Who has killed a Booner?

How many folks here have a book deer? Dont give a rat's arse bout any pen raised deer. I want to see how many guys here have a legit book deer. Entered or not. I have 3 P&Y deer hanging on my wall but havent been lucky enough to break the Booner line. I have been lucky enough to see 2 book deer on the hoof. One in 2011 in Pike County, IL as he would have been well over 200" and I saw one driving down the road in Kansas last year...Bad thing is, I saw him 2 days in a row in the same spot. He was somewhere around the 190" mark, typical.

So, when and where did you shoot it?

I don't think I have even seen one that would be a legit booner, as in not behind a fence etc.

I would if I coulda let mine grown another year.

I haven't ever seen one either. Biggest I've seen is a 164" 11 point, that still haunts he today. I missed and another lease member got him a week later, that was way back in 1997.

I have only seen one B&C deer free range - was in high school and he was in the bar ditch with a doe. Small town and I knew everyone who lived in the area. Not one ever saw him that I know of.

Have a muley that meets awards minimum, grossed for all-time, but the G2s killed him. Still waiting on the WT and have my eye on one that may get the job done if he can manage to stay under a rock.

So people can tell a BC Score on the Hoof
That's impressive...Have had several killed on our place but never connected..Like Stompy said, hard to swallow but Happy for the guys on our place that did

I have been lucky enough to go to different places around Texas and see some obvious Booners but I don't have the $$$ to take one home or a friend that nice...LOL....

hoping to this year, also, this thread is worthless without pics.

The 1 I saw in Illinois was obviously a booner, no doubt he would have went over 200". Words cant describe how massive this deer was. I saw him 2 days in a row in the same spot from my stand. He was on the neighbors property about 100 yards away. Between the 2 times I saw him, I got to watch him for about 10 minutes total. The one I saw last year in KS would have been borderline but he was huge. I would have been proud of him on my wall!

Ditto...on both

Yes Sir, we have some Dandys on our Kentucky place ...was you Bow Hunting him

170 the cut off for B&C?

I've seen a few that would have grossed over 170". Maybe a handful

All high fence but native genetics. One was on a ranch where no one had stepped foot in in 5 years

Next year!!!

165 typical

Hope you didn't use that as your birthday wish.

watched these two for a few years and ended up having hunters take both on the same night.. not sure what NT books is but the bigger one was 181 and the typical was 167.. prolly wouldn't actually make it with deductions... he was missing about 8 inches of tine when he was shot also

That's not all time thsts just the awards correct?

I'm not a fan of the net score rules I believe if the deer grew it it should count symmetry be damned

Here are the minimums, B.

http://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_minimums.asp?area=bgRecords

Oh and this one 174

If 165 typical is the min then I may have seen one.

its 170" net for the all time

a 165" deer is still a big deer


People nowadays look at a 170" buck as being somewhat mediocre but you have to remember when the minimums were founded the set that as a RECORD, not something easily achieved. I know guys with big low fence ranches that will pass up 170" bucks to get a 190" or 200" but a 170" whitetail is a giant deer, any way you cut it

Yep, and they pass them up bc they're not behind every bush.

Typical 165 net makes book

Yup, sure was. The one in KS I would have needed that Dodge tag as I saw him on the side of the road!

Boone and Crockett? Last time I looked, it took a 170" to make the "all time" B&C book

I have been lucky to get onto many ranches and I quite a few book deer dead on the wall or from sheds picked up from LF ranches. Lot of ranches kill those deer and never made it public. I saw 5 bucks from low 170's gross to 208 gross in the back of one pickup headed to the taxi. All from one LF ranch in South Texas. I found a set of typical 6x6 sheds that would have probable been a book deer depending on spread and the length of a broken G5 when I found them. I was with the LO when he rushed his shot and missed him. Was on a lease north of Jayton that had a 5x5 killed opening day that could have grossed/netted book depending how long a broken browtine and G2 that were fresh. Seen a couple of 8 points taken LF that netted upper 160's that were mounted. One from Mexico and other from South Texas.

Put the Makers down 170 to make the alltime book and net 160 to make the awards.

170 net all time low fence only.

This one is in the book.

Several 170 net deer?

I have not had him officially scored just yet but he is close to gross 182". I am assuming he will be non typical. He will Net close to the mark. 2014 bow kill from Missouri

2014 rifle kill. Gross 175". I believe he will net in the upper 150's and may just miss it by a few points. I plan on having him scored too.

