Texas Hunting Forum

Rattling - Success or Non-Success

Posted By: DQ Kid

Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 01:51 PM

Had a successful rattling experience this past Saturday morning out at my small place in Young county, cycling the Knight and Hale Pack Rack with the occasional Growl grunt call. Within 10 minutes, I had a nice, high horned 3.0-4.0 yo 10pt. come running in looking for the fight. My success rate on my place has been pretty good over the 8 years or so that I've owned the place, maybe 30-50% successful bringing in a decent size buck. Prior to having this, I hunted 35-40 years in deep South Texas, Webb/Zapata county lines and rattling for us down there was not nearly as successful, not that it was necessarily required to see deer and lots of them. I believe my Young county doe-buck ratio to be 2-1 or so whereas when we hunted South Texas more like 4-1. Taking into account time of year, the rut and what not, do you think the lower doe-buck ratio is the main variable for success, at least in my particular situation?
Posted By: redchevy

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 02:01 PM

Im sure the ratio has something to do with it.

I have tried rattling a few times every year on our place in Duval Co. and only thing I ever had come in was a yearling doe. Seems like I never get around to it on time though and usually too late in the season and its usually windy as hell, I need to make more time for it.
Posted By: Erathkid

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 02:53 PM

Yes. It works here too. Although spotty, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Buck doe ratios definitely come into play.
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 02:54 PM

timing is the key..... a tight BD ratio helps..... weather conditions........ I've had tons of success rattling all over the state.....

In Duval Co. and south, there is almost no such thing as too late in the season........ as in the season will end before rattling will be ineffective.....
Posted By: PoppinPiggies

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 02:56 PM

I also use the Knight and Hale Pack Rack with pretty good success. I'm the only one on our ranch in Clay County to have a "shooter buck" in bow range in the last 2 years and that was after a rattling sequence. I'd say I've probably rattled at least 8 bucks in with rattling this year but the majority of them are youngsters. We also have a very high buck to doe ratio of 2:1 that is probably helping with the effectiveness. I also rattled in a pretty decent buck last year in Throckmorton county but only ever had bucks respond to it twice in probably 8 or so sits there and the other was a spike. I think rattling is a useful tool but it also takes luck like any other part of hunting. Time of the year, realistic rattling sequence, volume, and having an interested buck in earshot all play a huge part. I've noticed that my rattling doesn't seem to hurt much at least, I've rattled with does in the distance and they will normally just look in my direction then go back to eating, now if they are at the feeder and I'm 20 yards away they run lol. But I say go for it, theres not much to lose by trying. I've never incorporated vocal calls like grunts and snort wheezes but am hoping to add that to my repertoire next season. I bet the ratio in your situation has a lot to do with it, if there are plenty of ladies for everyone why fight?
Posted By: Jimbo

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 02:57 PM

I've rattled in bucks several times so I know it works, but I still prefer to sit quietly and let things develop naturally.
That said, I'll break them out when I start getting bored.
I've found that if something is going to happen, it won't take buck a few hits with the horns, so you have to be ready and watch downwind, with that said, my favorite rattling spot is where I can sit wind in my face or quartering, with my back to a field, so nothing can sneak up behind me.
Those younger bucks and some does will come charging in, but an old buck will try to circle around and come in from downwind of the ruckus, so you need to be in a more open area.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 03:21 PM

Rattled in 6 bucks in two hours the other day in the hill country.

Wind was bad and they were catching my scent but one came charging in before I could pick up my rifle he took off


I don’t do it a lot anymore but I’ve always had good luck with rattling
Posted By: sunsetroosters

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 03:33 PM

How long do you guys actually rattle for?
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by sunsetroosters
How long do you guys actually rattle for?


each location is about a 30-45 minutes set up to finish..... but that is not actual rattling... I can usually get 4-6 location in a morning less I start at day break and will go as long as the conditions are favorable but usually shut it down around 10am. When Im rattling that is how I've committed to hunt for that outing.... don't usually mix stand hunting and rattling..... but if I do it is usually done in the evenings....
Posted By: PoppinPiggies

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 04:13 PM

I usually just rattle for about 30-45 seconds every 45 min or so, not sure if thats the best tactic but my thought process is if bucks are covering country looking for does then I wait a while between rattling sequences to see if any new bucks are traveling through the area that weren't there the previous times I rattled. I've rarely had a buck come in on my first sequence its normally like my 3rd or 4th. The first time I rattle I do it quietly so as not to scare off a buck if there is already one really close. Only been doing it for a few years but it's been working for me. I've always wanted to try the run and gun type of rattling like SingleShot85 but feel like that would be hard to do since I primarily bow hunt deer.
Posted By: GusWayne

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 04:30 PM

For the life of me I’ve had 0 success rattling.

