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Bullet fragment in ground venison

Posted By: bottlerocket

Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 01:33 AM

I've only been hunting for 7 or so years now and always hunted the same land and used the same processor.

Well tonight my wife made some shells and cheese with the ground venison and while we were all eating, she found a piece of lead about the size of a tick in the food.

Doing some searching online, I didnt see much about if there is any risk of lead poisoning. Is it worth it to just toss the meat and find a new processor, or is this a more common issue?

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Posted By: Herbie Hancock

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 01:41 AM

I don't know much about lead poisoning, though we do eat dove and spit out shot on a yearly basis.

But this is where the this why I process my own will let you know this is why they process their own. I process my own deer and also drop deer off at a processor, it all just depends what I plan to use the deer for. I would chalk it up as an accident, as they do happen. Every once in awhile I fine some bone fragments in the meat I process, all though a lot less I will find a some fragments in the deer I get processed. Though a bullet fragment is a new one for me.

I think finding a new processor is a little extreme, especially if this is the first time it happened. If it were to keep happening the of course I'd consider moving on.
Posted By: bottlerocket

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Herbie Hancock
I don't know much about lead poisoning, though we do eat dove and spit out shot on a yearly basis.

But this is where the this why I process my own will let you know this is why they process their own. I process my own deer and also drop deer off at a processor, it all just depends what I plan to use the deer for. I would chalk it up as an accident, as they do happen. Every once in awhile I fine some bone fragments in the meat I process, all though a lot less I will find a some fragments in the deer I get processed. Though a bullet fragment is a new one for me.

I think finding a new processor is a little extreme, especially if this is the first time it happened. If it were to keep happening the of course I'd consider moving on.


Thanks for the input. I've never tried bow hunting, but this nudges me in that direction. Or maybe just switching to an all copper round with less fragments.
Posted By: Catperch

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 01:50 AM

This happened to me once. I process all my deer. Not sure what or how it happened. I was processing a doe tonight and was just thinking about this. It doesn't really bother me and if I were you, I definitely would not throw it out. Of course, I'm not an expert on lead poisoning.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by bottlerocket
Doing some searching online, I didnt see much about if there is any risk of lead poisoning. Is it worth it to just toss the meat and find a new processor, or is this a more common issue?


No reason to toss the meat, would be pretty silly and wasteful to do that....... or be worried about lead poisoning from a shot animal. I have bit down on probably thousands of lead pinch weights fishing, and spit out a bunch of lead BB's from dove & quail over the years....and handled an awful lot of lead weights in the tire & wheel business. Was exposed to lead daily. Nothing to worry about.

I would also recommend processing your own, but that's a different subject.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 04:50 PM

Law of averages says you're going to get a piece every now and then. It's not a big deal. There isn't much your processor can do about it, there's no reason to dump him.
Posted By: hook_n_line

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 04:55 PM

I found a piece of copper in some ground venison once. Never used them again since I made a headshot. It should have been clean meat so I assume i didn't get just the deer I shot back.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by hook_n_line
I found a piece of copper in some ground venison once. Never used them again since I made a headshot. It should have been clean meat so I assume i didn't get just the deer I shot back.


You likely did the right thing and 99% of the time I'd agree with you. However, I did shoot a doe in the head a couple of years ago and when I went to clean her there was a couple of drops of blood on the upper front edge of her shoulder. When I skinned her out, I figured out that a bullet fragment went down her neck and out her shoulder. Bullets can do weird things sometimes.
Posted By: unclebubba

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted by hook_n_line
I found a piece of copper in some ground venison once. Never used them again since I made a headshot. It should have been clean meat so I assume i didn't get just the deer I shot back.


You likely did the right thing and 99% of the time I'd agree with you. However, I did shoot a doe in the head a couple of years ago and when I went to clean her there was a couple of drops of blood on the upper front edge of her shoulder. When I skinned her out, I figured out that a bullet fragment went down her neck and out her shoulder. Bullets can do weird things sometimes.

I processed a Buck for my MIL once and my grinder started making a funny noise. I opened up the grinder and found a fired .45 slug (FMJ from a .45 ACP). There was no visible wound when I was processing, and I surmised that he had been shot by it at one point and lived. The wound healed with the bullet inside of him and ended up in one of the chunks of meat that I cut up for grinding.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by unclebubba
Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted by hook_n_line
I found a piece of copper in some ground venison once. Never used them again since I made a headshot. It should have been clean meat so I assume i didn't get just the deer I shot back.