That is a beautiful buck your dad killed.

Book is net not gross though. Net is what keeps 1000's of deer out. Book is based on symmetry not gross.

Notice I made this statement and that I have not had them officially scored. I stated they would be close. Bow Kill will be closer than the rifle I believe but he is hard to score.

On a typical you will have to gross his typical frame only then deduct side to side symmetry then deduct the total NT inches off of that. That keeps so many bucks out of the book. NT have it a bit better in that they take the typical frame then deduct side to side symmetry and then add in the NT total inches, but they have to get to 195 net to make book. That 175 gross will really depend on how they score that forked or common base G2-G3 on his right beam. Those 3 base points is what will hurt him also. That is why I like gross over net.
The NT will the double mainbeam will not net very well as a Typical with that extra beam. He will net typical less than the buck you killed in the next pic IMO. NT wise he will net a bit better than the other buck.
Netting the typical frame first then taking off or adding in the NT for final net tyical or NT score is what really takes away from a buck IMO.

The bow kill IMO won't be closer to a net book score than the rifle. Symmetry really hurts him. His gross might be better.

You very well may be correct. All I have put a tape on is gross. Guessing on the net but plan on having them scored.

Stx I was also referring to pope and young and not b&C. I guess he asked about booner and then stated book deer.

Seen some really big deer that lost a lot on the net.
I have seen on NT(WT) with only 10 points total that netted 198 and change NT. He was a mainframe 4x4-8 point with matching double drops. At that time he was the largest NT with the fewest points in the book. His 8 point typical frame netted just over 180 and was very symmetrical.

Plug your numbers into the B&C calculator form...it'll be reasonably close on net.

P&Y is 125 net on typical and 155 NT IIRC. So the bow kill will be closer to the 155 net NT. Both are still great bucks no matter what they score

Saw one 14pt that was about as perfectly symmetrical as you could get. Unfortunately nobody ever shot him, though I tried like heck. Water came up and pushed them out of where they hung out on the back side of the preserve they were on. The 10pt that was his running buddy got shot eventually. That 14pt made that 190" 10 look small in comparison. Carried the same time length, wider and just had those huge sweeping beams that spaced out its tines. Like to have had a heart attach when the spotting scope panned across him and he was laid up in the shade of a pivot.

Yes sir. This is what I had in my mind all along. I guess I just wasn't being clear and plus it was a hard day at work and I have had a few cold ones.

Thank you sir, truly an impressive deer, especially in person.

IIRC, the MF was 183", gross was 189 7/8, net was 173". Very few deductions on MF, but had almost 7" of trash on the base. Funny, if he had broke those off, he would have only had around 3" of deductions and would have scored 7" higher

Wow 3" of deducts on his MF typical was great on a buck that big.

Old German ..... They have an awards book also...therefor 165 typical net goes in to the B&C BOOK

"Trophies that meet the Awards minimum but not the All-Time minimum will be listed in the Awards book"

One of my All Time Favorite Deer.....Travis I'm not even gonna comment on your Deer
Kidding Sir..How Cool

173 4/8" Net. Public land on the Tennessee side of Fort Campbell. 1.5" sticker at the left base hurt.

Think you kinda missed the Jest of my point Sir, 90% of the average Joes couldn't get within the Score of a Book Deer at just a glance..and a few could, wasnt directed at the ones that can and are capable amigo

Seen a few on the hoof, held a couple in my hands, killed not a damn one.

Thought that number was 160"?

On the old ranch think it's 4 that netted all time and 2 or three that netted awards. Not bad for the 12 years that I had it. 3 of those I passed up previous years. With two that broke 200 gross

In panhandle we have one makes all time but haven't gotten very close in a long time though.

Yes which means a 165 makes book too

Great buck and on public no less Makes it even more impressive of an accomplishment to me.

I have a pic of that monster 8 taken in Kansas off public somewhere. Will post it later if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger A.B.

I just take pictures and feed

Welcome to my world

I've even euro'd them

With two shot out of my stand a day or two before I got there.

Thank you, sir. Definitely a strike of lightning.

My buddy sent me a pic of a monster Kansas roadkill last year and I'm sure it made the rounds. Would almost certainly make book.