Idk why, I always do it the rut. Rattle, wait 15 min, hit them again

I’d say I’ve done this several times a year for the last 3-4 years

It’s just never worked for me
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by PoppinPiggies
I've always wanted to try the run and gun type of rattling like SingleShot85 but feel like that would be hard to do since I primarily bow hunt deer.


you need a pardner to rattle for you, that would be the easiest, but it can be done most of the time I see movement before they are in shooting range that's when you set the hons down and grab your bow. Also if you some tarsal glands from another buck set them down wind and where you want to take you best shot and this will draw the deer to that spot... BOOM or loose your arrow....

Rattling isn't random and you can control some variables some of the time. so you do, hen let the chips fall as the will but it does increase you chances dramatically. If you try to rattle in a wide open area you're likely going to have a longer shot but you'll see them sooner.... if you get in tight cover the buck will be up your azz w/o warning.....

I like a cold overcast day, 4-7mph wind, 20-40yrd opening, I sit in cover on the up wind side.... now deer will come in from behind you but will circle around to get a better sent.... that is where the tarsal gland or cotton ball / buck urine helps
Posted By: Las Colinas Hunter

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 05:23 PM

i always seem to rattle in the young bucks. I had 3 come crashing in - all split horns.
Posted By: Roll-Tide

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 05:25 PM

Nothing. I’m pretty sure I scare them away.
Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 05:33 PM

It depends if I am in an open area, in open areas I might as well leave them home. I have better luck if I am in an area where there is a lot of cover.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 05:48 PM

I’m not a pro by any stretch, but I rattle for 20-30 seconds then wait 5-7 min then repeat. Maybe rattle for 45 seconds. If nothing and I feel I’m in a good spot I’ll wait 10 min then move.


Most of the bucks I’ve rattled up came within 2 min of me hitting the horns.

A lot of them come running to me.
Posted By: FamousAmos

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 05:50 PM

Last week rattling was productive in the hill country.
Posted By: Jimbo

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 05:57 PM

Usually the deer will not be scared off unless you are right next to them when you start a sequence and startle them.
They will either ignore them or come to look out of curiosity, or come charging in.
Next time you have a few deer out in front of you where they can't see your movement, hit them a couple of times and see their reaction.
The sound of horns clashing is a natural sound to them.
Posted By: Capt.JVH

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 07:21 PM

I love rattling. I have had really good success with it at my place in Lampasas county and a spot I used to hunt in Nueces County. I find it to be a lot of fun when the timing is right and really boring when it's not.
Posted By: Txduckman

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 09:24 PM

I rattled in a coyote last week.
Posted By: Mr. T.

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 09:40 PM

I've posted this before, BUT, I'm posting it again:
I have rattled in way over 1,000 bucks.Those were all in southwest Texas. I hit the horns together for about one minute, wait a minute and then hit them again for a minute, wait a minute and hit them for a 3rd time for a minute, but this time not as loud. stay very still and Wait for 5 more minutes and then move to another spot if nothing comes in. Did not think it would work anywhere but south texas however:
This is a very long story, but I'm going to make it short. My wife and I have been hunting for the last 3 days south of Eastland. Only seen 1 doe and a 4 pt and 6 pt. We hunt together in the same stand. At 8:30 this morning she said, "I can't hold it any longer. I have to potty." She climbed down but said, give me those horns, I'm going to try to rattle." She has never done that before. She potted right under our stand, and I thought, "good grief, you have got to be kidding me, this hunt is over for sure." She started hitting the horns together. With-in 30 seconds, I saw a buck running at full speed across a field about 300 yards away. It headed straight for her and stopped about 10 yards away. But she was looking the other way and did not see the buck and because of the trees I could not get a shot. She stood up and started climbing back up the ladder to the stand when I leaned out and said, "sit back down and hit them again." The buck had circled to get down wind of her but when she hit the horns again, it stepped out at about 60 yards. The rest is history as they say. But I have to say, what a great memory we will have together for the rest of our lives. It was the biggest buck that we have seen on our place. As I have said on here many times before, I love my wife. A little more after today!!!!!!!!!