You likely did the right thing and 99% of the time I'd agree with you. However, I did shoot a doe in the head a couple of years ago and when I went to clean her there was a couple of drops of blood on the upper front edge of her shoulder. When I skinned her out, I figured out that a bullet fragment went down her neck and out her shoulder. Bullets can do weird things sometimes.

I processed a Buck for my MIL once and my grinder started making a funny noise. I opened up the grinder and found a fired .45 slug (FMJ from a .45 ACP). There was no visible wound when I was processing, and I surmised that he had been shot by it at one point and lived. The wound healed with the bullet inside of him and ended up in one of the chunks of meat that I cut up for grinding.


up I've see that happen too-we pulled some old buckshot out of one, you could see the bumps under the hide.
Posted By: COFF (TFF)

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted by hook_n_line
I found a piece of copper in some ground venison once. Never used them again since I made a headshot. It should have been clean meat so I assume i didn't get just the deer I shot back.


You likely did the right thing and 99% of the time I'd agree with you. However, I did shoot a doe in the head a couple of years ago and when I went to clean her there was a couple of drops of blood on the upper front edge of her shoulder. When I skinned her out, I figured out that a bullet fragment went down her neck and out her shoulder. Bullets can do weird things sometimes.

My son shot a buck opening weekend. Broadside shot right through the vitals. When processing the meat, I found his .243 bullet lodged in of one of the rear quarters. I'm thinking it must have bounced off the inside shoulder blade.

I think when we drop off meat at a processor we have an expectation that we are going to get that same animal back, but not sure how realistic that expectation is. Especially for stuff that goes through the grinder. What would make you really scratch you head is if you shot your deer with a bow and then found lead in the meat.
Posted By: Elkivory2

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 06:00 PM

Depending on the processor, you may not get only your meat back, especially if you are getting some type of sausage made. A lot of the sausage spice mixes comes in packs made for 5, 10, or more pounds. If you are having trimmings made into sausage, you could end up with a mixed batch where other hunter's deer is mixed in to make the weight correct for the spice packets. I know for a fact some processers do that and that is why I bought my own grinder and process my animals myself.
Posted By: Hudbone

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by bottlerocket
Doing some searching online, I didnt see much about if there is any risk of lead poisoning. Is it worth it to just toss the meat and find a new processor, or is this a more common issue?


No reason to toss the meat, would be pretty silly and wasteful to do that....... or be worried about lead poisoning from a shot animal. I have bit down on probably thousands of lead pinch weights fishing, and spit out a bunch of lead BB's from dove & quail over the years....and handled an awful lot of lead weights in the tire & wheel business. Was exposed to lead daily. Nothing to worry about.

I would also recommend processing your own, but that's a different subject.





Hope for more so you can be like Skinner.
Posted By: hook_n_line

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted by hook_n_line
I found a piece of copper in some ground venison once. Never used them again since I made a headshot. It should have been clean meat so I assume i didn't get just the deer I shot back.


You likely did the right thing and 99% of the time I'd agree with you. However, I did shoot a doe in the head a couple of years ago and when I went to clean her there was a couple of drops of blood on the upper front edge of her shoulder. When I skinned her out, I figured out that a bullet fragment went down her neck and out her shoulder. Bullets can do weird things sometimes.


Could be but I got her in the the left ear hole as she was feeding broadside,
Posted By: 4Weight

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 06:51 PM

It happens. Move on.
Posted By: Hudbone

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 06:52 PM

Yep, we used to say we found a toenail.
Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/19/21 11:24 PM

In over 70 years of eating venison I have never had any lead in any.
Posted By: drycreek3189

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 01:02 AM

I’m thinking that in 60 years of eating ducks, quail, doves, and squirrels I must have swallowed a shot or three. I know I’ve found plenty. I’ve also found scraps of copper and lead in processed meat. I’m 74 and ain’t dead yet !
Posted By: bjh

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 01:21 AM

Well it is easy to know if you swallowed some !!!! When you drop a deuce it will rattle!!!!
Posted By: Jimbo

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 02:04 PM

Your deer could have been wounded slightly in it's earlier life.
I shot a deer and found a completely healed and encased broadhead inside the shoulder.
Lead fragments is nothing to worry about other than maybe cracking a tooth!
This is why people process their own meat, as it gives you more control over what you put in your mouth.
Posted By: Hudbone

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 02:09 PM

Found while processing. Not staged.

