink a six pack of Michelob Ultra first would that make it Ultra pee?
Posted By: kry226

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 10:54 AM

I've never had any luck with scents and haven't used any in probably 15 or 20 years. Certainly not crazy about paying out the wazoo for it either. Hard pass.
Posted By: fishbait

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 11:25 AM

I'm a real believe in scents...I use Tinks 69 for years. I use very little at a time...one drop. I keep older bucks around my blind year around. I use the scent from September to March.
Posted By: don k

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by fishbait
I'm a real believe in scents...I use Tinks 69 for years. I use very little at a time...one drop. I keep older bucks around my blind year around. I use the scent from September to March.

I do the same with Indian Corn.
Posted By: fishbait

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 11:47 AM

I'm not sure I even know what Indian Corn is...my guess is it the colored corn? Where do ya get this corn and how much do I expect to pay. I will try it just for grins. The regular corn I use will keep bucks around until the does come in then they move around ..using Tinks they may leave for a day or so but normally they come right back.
Posted By: Hudbone

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 11:55 AM

Daddy always said they could bottle horse pizz and if the right people hawked it, others would line up to buy it.
Posted By: ntxtrapper

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 12:16 PM

I can make a coyote put its paw on a tiny little pan with just a few drops of the right lure. No bait at all just an eye dropper of lure. Take a piss on a bedded steel trap and see how that works out.
Posted By: angus1956

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 12:36 PM

Using Code Blue Doe Estrous I have pictures of bucks with their noses touching the scent wick.
That's the only one I use.
Posted By: Espy

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Recently paid $5.99 for a bottle of coon pizz at Academy and I thought that was outrageous!


That’s not a bad price. It’s really hard to train a coon to pee in them little bottles.
Posted By: JimBridger

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 02:55 PM

I just bought 10 bottles of Tink’s#69 in 1 oz. Glass bottles on clearance at Walmart for $1.00 a bottle.
Posted By: Jimbo1

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Pappybear
I just bought 10 bottles of Tink’s#69 in 1 oz. Glass bottles on clearance at Walmart for $1.00 a bottle.

You're knee deep in urine!
Posted By: psycho0819

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by fishbait
I'm not sure I even know what Indian Corn is...my guess is it the colored corn? Where do ya get this corn and how much do I expect to pay. I will try it just for grins. The regular corn I use will keep bucks around until the does come in then they move around ..using Tinks they may leave for a day or so but normally they come right back.


Indian Corn is an inside joke among the longer term board members here. It's been a running gag-line for over a decade. I believe you can search the two words and go back to the old threads if you care to dig deep enough.

As for all of these miracle deer attractants, their number one purpose is to separate hunters from their money, and the more of those catch-words they use the more successful they are.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 05:49 PM

eek2
https://www.lehighvalleyoutdoorsbyn...an-urine-based-deer-scent-and-attractive

"To make any of the attractants the hunter merely needs to urinate in the bottle then add the neutralizing powder which treats 16 fluid ounces of human urine. Once the powder has stopped fizzing, the urine is neutralized and the Enhancer/Modifier is added to provide the desired scent. The two ingredients neutralizes and converts human urine into effective deer attractants and cover scents by first targeting and destroying the uric acid that causes odor. "
Posted By: unclebubba

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by fishbait
I'm not sure I even know what Indian Corn is...my guess is it the colored corn? Where do ya get this corn and how much do I expect to pay. I will try it just for grins. The regular corn I use will keep bucks around until the does come in then they move around ..using Tinks they may leave for a day or so but normally they come right back.

Most local feed stores can order it, but I've never seen it in stock. Call ahead and have them order some. You can thank me later!
Posted By: JimBridger

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by Pappybear
I just bought 10 bottles of Tink’s#69 in 1 oz. Glass bottles on clearance at Walmart for $1.00 a bottle.

You're knee deep in urine!

Only if you have short shins😁
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by psycho0819
Indian Corn is an inside joke among the longer term board members here. It's been a running gag-line for over a decade. I believe you can search the two words and go back to the old threads if you care to dig deep enough.


Others might view them more as the longer-term youngsters who frequent these forums.
Posted By: GusWayne

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/11/22 11:17 PM

Sounds like a bargain lol

Nothing beats, good area and time in stand

And time beats all, just gotta see him once...
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/12/22 12:40 PM

I do believe scents have some level of effectiveness because I've had too many hunters report good results using them. Just like using lures when fishing, their effectiveness seems to depend greatly on the mood of the deer who detects them, and how much human scent in also present at the time. For that reason, I've always placed scents where deer are more likely to detect the scent before they smell me. I'm not a believer in using cover scents because I suspect a deer's nose is good enough to differentiate scents, much like we do in differentiating what we see.
Posted By: fishbait

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/12/22 05:15 PM

I believe that experience in using some scents helps.. with little or no experience how to apply them, they may not work as well as years of using the same scent. Little knowledge goes a long way. My first scent (attractant) was anise oil(licorice smell)added to corn..works great for deer and fish...until I couldn't find the concentrated oil any more. My next corn additive was jello powder...also works great but a lot of trouble. Then some time later just settled on the Tinks 69. Now, that's all I use. Over the many years I have found different ways for the application.... some worked ok....some not as well. Patience always pays off in the long run.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/12/22 10:31 PM

I could not find online the actual Texas study that used human urine in scrapes, but I did find an article on it.

https://www.themeateater.com/wired-...-or-deer-urine-does-it-make-a-difference

"The scientific community got involved in 1998 when Texas researchers Ben Koerth and James Kroll at Stephen F. Austin State University tested how deer responded to mock scrapes treated with four unique scents: no scent, human urine, estrous-doe urine, and rutting-buck urine. Deer visited all the scrapes, but bucks paid more visits to scrapes treated with either human urine or rutting-buck urine."