Attached picture Tommy's buck 2016.jpg
Posted By: kmon11

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 09:41 PM

I have rattled in quite a few and killed some while just watching others. I have as much or more success with grunts and bleats. Several of my biggest bucks have been shot at less than 30 yards after grunt call and or bleat.
Posted By: Bbear

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 10:06 PM

I was on a lease in Llano county for over 20 years. For the first 15 years our B-d ratio was around 1 buck for every 9 does. When we finally started managing the herd, we took a bunch of does off and eventually got it down to 1-3. When I first read about rattling, I tried it when the ratio was all out of whack. Never had something come in. When the ration got down lower, everyone that tried it would get something to come in. As far as I know, only one of our hunters got something worth shooting to come in.
I hunted in Missouri and tried it there. It worked. Got a nice 5 yo 10 there with my bow. Tried it in Indiana on some private land and had middlin' success. Nothing big, but, I did get a few small bucks to show up.
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/20/18 10:14 PM

Yes I rattle because it works if you know what you’re doing. One of the the most exciting opportunities you can create for you or someone else hunting. Phase of the rut and buck doe ratio are the biggest influence on success IME.
Posted By: GusWayne

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/21/18 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Yes I rattle because it works if you know what you’re doing. One of the the most exciting opportunities you can create for you or someone else hunting. Phase of the rut and buck doe ratio are the biggest influence on success IME.



Can you enlighten us on the correct way to rattle?
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/21/18 01:50 AM

Here is a reply I gave several years ago on how I rattle. I learned by trial and error. I found out what worked for me did not always work for the next guy on a different ranch or lease. IME, the week or so prior to peak of the rut and then the week or so after the peak of the rut was the best times to rattle. Seeing deer up and moving is also been the most important key IME for success. What I have seen most people do is being to timid with rattling at first, lack aggressiveness and length of the rattling sequence. About 12-14 days ago now I rattled 5 bucks in over an hour period on a morning where it was humid, muggy and 76 deg with fog. I have rattled bucks in with all kinds of weather but I prefer a 40's day with light wind, mist and overcast. My favorite set of rattling horns are 30 yrs old now and show the use. They still give that "smoke" smell from friction when I rattle with them. I hate to change but may try to find me a new set this next spring. I will add this if a buck holds up just out of range or you can not get a good look at him the snort wheeze at him. Be ready cause they will start jumping over brush or cactus to get in your lap. up
Originally Posted by stxranchman
Rattling is all about timing and using the right amount or "type" of rattling at the right time. Bucks react differently to rattling depending on the stage of the rut. For me the best time is the week before the peak of the rut. Then about a few days after the peak. You need a decent buck to do ratio but can you can still rattle in bucks no matter what the ratio is. They all react different to how aggressive they come into rattling. Some will sneak in, some will charge in, some will only move when you rattle and then stop when you stop and some will trot in slowly being while others might be very cautious. For me I will rattle if I see bucks up and moving or "cruising" checking new territory or for does. If two bucks are fighting they are not playing but trying to kill each other so don't be timid with your rattling if they are moving in quickly. Some fights last a long time while others are only a few seconds. Other times they move in slowly and it might take 7 or 10 or 15 or even 30 minutes to appear. Many older bucks will stall out if you have other younger bucks in close if your timing(for the rut) is off just a bit. Best to rattle in pairs with the rattler separated from the shooter. Use the wind to your advantage knowing bucks will try to circle downwind from you. So put some open cover downwind if possible to give you the opportunity to see them first. When they are moving in quickly or aggressively there is no better hunting experience than to rattle in 8-12 bucks in a few short minutes. Picking you location to rattle is almost as important as the timing. I prefer real antlers for rattling but fake or synthetic ones will work. Don't over rattle by rattling aggressively and to much to early. Don't be timid or shy with your rattling either, experiment and remember what worked or did not work along with the timing as to the rut. I have rattled with does in front of me and they only lifted their heads to see what the commotion was then went back to feeding. It is all about timing and adjusting how you rattle with what the deer are doing. I have rattled from a blind with success but the most success was to get into a travel corridor or feed/food plot or travel area close to a buck bedding area. Weather is important also, cold/drizzly/misty days with temps in the upper 30's to mid 40's was always my favorite. The less wind the better, so the sound carries. You will be amazed at how a buck can pinpoint your exact spot just from a rattle or two. I always use a grunt tube when rattling also. Just remember you are imitating a fight and how aggressive the fight will be is the time of the year. So don't be afraid to rattle and make some noise. To bucks fighting are noisy and running over or into brush, trees limbs or rocks. If what you are doing does not work in one location does not mean it won't work 1/4 mile away in a different location.
Posted By: DQ Kid