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Posted By: stxranchman

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 02:09 PM

I've been carrying around a #7 shot in the end of my nose for the last 47 yrs now.
Posted By: oldoak2000

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 02:22 PM

any bits like that will pass through your system unabsorbed/insoluble with no worries, just like birdshot would.
I’d enjoy every bit of that meat without a second thought -
Posted By: kmon11

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 02:39 PM

I have been eating wild game most of my life and almost all shot with bullets or shot containing lead including waterfowl until the mandatory steel regulations, with my health issues in the past I have been tested for lead in my system a few times and it is always on the low end of normal.
Posted By: Catperch

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by stxranchman
I've been carrying around a #7 shot in the end of my nose for the last 47 yrs now.

If it weren't for the being shot part, I'd like to be able to tell people that!!!
Posted By: Jimbo

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 04:41 PM

Everything I hear is climate change will kill you before eating a tiny piece of lead! eeks333
Posted By: TCM3

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/20/21 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by bottlerocket
I've only been hunting for 7 or so years now and always hunted the same land and used the same processor.

Well tonight my wife made some shells and cheese with the ground venison and while we were all eating, she found a piece of lead about the size of a tick in the food.

Doing some searching online, I didnt see much about if there is any risk of lead poisoning. Is it worth it to just toss the meat and find a new processor, or is this a more common issue?

Might be dangerous if you pass gas.......... flush rifle
Posted By: SherpaPhil

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/21/21 06:06 AM

Metallic lead isn't particularly dangerous to humans. Very little is absorbed as it passes through the digestive tract. Inhaling it, or ingesting certain lead compounds is what causes problems.

I rocess my own game and have pulled several fragments out while cleaning, but never made it to the final product.
Posted By: GNTX

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 11/21/21 05:41 PM

You can buy a small handheld metal detector that will pick up anything like that in your meat. I already have such a thing since I do metal detecting also (dirt fishing).
Posted By: bjh

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 12/04/21 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by stxranchman
I've been carrying around a #7 shot in the end of my nose for the last 47 yrs now.


Right there with you ,got 3 #8 bird shot in my left jaw. Doctor who looked at me in hospital started laughing when i told him what happened. He said you are not a real quail hunter till you have at least one , he said mine is in my right jaw!!!
Posted By: RLoving1

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 12/04/21 07:24 PM

Just a little lead...eat and enjoy. You take game to processor and it comes back as burger or sausage you are getting weight back not "your" meat. If they have more than one head of game to process they just bulk grind after they weight customers amount to return. Think they are going to shut down and clean equipment between customers? Have a complete deer as sausage or burger then you are getting someone else's trimmings in there to! Risk we take with some processers. Few years ago (excess of 25) my dad had killed a rag horn elk and took it to so-called reputable processer here in Odessa. When he went to pick it up a employee brought out a 24"x24" box with meat. My dad took it out to truck expecting to come back for the rest, employee told him that all there is! After promising a country a$$ whipping to owner few more boxes seem to be found! Processer always sold unclaimed meat for processing fee after season...short enough people through season and sell that meat and there is a profit to be had!
Posted By: Bucks auto

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 12/06/21 05:16 AM

I was a meat cutter when I was in late teens and early 20s y’all would be shocked what you find in USDA inspected beef needles bullets thorns are not common but I found these so not to worry. Lots more led in the dove and quail
Posted By: Jimbo

Re: Bullet fragment in ground venison - 12/06/21 05:38 AM

I worked as a meat cutter in a government commissary where we cut primal cuts into steaks from USDA inspected beef.
A couple of times during my tenure there I was cutting steaks on the band saw and the blade would sing out as I hit an object in the meat.
Twice the object turned out to be buckshot.
We would condemn the entire box and contact the inspectors and the company and continue on.
The point is, it's going to happen with animals that roam the countryside.
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