And then some if its that mAinframe 12 or 14. Deer had well over 40" just mass

Was that your Deer KRY, Congrats Man...seen some Toads come out of the "Land between the Lakes" in Tenn

I think a lot people would be surprised at the numbers killed in Texas that never are mentioned in public. I know of 16 NT or Typical LF from last year that netted book with another that missed it by 1/8"(not sure if that one was after or before drying period) that were listed as killed with scores.

Bet 2-1 or 3-1 easy taken vs entered. Lots of studs that people are tight lipped about.

I know of 2 off of one ranch that netted book that will probably be entered not in that total.

I don't blame anyone for not entering them. None of ours where entered and three of them where officially measured and we thought better of it. Poaching was already bad enough

Very impressive deer. Congrats

I've never even gotten close. But, I did see several during my time hunting the King that would have made it. Heart stoppers.

Killed one and have seen a few more, just couldn't get it done. Got several years of hunting left though, Lord willing.

Not sure if we're talking about the same buck. This one looks to be a mainframe 10.





It's mine, Scooter. Very blessed to say the least. This buck was taken about 20 miles east of LBL just off a drop zone on Fort Campbell. But I watch LBL almost every year for the studs that come out of there. And I've never seen a place like Fort Campbell either. That whole area is plumb eat up with stud bucks.





Thanks, gents. This guy grossed 178 6/8 but only dressed 165 lbs.

Got one back in 1991. Free range in Mexico. Netted just a little over 196 non typical

I know this isn't a monster, but it was to me for my first bow kill a few years ago out of East Texas. Any ideas on score? His brows are 6" for reference.

That's a straight up stud. Never seen a Mexico deer with that much mass. Impressive

Kry- that's a different deer. Stud non the less

The one I'm talking about is either a straight up 12 or 14.

You talking about that little guy you killed a few back

I keep thinking you are going to one up him

I killed a book deer in Mexico that grossed 183 1/2 BC and netted 178 7/8 BC. Typical 10 pt.

How wide is that deer?

we need a few more pics sir

Holy brow tines! Awesome buck.

Pics, my man. Pics.

Roger that. Not tracking the one you're talking about then, Bobo.

I killed a 191" Muley in 1983 just north of Chmney Rock, Colorado. I didn't have the money to mount him but I at least have a few photos of him. I've never killed a WT over 140". Baker

I know a lot of ranches that have produced book deer but if you make it public you will be banned from the ranch

Personally if I shot a deer that would net all time Boone and Crockett awards I would not enter it. It would have to a Milo Hansen type buck to get me to raise a stink about it

Would love to see pictures sir!!!

X2 Heck of a deer!!!

I feel the same way.

Only reason I put my moose in P&Y and B&C was because location was not an issue and it helped the guide with his business.

X3.

I hope Curly doesn't see that because it gives him a good argument against me on the AR threads.

I shot this deer 20 plus years ago in SE Colorado. I cannot remember his exact score anymore but it is well into BC. I was to young to care about that stuff back then and have never tired recently to put him in the book.

A moose, sheep or elk would be a bit different

Awesome deer! I have held some ridiculous sheds off of Campbell. There are some spectacular deer out there.

Is he half Long Horn! Look at that width!

What did this deer score? I don't see him scoring way up in BC from that one pic.

Right, Dandy


Could you imagine him on Protein

Thank you, sir.

Stx (or anyone else), just google Fort Campbell mwr trophy room. You'll see what he's talking about. Hard for me to post a link from where I am right now.

I got this one -low fence . Scored 200 4/8" . I did not send it in though . Cook county 2008 .

Wow

Congrats Sir

Wish I had taken pictures. This was Spring of '01, had a buddy that was stationed there. Not sure where those sheds ended up going since he was sent to the sandbox a year later.

awesome

studd!!

That's an impressive deer and frame.. Awesome seeing a deer hit 200 inch with it being that symmetrical.. Stud typical

Wow texfork!!

He has a little bit of everything doesnt he

Wouldn't that be 4 inches larger than the Texas state typical record?

Yelp the two 200" from our place each where heavy NT inches. I'm a frame type guys so I get excite over a typical frame that big... It's just very rare!!

It would be but I think this buck is gross score 200" or net 200" NT. State Record Typical is 196 4/8" net.