"Koerth and Kroll expanded that study in 1999 to include six mock scrapes and untreated natural scrapes. Starting October 26, they applied three substances to different mock scrapes: rutting-buck urine, estrous-doe urine, and “new-car” scent, a spray bought from an automotive store. Deer “readily visited” all of the scrapes, mock and untreated. Based on the deer’s reactions at the scrapes, Koerth and Kroll concluded they were merely curious about the scents, and that the scents elicited little or no sexual attraction."
Posted By: LanceH

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/13/22 12:29 PM

The problem I have with using scents is they get all over everything. I tried them a few years ago. The smell would get on your hands. And then where do you put it? How do you store it while hunting and between hunts?
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/13/22 04:59 PM

Did a little price checking this morning while browsing at my local Academy. At $24.99 for a 4oz bottle, the new Trapper John's Ultimate Buck Lure isn't such a bad deal when you consider a 1oz bottle of Code Blue will set you back $12.99. Of course, this assumes the two products work equally well.
Posted By: JimBridger

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/13/22 08:36 PM

I’ve used a drag rag dipped in Tinks69 successfully during the rut in archery season. I’ll generally start dragging the rag when I get within 100-150yds or so from my stand. As I get closer I aim for a place about 20 yds up wind of the stand where I set a canister with cotton balls that have been treated with an eye dropper of Tinks69. I’ve shot several bucks over the years following my trail with their nose to the ground grunting the entire time they are on the trail. They usually stop at he canister for a good whiff.
I use rubber gloves when handling the rag and canisters. I store the drag rag in a 35 mm film canister and wrap the string around the canister. I keep them in a heavy zip lock sandwich bag while heading out to my stand and keep them stored in a snap lock Tupperware type container when not in use.
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/13/22 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Pappybear
I’ve used a drag rag dipped in Tinks69 successfully during the rut in archery season. I’ll generally start dragging the rag when I get within 100-150yds or so from my stand. As I get closer I aim for a place about 20 yds up wind of the stand where I set a canister with cotton balls that have been treated with an eye dropper of Tinks69. I’ve shot several bucks over the years following my trail with their nose to the ground grunting the entire time they are on the trail. They usually stop at he canister for a good whiff.
I use rubber gloves when handling the rag and canisters. I store the drag rag in a 35 mm film canister and wrap the string around the canister. I keep them in a heavy zip lock sandwich bag while heading out to my stand and keep them stored in a snap lock Tupperware type container when not in use.


Knew a guy who shot a deer that he said was trailing his dad who walked past his stand about 30 minutes earlier with a drag rag tied to one of his boots.
Posted By: 8skate

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/13/22 10:05 PM

Vanilla Extract is the best.
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/13/22 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by 8skate
Vanilla Extract is the best.


I'm in the boat with those who say anything that appears out of the norm to an older and more experienced deer will make them wary or even become spooked. If they haven't smelled it lately, they tend to avoid it.

Which is why I've known old timers who would put a smelly shirt in their stand weeks or even months before the season opener. By the time the season rolls around, the deer have become accustomed to their smell.
Posted By: fishbait

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/15/22 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by fishbait
I believe that experience in using some scents helps.. with little or no experience how to apply them, they may not work as well as years of using the same scent. Little knowledge goes a long way. My first scent (attractant) was anise oil(licorice smell)added to corn..works great for deer and fish...until I couldn't find the concentrated oil any more. My next corn additive was jello powder...also works great but a lot of trouble. Then some time later just settled on the Tinks 69. Now, that's all I use. Over the many years I have found different ways for the application.... some worked ok....some not as well. Patience always pays off in the long run.
Posted By: fishbait

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 07/15/22 12:02 PM

Want to add ....that with tinks 69 the visiting bucks made a new scrapes under the same scent pads. Last year I had 10 scrapes around my blind, if I remember correctly. Other bucks visited the same sites and scraped the ground also. This kind of action proves to me Tinks 69 works real good. This is my experience with Tinks NOT a commercial.LOL
Posted By: Ranch Dawg

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 08/01/22 04:23 AM

I just piss on the scrapes around my blinds and watch the bucks get “ pissed off “. 😁
Posted By: TurkeyHunter

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 08/01/22 05:45 AM

There’s a lot of successful lures that lure hunters to buy them.
Posted By: COKEMAN

Re: $30 a bottle buck lure - 08/02/22 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ranch Dawg
I just piss on the scrapes around my blinds and watch the bucks get “ pissed off “. 😁


They do get upset, don't they? I remember a hunt where I thought for sure I shot a doe. Had to pee, so I got down right away and pissed in the road behind my stand since I figured I was done. Found my arrow and I somehow missed that deer. Climbed back up and shortly after I got settled a buck came down that road and found my puddle. That dude huffed and puffed, snorted, grunted, scraped the ground, stomped his feet, everything but climb up the tree to get me. Never seen a deer so mad before. Not real sure what I ate that day, but I should have bottled it and sold it. Since then I pee in the scrapes in my area. Haven't seen another one get so mad, but I see them on camera tearing it up. Maybe I should see a doctor.
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