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/21/18 01:53 AM

I will share my rattling that has worked. I start with some pack rack, at first I lightly meet them and start to vary the intensity during each set of 30-45 seconds. I will bring them together loudly, moderately and even lighter during the sets. I will grind them and lock them turning hard, less hard, always varying the intensity. Next, I follow it with 4-5 loud and fast grunts based on deer grunting I have heard before. After a 15-30 second pause, I continue this process again for 15-30 minutes or until l bring a buck out.
Posted By: richard-ssv

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/21/18 01:54 AM

I rattled off a hog and then a shooter buck came in 20 mins later, does that count?

I have two feeders in view from my blind, one is 100 yards away to the north down in a valley and the other is 75 yards away to the west on the same ridge where my blind sits. I had a young buck on my feeder down in the valley and a hog on my feeder up on the ridge at the same time.

I didn’t want to shoot the hog because I didn’t want to scare off the buck, so I rattled some horns. The hog took off, but the buck didn’t even flinch. About 20 mins after the hog left a shooter 10 point came to the feeder where the hog was and I took him.

Don’t think I can claim that I rattled a buck in, but had I not rattled the hog off the buck would have never come. So yes, I’m a fan of rattling.
Posted By: ctonsmitty

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/21/18 01:58 AM

get some new horns would be my suggestion

rattling works at least some of the time
Posted By: huntingbig8

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/21/18 05:58 PM

rattling has been unbelievable the last week in Throckmorton City, we have several days where we got 10-20 bucks over the course of a day including 19 this morning. I rattle aggressively and have never used a grunt tube or made a grunting noise once in 30 years of rattling. I don't kick brush and I don't stomp around, whatever were doing it works good.
Posted By: Txduckman

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/21/18 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by huntingbig8
rattling has been unbelievable the last week in Throckmorton City, we have several days where we got 10-20 bucks over the course of a day including 19 this morning. I rattle aggressively and have never used a grunt tube or made a grunting noise once in 30 years of rattling. I don't kick brush and I don't stomp around, whatever were doing it works good.


How big of ranch and are you hunting from the ground moving around?
Posted By: huntingbig8

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/25/18 07:22 PM

Sorry TXduckman, been gone a lot and haven't stopped to look at the forum, I'm hunting about 700 acres of mostly open country on a big ranch near Throckmorton, then my family farm near Caddo that is 200 acres and 1 small place near PK that is 54 acres. We have rattled deer on all of the places this year, I only rattle for short intense sessions this time of year and move on, it's the rut, You can be aggressive. WE hit a spot for 10-15 minutes then move, I don't hardly ever hunt from a stand unless it just to glass. It's been a great year with a very intense rut and lots of bucks running hard, good days to stay out all day, Weather looks perfect to spend all day tomorrow out glassing and rattling.
Posted By: JMalin

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/26/18 01:44 AM

I like to rattle in the tail end of the rut when most of the does have been bred and competition for those last few does gets stiff. I hunt in a relatively high density area. Buck doe ratios are pretty tight, but with so many deer, I feel the bucks will shy away from it somewhat early. Cover ground and if possible, have a partner. When the timing is right, the bucks will come running. No need to set up in a particular spot for an extended amount of time.
Posted By: Txduckman

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/26/18 03:23 AM

Good info. up
Posted By: snake pliskin

Re: Rattling - Success or Non-Success - 11/26/18 09:28 PM

Broke out the rattlin horns last weekend. Started at first light and had 6 different bucks come into 4 different locations. Unfortunately none were keepers as they were all young. I thought I was going to have to kill the last one to protect my partner that was doin the rattling as he was coming in right at him! Give me that kind of hunting any day over sitting in a stand. Problem is that there are 5 of us on our section and when everyone is there its just not safe or fair for the others to do it. Only had one spot that did not produce a buck.... that we saw anyway. Next year I will go during the middle of the week when I can be by myself. Will need to get a bipod for the #1 so I can be ready when they come in.
© 2024 Texas Hunting Forum