Saskatchewan, 2012, 179 2/8 net


And since FoxTrot said DEER, not WHITETAIL, here is a book blacktail from Humboldt Co. California, 2008, 138 1/8 net:


A caribou is also a deer. Central Canada Barren Ground Caribou, Humpy Lake, NWT, 372 6/8 net, 1998:


An elk is technically a deer as well. Rocky Mnt Elk, Navajo Co. AZ, 1991 385 net:


This Sitka Blacktail fell less than a point short. Kodiak Island 1992.

This mule deer scores high enough, but since it was taken off Santa Rosa Island, B&C doesn't consider the animal "free range" even though the island is unfenced and 90 sq miles. California, 2007, 198 net:


I also have a bison, muskox, and grizzly in the all-time B&C book. I've been a truly lucky hunter.

great animals dawaba

Dawaba for the win!

2009 Low Fence - Gross 201 5/8 Net 197 6/8 In the all time book as Non Typical

Another breath taker!

It's truly sickening what they did to the deer herd at Santa rosa island

Turns my stomach

Some straight up studs in this bunch.

. Awesome animals. No luck involved.

Lots of tine length but missing some points and pt. length I think. Not sure I see much more than 140 or so at least from that picture.

Dandy,
Body is impressive also on him

Like that mount

Shot in Wheeler County. Low Fence.

171 3/8"

I see the panhandle boys are showing up.

My dads free range Canada buck. It grossed I believe 206 and netted in the 190's typical. My uncle is in the pic with the deer. A little over 30" inside spread and the body was giant.

eeks indeed

Unbelievable.

Wow!!! Very impressive.

That there is a brahma bull with deer horns!

That Buck has my Neck

Very Nice

Awesome thread.

This is the thread that I imagined. And yes I said deer...I want to see them all!!!

My 190 class Alberta Mule Deer 2006.

A friends 210 class Alberta Mule Deer taken 2006.

A friends 230 class Alberta Mule deer taken 2007.

My 180 class Alberta Mule Deer taken 2007.

My 180 class Trans Pecos Mule Deer taken in 2010.

A friends 180 class Trans Pecos Mule Deer taken in 2006.

A friend 180 class Trans Pecos Mule Deer taken in 2013.

awesome bucks stx.

j

Here you go!

Here's a buddy's deer... it's the one from the story a few pages back that got pushed out by flooding.



a 180s buck 2014



a buck that nets for awards 2014



A 215 grossing deer, typical frame makes cut for awards, takes more to get in as NT.



Here's an all-time typical on the hoof... dang, that deer was symmetrical. Still mad about that one, I'll get over it when the visual of it walking across a sage flat he could've been shot in gets out of my head.





barely deducted out of all-time...

That is one pretty deer.

Thank you sir!

i love the "witness protection program" pics STX graces us with...and awesome animals from everyone

I was thinking walrus!

Red Stag - Took him in New Zealand a few years ago - scored 551 and was number three in the world for SCI for some years. Sits above our fireplace

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I actually had this Booner at 131 yards off of a lease road this past year. But I was already tagged out. My buddy hunted him hard but never seen him.

Holy cow - I can't imagine seeing that deer and not being able to pull the trigger cause I shot out - very nice buck

Y'all making me feel low,,been hunting for over 40 years and have never seen a book anything. Got some respectable WT, MD, Elk and Antelope but nothing book. Maybe this is the year, going on a high powered MD hunt in Colorado where some books are killed pretty regularly.

What unit?

keep this thread going! need more pics!

keep after it - it only takes one

This. But you gotta go where the big boys are too, and put in lots of time. Best of luck to you, sir.

Stud! Congrats!

I was lucky enough to get drawn this year in Colorado Unit 137, in the SE part of the state near Kim. Private ranch country... It'll be a 190-class, or bust.

I was wondering what you had decided to do.

I can't take credit for this beast, but I did help quarter him!

Official score of 11 2/8
3 2/8" spread
2" of main beams
6" of mass

2006 Sonora, MX. 213" gross, 205" net typical. My buck of several lifetimes...


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That's as sweet a Mule Deer as it gets. Big congrats. Thanks for posting it.

And to the forum.

Thank you sir! Right place, right time with that buck.

Man I would like a 200 inch mulie - gone couple of times but no luck - I guess Sonora is the best bet?

That's a beauty, did you shoot that one Lotto?

Great thread!

Cool thread and some very impressive deer. I shot one that missed the all time by 3 inches in 2010. 172 gross, 167 net typical.

my wife... oh wait you said Booner nevermind